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enterprise grade means the vendor's cloud solution is a citrix xenapp farm serving up the same desktop client as the legacy onprem version, but everything is slower. also printer redirection randomly breaks.
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President Beep posted:what’s the opposite of enterprise grade? web scale
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May 7, 2019 18:48
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Fallen Hamprince posted:They Might Be Clients
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May 7, 2019 18:49
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enterprise grade means your account is assigned a technical account manager who cant help with sales issues or support problems or do much of anything except send feedback surveys
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May 7, 2019 18:52
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Enterprise grade means that maintenance and support for hardware rated at 5/9s (99.999% per year) is over $100K a year and must be purchased in 3 year increments. It also means that if you have a bad disk on a disk array, you have them come out to replace it because doing it yourself seems like a waste of $100k per year.
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May 7, 2019 20:03
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Enterprise means getting to learn the difference between “Uptime” and “Availability” and all the beautiful spectrum of graduations between them!
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May 7, 2019 20:06
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Rivethead posted:Enterprise grade means that maintenance and support for hardware rated at 5/9s (99.999% per year) is over $100K a year and must be purchased in 3 year increments. It also means that if you have a bad disk on a disk array, you have them come out to replace it because doing it yourself seems like a waste of $100k per year.
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May 7, 2019 20:06
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I prefer 6/9s 
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May 7, 2019 22:53
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paying for 5 9s, getting 5 9ths
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May 7, 2019 23:22
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FMguru posted:5/9s more like 9/5s
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May 8, 2019 01:18
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enterprise grade means that users have to be local administrators on their workstation to use the front-end client
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May 8, 2019 06:00
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enterprise grade means catastrophic bugs cannot be fixed because at least one multinational company relies on a feature being broken in a specific way
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May 8, 2019 11:44
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enterprise grade means integrating with it is only possible via a 15 year old DLL that transmits data over a socket as delimiter separated records.
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May 8, 2019 15:46
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enterprise lab equipment means transmitting data only via a proprietary serial connection to a windows xp pc, which if you change any part in it will refuse to work seriously if you can never work with lab equipment its where IT goes to purgatory
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May 8, 2019 16:03
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Boiled Water posted:enterprise lab equipment means transmitting data only via a proprietary serial connection to a windows xp pc, which if you change any part in it will refuse to work my post directly above yours was in relation to communicating with a lab lol but it was a site-to-site connection to a lab transmitting toxicology results
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May 8, 2019 16:05
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Boiled Water posted:enterprise lab equipment means transmitting data only via a proprietary serial connection to a windows xp pc, which if you change any part in it will refuse to work lol you had something as new as XP for your proprietary link box 
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May 8, 2019 16:06
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Ciaphas posted:lol you had something as new as XP for your proprietary link box as a trained scientist i've worked with everything from early dos version boxes up until windows 10 machines. I entered university in 2011 and ended in 2016. it really shows how fast computers and computer systems move compared to e.g. spectroscopy. A scientific instrument 20 year old is still practically new. A computer 20 year old is uhh, impressive it's still running in a lab with students and acid and what have you
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May 8, 2019 16:09
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in college for my freshman level chemistry course all our lab equipment only worked with macs running mac os 6 or 8 i forget. (this was only 12-13 years ago)
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May 8, 2019 16:39
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enterprise grade bean?!
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May 8, 2019 16:45
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Boiled Water posted:as a trained scientist i've worked with everything from early dos version boxes up until windows 10 machines. I entered university in 2011 and ended in 2016. this is true except of course it is an indictment of computer tech rather than other equipment.
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May 8, 2019 18:14
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i spoke with my previous head of studies recently who had the choice of shelling out either 25k on a pci-card for a piece of equipment or 50k for a new version of it
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May 8, 2019 20:17
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Boiled Water posted:i spoke with my previous head of studies recently who had the choice of shelling out either 25k on a pci-card for a piece of equipment or 50k for a new version of it wat
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May 8, 2019 20:18
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the wonderful world of scientific equipment
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May 8, 2019 20:24
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*points to dilznick*
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May 8, 2019 20:25
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El_Elegante posted:*points to dilznick* i mean we weren't talking about electron microscopes but ok
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May 8, 2019 21:02
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enterprise grade means catastrophic bugs cannot be fixed because one of the <20 customers is a multinational company who depends on certain features being broken in specific ways
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May 8, 2019 21:10
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when you don't purchase the support contract for your $100,000 piece of equipment and it breaks 8 years later
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May 8, 2019 21:19
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:this is true except of course it is an indictment of computer tech rather than other equipment. it’s probably more do to with the fact that computer technology is insanely cheap compared to other, more specialized equipment so it can be replaced whenever it becomes a hassle to deal with
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May 8, 2019 21:24
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Fallen Hamprince posted:it’s probably more do to with the fact that computer technology is insanely cheap compared to other, more specialized equipment so it can be replaced whenever it becomes a hassle to deal with best example I have of this was an LC-MS where the support contract for IT issues was the instrument manufacturer flying in a dude who took your old pc and replaced it with an identical but working pc. It was great but pretty weird to have them send someone with a hardcase across the atlantic for any issue not solvable with a reboot
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May 8, 2019 21:31
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Boiled Water posted:but you can't because then your specialized equipment will just say "computer? what computer? I mean, in all honesty that’s lovely equipment design? Blah blah blah DSYP but seriously: gently caress that.
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May 8, 2019 23:07
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graph posted:when you don't purchase the support contract for your $100,000 piece of equipment and it breaks 8 years later on the other hand, i could easily see the support contract being expensive enough that even having to replace the $100,000 equipment after eight years means you still come out ahead
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May 8, 2019 23:52
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it means that when I look in the database and see 5 different ways to resolve a performance issue with only minor changes I can't do it because it would break the licensing agreement
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May 9, 2019 00:04
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"please enable flash to view this content "
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May 9, 2019 01:18
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enterprise grade means searches are always case sensitive. you cannot change this
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May 9, 2019 01:39
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jimmyjams posted:enterprise grade means searches are always case sensitive. you cannot change this it means searches are case sensitive if you pass in a search that has mixed caps, case insensitive if all lower case, and only matches against upper case if all caps
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May 9, 2019 02:12
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searches just don't work at all, either returning the full set or the empty set
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May 9, 2019 03:07
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enterprise grade networking means spelling mistakes:
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May 9, 2019 03:52
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Boiled Water posted:as a trained scientist i've worked with everything from early dos version boxes up until windows 10 machines. I entered university in 2011 and ended in 2016. i sell enterprise lims (i swear our product is good, only like a 1/4 of these things apply to it) and holy hell does instrument software make my life a living hell.
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May 9, 2019 04:32
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Fallen Hamprince posted:it’s probably more do to with the fact that computer technology is insanely cheap compared to other, more specialized equipment so it can be replaced whenever it becomes a hassle to deal with sure, that is part of the reason, but the lack of longer-term vision and support is a really big failing on the part of computer technology. this is also only partially driven by market forces, at least as much it has just been ingrained in a lot of people involved in this industry that bit-rot is a real thing, that starting projects over is to be expected, that the old product must be dropped to be able to sell the new one, and in general that everything is very transient. all very harmful and causing a lot of issues, it is just very visibly on display when it comes to a perfectly good piece of scientific or industrial equipment is for some tiny aspect of its task attempted to rely on a computer, and every aspect of that computer is long gone and very hard to work around.
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Like, I don’t disagree that the excessively short lifespan of computer hardware is troubling but if your big sexy expensive lab equipment is outputting data it should output data. It shouldn’t matter what it’s outputting to because it’s using a standard?
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