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1) Hey guys, there's a Warthog lighting up my house, anyone know if I should use 9mm or .45 cal? 2) My cars are named "The M", "the Volv", "the Alt" and "The Miata" KakerMix posted:It wouldn't, most people shouldn't be willing to kill each other over how they vote. Bring on more of the WWII knowledge, that poo poo is awesome.
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Hey! I just did a project on this very thing. Texas concealed carry permit as of 2018 are around 1.2 million issued out of a population of 28ish million. A vast majority of those are issued to people between 50 and 59, with over 80k between 60-80 y o in 2018. You can look up more recent data in the link below! Consider that it's around 5-10% of the electorate that the clowns in the Legislature were pandering to with the passage of open carry. You're in a huge majority of people who don't want to bother with getting licensed for CC, nebulous privacy concerns aside. I can't wait until real, substantiative changes occur to restrict firearms access. I may love a good range day but I'd gladly give it up to reduce the epidemic of handgun and related firearms violence. https://www.dps.texas.gov/rsd/LTC/reports/demoreportscy17.htm Edit: Boomers love guns and whining about firearms access to defend themselves against a world they're unable to adapt to.
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I may be a bit but not a gun but, I am just not comfortable with the idea that whatever brand of dipshit is running the country at the time can tell me I can’t have a gun. Anyways I just got off the road drove 550 miles to the beach because I was sad and depressed. So now I am exhausted sad and depressed yay brain! I should have stayed home.
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May 9, 2019 05:48
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That's a long drive Dave. I'd have a non-alcoholic Becks with you if you didn't drive to the wrong beach!!
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I don’t know what I was thinking doing this ha. Might just go to the beach and head back tomorrow might not. Just hard on my brain when the kids go to their moms plus I got a ton of issues geez. In car news I am pissed at my Hyundai freaking passenger airbag beep anytime I set the drat phone or sunglasses in seat so stupid. And it’s not reading my phone for Car Play but this phone has been messed up so can’t 100% blame car, freaking went 25 miles Out of the way because I missed turn At least this days inn has hardwood floors but it smells like weed in here (not a fan)
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KillHour posted:We regret to inform you that you are, in fact, a nut. Anyone who can look at American policing and come out pro-police is a nut. Powershift posted:I like how gun dork's response to the government periodically loving them up isn't "the the government shouldn't have millions of heavily armed drones", but "i need a concealed handgun to defend myself from the drones" It's not about individually being able to win a fight against the US Military-Industrial Complex. It's about enough people being armed that any wholesale attempt to suppress the populace is sure to get bloody enough to be bad PR and break the morale of the troops being called upon to shoot civilians. It's about making sure that if another Battle of Blair Mountain happens, the armed thugs brought in by the management don't have free reign to suppress workers with one-sided violence. George Orwell, in writing about the need for a militia outside of the control of the upper class in the face of a potential occupation of Britain summed it up well for me: “That rifle hanging on the wall of the working class flat or labourer’s cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there.”
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I posted over in the glorious Japan thread but anybody got thoughts on the recommended repairs for my Skyline? First one I had sent to mechanic in Japan. Translate 92k yen to let’s say $1k$ Got the Skyline looked at and this is what the mechanic says is worth repairing/fixing/swapping clutch disk pilot bushing release bearings clutch cover assy clutch shaft oil seal and transport back to port 92,000 yen By the way this car has less than 40k mikes if I remember right
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everdave posted:Anyways I just got off the road drove 550 miles to the beach because I was sad and depressed. So now I am exhausted sad and depressed yay brain! I should have stayed home. everdave posted:I don’t know what I was thinking doing this ha. Might just go to the beach and head back tomorrow might not. Just hard on my brain when the kids go to their moms plus I got a ton of issues geez. I'm not telling you to get rid of your guns, but if you do impulsive stuff like this regularly, I recommend getting someone else you trust to hold on to them for you. You can always go get them if you're gonna go shooting or whatever. Suicide by gun is a big issue among rural males and increasing the amount of time it takes to get at a gun by even 15-20 minutes drastically reduces the risk. Not saying you're suicidal, but stats are stats. Just tryin'ta look out for you.
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May 9, 2019 06:10
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Darchangel posted:I live in TX and am probably one of a handful of people without a carry license. I don't have a carry license, and I don't own (nor have I ever owned) any guns. I've gone out to the range a couple of times, and out to the desert once, and plinked holes in targets, but the guns belonged to a friend. I honestly don't trust myself enough to keep one around. I'm Texan only by birth.  GnarlyCharlie4u posted:The gun safe is bolted to the concrete foundation, in the basement in a locked room. Is that the one we loaded up into your trailer? If it is, holy hell how did you get that fucker down to the basement without killing anybody?  Liquid Communism posted:Anyone who can look at American policing and come out pro-police is a nut. Personally, I support the police that are honest, hardworking cops that are trying to do the best for their community, even if I don't agree with all of the laws they have to enforce. The scumbags that are racists, homophobes, xenophobes, on a powertrip, etc, can go gently caress a bear trap. The majority of the cops I've met are downright decent people, and I respect the hell out of them for putting their life on the line.
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KillHour posted:I'm not telling you to get rid of your guns, but if you do impulsive stuff like this regularly, I recommend getting someone else you trust to hold on to them for you. You can always go get them if you're gonna go shooting or whatever. The most common cause of gun death is suicide and increasing the amount of time it takes to get at a gun by even 15-20 minutes drastically reduces the risk. Not saying you're suicidal, but stats are stats. Just tryin'ta look out for you. Thank you. I did not bring a gun with me not because I want to hurt myself I don’t but because I recognize I am depressed and it just didn’t seem the right thing to do. I have my CC but I haven’t even looked up how that relates to Florida vs TN.
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KillHour posted:I'm not telling you to get rid of your guns, but if you do impulsive stuff like this regularly, I recommend getting someone else you trust to hold on to them for you. You can always go get them if you're gonna go shooting or whatever. Suicide by gun is a big issue among rural males and increasing the amount of time it takes to get at a gun by even 15-20 minutes drastically reduces the risk. Not saying you're suicidal, but stats are stats. Just tryin'ta look out for you. This is true. One of my best friends was about to kill himself, but the wal-mart wouldn't sell him the shotgun just because he happened to be in the right state at the time. He didn't have the energy to drive 30 minutes east. 15 years later, he's 20000% happier, with a woman who loves him, and has two great stepkids and the best jobs he's had in his life. Stay safe everdave, hope you find something fun to do at the beach!
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STR posted:Personally, I support the police that are honest, hardworking cops that are trying to do the best for their community, even if I don't agree with all of the laws they have to enforce. The scumbags that are racists, homophobes, xenophobes, on a powertrip, etc, can go gently caress a bear trap. It's the bad apple problem. Every 'good cop' that tolerates the scumbags in the name of the 'thin blue line' is just as bad as they are, just better at hiding it. When someone is given the power to ruin people's lives, they are responsible for seeing that it is used well. I've known a lot of cops who were good people and idealistic enough to think they were doing the world a service. I've had the other kind pull guns on me claiming someone told them 'a big Mexican in a red coat' was robbing the place I was the closing shift worker at and I am approximately the whitest white boy on the planet but happened to be wearing a KC Chiefs coat. Liquid Communism fucked around with this message at 06:26 on May 9, 2019 |
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A+ advice right there. Proper storage helps a lot too if you don't have anyone to take 'em and can't sell off the collection for whatever reason. Unloaded firearm, mags unloaded in a separate room in a locked box, ammunition in a secured lock location separate from both magazines and the receiver. Firearms themselves locked up and disassembled. Every level of security is a chance to rethink intent if self harm is in the proverbial cards. You give yourself more chances to reach out and get help when things look the darkest. It's not much, but in those times when one is feeling good, prepping for when one is feelling the worst by putting impediments in the way is important.
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everdave posted:clutch disk Someone really beat on that thing if it needs a clutch at 40k, unless it's trashed from having oil soak into it.
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STR posted:Someone really beat on that thing if it needs a clutch at 40k, unless it's trashed from having oil soak into it. Yes’m surprised because it is bone stock which is very hard to find at a good price, usually they have steering wheel and shift knob and head unit replaced with some garbage, this one Is factory
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STR posted:Someone really beat on that thing if it needs a clutch at 40k, unless it's trashed from having oil soak into it. Short trips and AWD don't help. It might also have a softer clutch like my subaru has to protect the transmission due to AWD+power.
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"After having 6 beers before during and throughout the duration of Endgame"
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everdave posted:I may be a bit but not a gun but, I am just not comfortable with the idea that whatever brand of dipshit is running the country at the time can tell me I can’t have a gun. Nobody has ever hypothesized such a thing in the US, just like nobody has ever said that everyone must own handguns. Both are nonsensical strawman arguments. Liquid Communism posted:George Orwell, in writing about the need for a militia outside of the control of the upper class in the face of a potential occupation of Britain summed it up well for me: “That rifle hanging on the wall of the working class flat or labourer’s cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there.” There's a middle ground between "All guns, whenever, wherever" and "No guns." It's rifles and shotguns (in general, this isn't hard and fast declaration). Yes, they can be used for mass murder (see Las Vegas and high-capacity clips are not for any hunting purpose), but they're not as quick and easy as handguns. The US has a huge gun problem, and we look like crazy backwards fucks to the rest of the world. We now have ROUTINE MASS GUN MURDERS. We had a school shooting this week that barely made a blip on the radar. We're not even shocked by it anymore. Meanwhile, other countries have one even and change their way of doing things because that's a normal human cognitive response. I'm not anti-gun. I like firing guns, and the raw power of seeing flames shoot out of the 8" barrel of a .357 mag that you just fired is an absolutely profound experience. However, I equate it to cycling -- I love biking, it's one of my favorite hobbies. But... if there was something that developed that a tremendous number of people were being harmed and killed by cycling, I'd give up the hobby. Same thing with handguns.
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meatpimp posted:...we look like crazy backwards fucks to the rest of the world. It's not just about guns either. For some reason I get emails from quora which is a site where people ask questions to be answered by the community (think yahoo answers but with less jokes). Recently an American person asked why it seems like the rest of the world views the US as backwards. One fella put together a really well thought-out response that compared the state of various things in the US to that of various other places in the world. It included the obvious stuff like guns, healthcare, the prison system and death penalty, seemingly inherent racism, at-will employment, policing and a whole load of other things and basically suggested the US attitude to things is pretty nuts. Then one American guy wanders into the replies, states he's never been anywhere but the USA and is totally fine with everything how it is because that's just how it's been all his life. I love the US but man, it could do so much better. (I realise the irony in being from the UK and typing that at this point in time).
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At first I was like 'How come none of these bent "Line of so-called Duty" coppers innit have guns or summat' when I first began to visit the UK 20 years ago. Then I realized it's because the crims don't have AK-47's that they bought at the Tesco's that afternoon, so the filth don't need to ride around like it's Fallujah either. Knife crime! Shouts the daily mail contingent, as I stab 60 people to death and wound another 500 with my switchblade
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May 9, 2019 12:43
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I'm getting the travel bug and post divorce late 30s me is thinking that this is a sensible purchase to getaway: https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/far...gsvqKDXFAAf6-ps
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My attitude to guns is well known - cool to go pew pew with but they have no place in society outside of a gun club. When I was 19 I stared down the wrong end of a rifle. Thats all I'll say on that matter. Also, while I'm saying things I have never said publicly and everyone who knows me doesn't actually know as I've never chosen to talk about it with anyone, not even my SO at the time - I practice what I preach re: guns / gun clubs. For some years after I visited the USA for the first time I actually owned three rifles that I also had locked away at the gun club. I had fun plinking but at some point esp as my mental state disintegrated a few years ago I knew that even locked away I was in no way mentally capable of being a responsible owner, so I sold them and let my license expire. Unless you have a proper mental state and have a proper reason to have one, guns must stay firmly out of civilian hands outside of gun clubs. They should not be in the suburbs at all. And to be honest I found a lot of gun owners in Aust to be horrible right wing assholes that I absolutly didnt want to be around for a second longer. Some were cool of course but JFC there are some outrageous racist cunts in those clubs to say the least\ (hey, not like that a unique thing here.......). I'm glad I'm out. Dont get me wrong tho - now my brain is somewhat better, I'd be the first to go pew pew in the right enviroment. I absolutly love having a shotgun thump my shoulder and rack another slug. Or let rip with a good rifle. I'm poo poo with handguns. But no loving way any gun outside of that right enviroment
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Would you rather have to huddle behind a locked door at the mall/school/workplace/home, hoping that the insane gunman passes you and your loved ones by, letting you live; or would you rather have a firearm, ready to shoot the guy though the door when he starts knocking it down, scaring them off/killing them, protecting yourself and your loved ones? There is no way that any sort of gun ban, confiscation, etc. is going to get every firearm out of everyone's hands other than the military. The remaining firearms are going to, eventually, fall into the hands of one or more individuals who want the power of being able to exert force on another person/group of people without them having a equitable level of force to respond with. The police are not going to swoop in and save you. The military is not going to swoop in and save you. Every single news story about a gunman in which people were killed while police were "responding". There's going to be a lag time while the report goes to the police, the police move to the scene, wait for a manager to arrive on-scene, and then decide how to respond (mostly while trying to cover their own asses). "Okay", you say "then let's get the DANGEROUS weapons out of people's hands, like Australia did". Fine. Let's do that. Let's de-militarize the police, while we're at it. The problem is that every single large lobbying/political group that is for "tougher gun laws" has admitted at one point or another that "tougher gun laws" are just a first step towards completely eliminating legal gun ownership. You can't compromise with groups who's stated intent is to not come to a compromise. The Prong Song fucked around with this message at 14:01 on May 9, 2019 |
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The Prong Song posted:Would you rather have to huddle behind a locked door at the mall/school/workplace/home, hoping that the insane gunman passes you and your loved ones by, letting you live; or would you rather have a firearm, ready to shoot the guy though the door when he starts knocking it down, scaring them off/killing them, protecting yourself and your loved ones? Of course. The answer is "more guns." (Neverminding the fact that you immediately went to "GUN BAN Warglebargle." ProtoAmerican (and seeming hero complex) spotted.  I'd rather not live in fear of some rando bad guy coming to get me. That sounds like a really lovely way to live. Edit: Let's discuss the fact that America is the ONLY country in the world with this problem.
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meatpimp posted:Of course. The answer is "more guns." (Neverminding the fact that you immediately went to "GUN BAN Warglebargle." ProtoAmerican spotted. This is like trying to explain modern IT architecture to my baby boomer coworker. You can't get 100% reliability out of a single piece of equipment. Stop trying to make it 100% reliable. Have failovers, split your functionality as much as possible, build in redundancy. What's your plan for not having some rando bad guy coming to get you, other than "ban all guns lol", which is not going to work 100%?
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The Prong Song posted:This is like trying to explain modern IT architecture to my baby boomer coworker. You can't get 100% reliability out of a single piece of equipment. Stop trying to make it 100% reliable. Have failovers, split your functionality as much as possible, build in redundancy. NO rando bad guy is going to get me. That's the point. I'm living my life without worrying about the mythical bad people getting me. Do we have a gun problem in the US? Without question. Is our money better spent improving the general living conditions instead of "hardening" our schools and congregation areas? Yup. And did you seriously just make an argument that carrying a weapon in day-to-day life is "built in redundancy"?  MC Hawking posted:Edit: Boomers love guns and whining about firearms access to defend themselves against a world they're unable to adapt to.
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I don't live in fear of some bad guy coming to get me cuz I don't live in america
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The Prong Song posted:There is no way that any sort of gun ban, confiscation, etc. is going to get every firearm out of everyone's hands other than the military. This is just straight up wrong. And I know it's wrong because the basic fact is the average gun on the black market lasts a few months before it's either confiscated or thrown away. Most guns on the black market were stolen from a civilian home, not smuggled in. It won't happen in a day, but even the dumbest criminal won't hang onto a gun they murdered someone with. In a few years, black market guns would be very difficult and expensive to obtain. Not impossible, but only the most well organized and funded criminals would have them because they'd pretty much have to be smuggled in. There's another component to this, too - regulating guns necessarily means regulating ammo. Even if you have access to a machine shop and can make your own guns, you're not going to get very far without being able to buy ammo for it (or the firing caps to make ammo). The Prong Song posted:What's your plan for not having some rando bad guy coming to get you, other than "ban all guns lol", which is not going to work 100%? "We can't stop this 100% so there's no point in stopping 99%." Cmon you know that's a dumb argument. We can't stop 100% of car deaths either but we still make people wear seatbelts and get driver's licenses. Having a gun will not protect you from someone that is trying to kill you with a gun. The statistics are very, very, very clear on this. In fact, gun owners are much more likely to be shot than non gun owners - often by their own gun. A gun is a liability, not a protection and you can plug your ears and have "I'm gonna save the day" fantasies all you want, but that won't change the statistics. KillHour fucked around with this message at 14:28 on May 9, 2019 |
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I honestly couldn't tell you the last time I used my pistol, probably almost a year ago. If this hypothetical liberal gubbmint wanted to come and take it from me, I literally wouldn't give a poo poo except that I'd probably be out the like $750 or some poo poo I paid for it, but I'm not gonna join up on Infowars over it. My BIL LOVES that argument and the last time he brought it up I tried explaining to him that it'll probably never happen anyway, and then my dad interrupted all "Uh, ACHTUALLY it already is  ", citing some bullshit story about a local person calling the cops because her neighbor was acting strange and had a ton of guns and the cops ended up shooting him when he pulled a gun after they tried to take them away! Anyway, I wish I would have bought a shotgun instead, because shooting clays is approximately a million times more fun than shooting paper targets with a pistol, thanks for coming to my Ted Talk. Edit: Also, maybe worth mentioning: one Christmas a couple of years ago my mom was interested in a concealed carry permit and pistol because my dad goes out of town for several days a time for work and she's a tiny old woman. My dad "gifted" her my BIL's S&W Bodyguard or something to see if she liked it, and then he'd go buy her one. As she was handling it my BIL and I proceeded to tell her about the 4 rules of handling a firearm and she immediately points it at the ceiling without checking it and puts her finger on the trigger and giggles at us and we were like "No, seriously, never point it at something and put your finger on the trigger if you don't want to shoot it without checking to see if it's loaded" and she just laughed and said something like "Oh whatever, you obviously wouldn't give me a loaded gun" *CLICK* And then like a week later I stopped by and startled her when I walked in and she told me I was lucky she didn't have her gun yet because she would have shot me. So yeah, someone like my mom can walk into any gun store and purchase a firearm, and then be like "WeLl ThE gOvErNmEnT sHoUlDn'T bE aBlE tO rEgUlAtE fIrEaRmS" T-Square fucked around with this message at 14:51 on May 9, 2019 |
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~80% of all gunshot deaths is due to suicide (actually roughly the same in the US and Europe). So that's a very good incentive to be more restrictive with guns in a country where pretty much anyone can get one. Myself in Sweden wouldn't even know where to start when it comes to get a gun illegally. One thing I find curious with the US is the "I like freedom so I want to live in the US". I mean... I'd say that most of Europe is more free... but ok. I kinda like the Newsroom monologue in the beginning. Seems to strike hard at the US mentality of being the best in the world.
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MrOnBicycle posted:One thing I find curious with the US is the "I like freedom so I want to live in the US". I mean... I'd say that most of Europe is more free... but ok. But it's the land of the free (to die from easily treatable disease) and the home of the brave(ly going to get shot at random because every clown has a gun).
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MrOnBicycle posted:"I like freedom (from social obligations like paying taxes, caring about others and not being a bigot) so I want to live in the US". That help explain it?
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KillHour posted:That help explain it? Yowch.
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T-Square posted:immediately points it at the ceiling without checking it and puts her finger on the trigger and giggles at us and we were like "No, seriously, never point it at something and put your finger on the trigger if you don't want to shoot it without checking to see if it's loaded" and she just laughed and said something like "Oh whatever, you obviously wouldn't give me a loaded gun" *CLICK* Jesus loving Christ. Your mom is gonna kill somebody.
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EDIT: ^^^ Jesus yeah please get your mother some firearms safety training.KillHour posted:...And I know it's wrong because the basic fact is the average gun on the black market lasts a few months before it's either confiscated or thrown away. Most guns on the black market were stolen from a civilian home, not smuggled in*... *[citation needed] According to the studies and papers I've been able to find, from sources like DoJ, ATF and BoJ, something like 10-15% of guns used in crimes are "stolen from civilian homes". They mostly aren't coming from gun stores, either - although so-called straw buyers do make up a noticeable fraction of guns used in crimes. The huge majority of firearms used in crimes were purchased from the black market. The black market, by the way, includes non-FFL holders (just, you know, regular citizens) selling to other individuals. Something like 40% of firearms used in crimes were purchased from "friends or family". https://www.policeissues.com/Sources.pdf (this paper itself references many sources). https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/fuo.pdf (from a while ago, but interesting figures nonetheless) If you filter out gun deaths by suicide, then, no, most gun owners are not shot by their own firearm. If you want to argue that having a gun in the household increases the risk of suicide by mentally ill people, I can agree with that. Let's get firearms out of the hands of mentally ill folks, and not return them until their illness is treated and they're judged compos mentis. Saying that owning a firearm doesn't protect you from someone trying to kill you with a firearm - there's not much research to support or disprove that. Pro-gun-ban folks will tell you that is because the NRA is "hushing up" all the research. Pro-gun folks will tell you that it happens ALL THE TIME and that it's the gun-banners who are "hushing up the research." Researchers will tell you that it's because it's very difficult to get figures on relatively rare events in which two parties who are involved both have reasons for not reporting the event - gun owners because they don't want the police breathing down their necks, and gun-toting criminals because they don't want the police breathing down their necks. And it's not a "save the day" fantasy - and trying to link my arguments to daydreams of being a hero is just intentionally being insulting. I'm not going to willingly put myself into the position of not being able to use equatable force to defend myself. This is the part I just don't get. Are you convinced that there is a 100% chance nobody will every use a firearm to commit a crime against you or your family, or are you 99% sure and willing to just let the 1% happen?
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KillHour posted:That help explain it? Yep. lol.
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The Prong Song posted:Are you convinced that there is a 100% chance nobody will every use a firearm to commit a crime against you or your family, or are you 99% sure and willing to just let the 1% happen? I don't have time to address all your points right now, but I'll answer this one. I'm 100% sure the chances of someone using a gun to commit a crime against me or my family will go down if guns are banned. I'm not willing to let it just happen because I'm willing to fight to have them banned. I'm 100% convinced this is more effective than carrying a gun myself. There are no absolute protections in life, just degrees. Other countries have laid down the road map to reducing gun violence and we need to follow it. Edit: I also don't want to have to carry a gun around to feel safe. And I don't want to be around people that feel they do because those people are now looking at me as a potential threat and they have a gun. That's loving terrifying. Keep your drat guns away from me. KillHour fucked around with this message at 15:22 on May 9, 2019 |
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