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Applebees Appetizer posted:WW2 nerds itt I love it. I’ve always been intrigued about the Bizmark and the Yamato. Both of them falling way short of expectations, both interesting stories. To be quite fair the Iowa-class never did much in WW2 either. By the time they entered service, it was already clear that the age of naval direct fire gunnery was done, and they mostly spent their time as carrier escorts.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:people love talkin bout guns and armor but Fire Control Wins Battles It's cool man, people who name cars also get sad when robots get destroyed.
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KillHour posted:"The RS." If you're not pronouncing this "The Arse" it's a missed opportunity I call my truck The Dumpster usually and I called my bricknose The Ferd but the only car that got a name besides its make or model was the Viberator. Well, the E21 has a few different names depending on how I feel about it at a given time but nothing's completely stuck yet.
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Despite being an ardent pacifist and strongly against personal gun ownership of anything semi automatic, I love the machinery and tactics of war. Especially in conflicts where technology outpaced military tactics and vice versa KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Most of this is kind of post-facto nonsense. The problem with the AAA suite on German warships, in particular the Bismarck, was that it was poo poo, not that the Swordfish somehow cleverly escaped the engagement envelope in a way no other plane could. Huh, I learned that back when the History Channel was wall to wall WWII shows and it made enough sense that I never really questioned it, the more you know Is there any truth to the canvas skin not detonating antiaircraft shells? Because that one seems more legitimate than the targeting issues KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I don't fully understand anthropomorphizing machinery Humans will become emotionally attached to machines, seeing human characteristics in those machines isn't much of a stretch
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I don't fully understand anthropomorphizing machinery https://imgur.com/gallery/QNrvo         
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May 8, 2019 19:00
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toplitzin posted:The Bismarck is a he. Clearly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aofoBrFNdg 
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May 8, 2019 19:22
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I named my Honda Fit "Lisa" because it's motor code was L15A. 1337 H4x0r etc.
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May 8, 2019 19:42
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If anyone has big guns then I’m gonna have big guns. I hate politics they can all burn in hell but if your government has firepower you better have the same. I am no nut and I am pro-police but have you seen some of these jokers? Anyways my kids went to their moms and I am full on depressed now that I have done all maintenance possible on vehicles before my rising sun vans get here, I think I am going full irresponsible and driving to the beach like now.
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May 8, 2019 20:01
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everdave posted:If anyone has big guns then I'm gonna have big guns. I hate politics they can all burn in hell but if your government has firepower you better have the same. I am no nut and I am pro-police but have you seen some of these jokers? A Stryker isn't going to be stopped by any guns you can ever get though, government's guns are always bigger.
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May 8, 2019 20:14
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everdave posted:If anyone has big guns then I’m gonna have big guns. I hate politics they can all burn in hell but if your government has firepower you better have the same. I am no nut and I am pro-police but have you seen some of these jokers? Sorry dude there are no easy solutions for MQ9 or Apache firing a Hellfire into your living room.
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everdave posted:If anyone has big guns then I’m gonna have big guns. I hate politics they can all burn in hell but if your government has firepower you better have the same. I am no nut and I am pro-police but have you seen some of these jokers? We regret to inform you that you are, in fact, a nut.
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May 8, 2019 20:35
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KillHour posted:We regret to inform you that you are, in fact, a nut. I'm pretty sure ED knows he is a nut.
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May 8, 2019 20:37
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I've been thinking about getting armed lately, but for slightly different reasons. Got a new perspective on the world and it looks a little scarier, you know? Hoo boy sticker shock though. Gonna be a bit.
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May 8, 2019 20:41
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Was anti-gun, joined the military because I hated guns (listen, broke brains don't make sense), now I have a gun. Kinda want to sell it though, would rather have the money. Think they're neat but not for me anymore.
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May 8, 2019 20:45
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Fender Anarchist posted:Hoo boy sticker shock though. Queen Combat posted:Kinda want to sell it though, would rather have the money. I found a solution!
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May 8, 2019 20:47
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I like how gun dork's response to the government periodically loving them up isn't "the the government shouldn't have millions of heavily armed drones", but "i need a concealed handgun to defend myself from the drones"
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i like guns, grew up with guns, then moved to city and sold them because i didn't have anywhere to shoot if you are thinking that you are somehow gonna protect yourself or your family or your property with a gun you are almost certainly kidding yourself
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The average American stating they need guns to overthrow the government just reminds me of the back end of Saving Private Ryan where the town's getting overrun, everything's gone to poo poo, Matt Damon is curled up in a ball and Tom Hanks is shot up slumped against a wall just plinking his handgun as a tank rolls relentlessly towards him... I mean feel free to try but please be livestreaming if you do.
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Applebees Appetizer posted:Lol you torque down the valve cover? I don’t torque a lot of poo poo guess I probably should tho Powershift posted:You can really gently caress up stamped steel pans and covers by going full ape. I sometimes have trouble determining ape level, so torque wrench. I have successfully distorted stamped steel rocker covers in the past, and I'm not keen on doing it again, or cracking the newer plastic and aluminum stuff. Suburban Dad posted:HF torque wrenches are decent for the money. Techs at work said they brought some to the snap on guy to test to see how well they were calibrated and were pretty spot on, they were surprised. I had to warranty one that must have stripped internally, and got another one no questions asked. I have a 3/8" and 1/2" and probably should get a 1/4" for aforementioned bike stuff. Not all of mine have names, but the '70 Cutlass is Snoopy Coupe (previous owner named it - he digs Snoopy - and I kept it) and the RX-7 is FrankenRex. For obvious reasons. The wife's Kia is Sparkle for the bright blue metallic paint. The Crown Vic is... The Crown Vic, The CV, or The Vic. The Cutlass' name let me put this on the trunk:  Olds fans will get it. The Prong Song posted:It's cool man, people who name cars also get sad when robots get destroyed. Or die on Mars after *years* of faithful service. <sob> Queen Combat posted:Was anti-gun, joined the military because I hated guns (listen, broke brains don't make sense), now I have a gun. Kinda want to sell it though, would rather have the money. Fun to shoot targets, but I don't feel the need to carry or anything. I live in TX and am probably one of a handful of people without a carry license. I intend to get one, just because, but I'm in no hurry to be in that particular database, I guess. I only have the one small 9mm pistol, and a shotgun. 'Course my dad has all the guns I would ever want - mostly rifles though, since he hunts. Even if you aren't going to own a gun, I think you should learn to shoot, how they work, etc. It may not help if faced with a handgun, but then again, it might. Uncertain times and all. Most ranges will rent guns. edit: I forgot. The Corolla is "The Shitbox."
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I'm from the country, and I have a shotgun, a rifle, and 4wd...and I will survive. By giving them whatever they want and filling an insurance claim on it.
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Olympic Mathlete posted:The average American stating they need guns to overthrow the government just reminds me of the back end of Saving Private Ryan where the town's getting overrun, everything's gone to poo poo, Matt Damon is curled up in a ball and Tom Hanks is shot up slumped against a wall just plinking his handgun as a tank rolls relentlessly towards him... Except now the occupying force can drop high explosives on top of you from a weapons platform that puts none of their personnel in the slightest form of risk and can fly above effective small arms range. Yup, a bunch of open-carry advocates and their tacticool AR-15s are the only thing standing between us and tyranny...
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Fender Anarchist posted:I've been thinking about getting armed lately, but for slightly different reasons. Got a new perspective on the world and it looks a little scarier, you know? The TFR deals thread is a good place to keep an eye on https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2914751 I think S&W runs decent deals on the M&P line periodically. They're mostly on topic, and the side chatter is often entertaining, as the thread title suggests. A good friend in Philly got her PA license and firearm for... exactly the same reasons you're thinking about. She's fairly active as a rights activist, and helps educate and train folks in similar circumstances. Parts of Philly are not great for non-cis people. 
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Anyone happen to see the Chinese sci-fi film Wandering Earth? Apparently it's on Netflix now.
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a bunch of cool cars are being destroyed as we speak https://www.wtae.com/article/crews-battling-4-alarm-fire-at-commercial-building-in-etna/27409474
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Check out this odometer from 1991
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Olympic Mathlete posted:The average American stating they need guns to overthrow the government... Guns are cool, I would like to own several.
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InitialDave posted:I think ours is at the stage where we should carefully consider if this is a principle we should be mocking. Much like the ~Jeep Lifestyle~, gun ownership carries with it a lot of baggage. I like guns, I think they are cool and neat in the same way I like Jeeps or airplanes or trains. But to try to divorce yourself from gun autism is impossible. And it still doesn't change the fact that the military has military hardware and you can muster as many AR-15s as you want but you aren't stopping a drone strike with them.
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KakerMix posted:And it still doesn't change the fact that the military has military hardware and you can muster as many AR-15s as you want but you aren't stopping a drone strike with them. But I can stop zombies with them Until I run out of ammo anyways 
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Everyone keeps saying drones and tanks, but even the ballistic plates worn by grunts will stop most conventional rounds, and higher end riot gear protects against most pistol calibers The US military has spent the better part of 2 decades in guerrilla conflicts, imagining that you'll win an engagement, let alone a war against them is naive at best
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The Door Frame posted:Everyone keeps saying drones and tanks, but even the ballistic plates worn by grunts will stop most conventional rounds, and higher end riot gear protects against most pistol calibers Yeah but it's easier to point to the more exotic military hardware (lol that drones are exotic) to highlight the argument of protecting yourself from the government as being a very out of date idea. Worked in the 1880s but we the people have lost that edge a long, long time ago.
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I own a handgun but don't really want it anymore and should sell it. I haven't shot it in the entire time I've owned it and the household will probably be safer without it honestly. Kids, etc.
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Yeah it's kind of like how the United States' modern military totally pacified Afghanistan and the Taliban are now gone
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I think I own more broken guns than working ones. I have a Remington 870 I got when I was 10 and it's a fun little shotgun. I also have a Glock 23 I bought in college for personal protection that more than paid for itself in attempted robberies and I like it. Everything else I inherited from my dad who mostly inherited them from other family members. Black powder rifles are pretty fun I guess. I think my .270 is probably my favorite thing because I can use it to put holes in stuff that you can't see without binoculars. Just fuckin' lol if you think you need guns 'because terrorists' though. Suburban Dad posted:I own a handgun but don't really want it anymore and should sell it. I haven't shot it in the entire time I've owned it and the household will probably be safer without it honestly. Kids, etc. Responsible parental gun ownership doesn't seem impossible though. I have a little girl and don't have any plans to get rid of the guns. When she is old enough to figure out how to open a door then I'm gonna spend all the ammo with the exception of a few shells for the shotgun and some .40 for the Glock. The gun safe is bolted to the concrete foundation, in the basement in a locked room. The ammo safe is hidden elsewhere. Not even my wife has the combo to either. It's in my last will and testament so she can at least clean it out when I die.
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MomJeans420 posted:Yeah it's kind of like how the United States' modern military totally pacified Afghanistan and the Taliban are now gone being on the Taliban side of that scale continues to transcendentally suck
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KakerMix posted:Much like the ~Jeep Lifestyle~, gun ownership carries with it a lot of baggage. I like guns, I think they are cool and neat in the same way I like Jeeps or airplanes or trains. But to try to divorce yourself from gun autism is impossible. And it still doesn't change the fact that the military has military hardware and you can muster as many AR-15s as you want but you aren't stopping a drone strike with them. KakerMix posted:Yeah but it's easier to point to the more exotic military hardware (lol that drones are exotic) to highlight the argument of protecting yourself from the government as being a very out of date idea. Worked in the 1880s but we the people have lost that edge a long, long time ago. ilkhan fucked around with this message at 02:24 on May 9, 2019 |
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ilkhan posted:Not gonna wade deep into this, as I've done it before and I'm tired of the stupidity it elicits, but this attitude ignores vast swaths of military history, the relative strengths of guerilla action, and the last 15 years of the Iraq war. A civil war in the US between the left and the right would be incredibly bloody and bad for all involved. But it would be far worse for the unarmed and urban populations than the armed and rural portions. The US government turning on it's own people isn't going to be a good time for the latte sipping liberal or the survivalist right winger, both of their lifestyles are going to be shattered. Hunters out in the woods aren't going to stop the US Military though, they've got APCs and rockets and poo poo.
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All this sort of hypothetical wankery is why I got out of guns. I like them a lot, but every time I went into a gun store or even the ammo counter elsewhere all I got was some racist nonsense. There's only so much racism I can tolerate, and there is no place in the gun community that it isn't present.
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QuarkMartial posted:All this sort of hypothetical wankery is why I got out of guns. Hypothetical indeed. The idea of a bloody left vs right civil war is pretty lol, I wonder how exactly that would even work
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QuarkMartial posted:All this sort of hypothetical wankery is why I got out of guns. I like them a lot, but every time I went into a gun store or even the ammo counter elsewhere all I got was some racist nonsense. There's only so much racism I can tolerate, and there is no place in the gun community that it isn't present. Wanna go to a gun store and have a nice chat about the engineering qualities about bolt action rifles without the politcal trashfire that burns eternal at every single Florida one I've been to. Likewise I wanna go to a grocery store and have a nice chat about quality breads without the social trashfire that burns eternal there about glutens and GMOs and whatever the gently caress else everyone gets extreme about. Applebees Appetizer posted:Hypothetical indeed. The idea of a bloody left vs right civil war is pretty lol, I wonder how exactly that would even work It wouldn't, most people shouldn't be willing to kill each other over how they vote.
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