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cosmosisjones posted:I always enjoy the radical cures that make no sense and still cure you. Like the one where they pretty much seal you in with a roomful of bees to cure the flu or something. Doctor, doctor I'm dying of cancer quick help! The obvious answer is cut your dick off.
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I'm having my best run yet. I cannot believe how smoothly the transition from my beloved expansionist long reign ruler to his daughter went. This is the biggest, strongest, calmest empire I've created and it feels so good. Current religious standings  How the religions look  Current players  My realm(I started as Petty Kingdom of Connachta in 769) 
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Ultimate Shrek Fan posted:I'm having my best run yet. I cannot believe how smoothly the transition from my beloved expansionist long reign ruler to his daughter went. This is the biggest, strongest, calmest empire I've created and it feels so good. Is that catholic byzantium? Also ascendant buddhism? A very blessed run
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May 9, 2019 02:21
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It went Catholic shortly after the crusades began. It was weird. Never seen that before.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Doctor, doctor I'm dying of cancer quick help! maybe it was dick cancer
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DeathChicken posted:Something else odd sprung up. My king was mysteriously poisoned at like 80, game pops to the youngest son (still on Ultimogeniture). He has one kid, an illegitimate bastard, his current heir being his brother. I don't want that, so I legitimize Baby Bastard. He still isn't listed as heir, in spite of being the King's only kid. Is this just a thing where he has to be legitimate at birth or something in order to qualify for the throne, acknowledging him later doesn't matter? The game can take a while to recalculate inheritance, did the issue fix itself or is your brother still your heir?
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May 9, 2019 05:48
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If you're not on ironman you can use the console command recalc_succ <Character ID> to update succession for a character.
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Torrannor posted:The game can take a while to recalculate inheritance, did the issue fix itself or is your brother still your heir? Same situation after letting a few months go by. I even threw the bastard a random county just to see if that would do anything. Nada, he still isn't on the inheritance list.
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May 9, 2019 14:12
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DeathChicken posted:Same situation after letting a few months go by. I even threw the bastard a random county just to see if that would do anything. Nada, he still isn't on the inheritance list. Can you show us screenshots of your brother and your bastard?
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My game has been acting a bit fucky as well. My last ruler's rank up to conversus got stuck in the mail and when I switched to primogeniture, somehow my second son was still the heir to Ireland. He ended up dying in personal combat, unfortunately. He was a Brian genus, so the plan was to kill off the first son, somehow. Thankfully the primary heir ain't too shabby, so the loss of the genius didnt hurt as much.
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May 9, 2019 14:41
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King Former Bastard  King's Brother/current heir  Line of inheritance (that would start with the King's brother, the former bastard is not on the list) 
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May 9, 2019 15:25
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Issue might be that your son is a prince-bishop?
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May 9, 2019 15:32
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DeathChicken posted:Former Bastard As cargohills mentioned, your former bastard can't inherit because monks/bishops/cardinals are disqualified from inheritance. Revoke his counties, that will make him your heir.
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May 9, 2019 15:37
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Yeah, he started out with Iona when kingship popped to me, I gave him Somerset to see what it would do. Both of which have churches as their capitals, I assume that's causing the cross-title.
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DeathChicken posted:Yeah, he started out with Iona when kingship popped to me, I gave him Somerset to see what it would do. Both of which have churches as their capitals, I assume that's causing the cross-title. It is. If only Iona had a bishopric as capital, but Somerset had a castle instead, he would become a feudal ruler just from revoking Iona. But you have to take away both titles if you want him to inherit.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Doctor, doctor I'm dying of cancer quick help! And somehow it works.
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And another slight hiccup. I was able to take Iona away from sonny boy, but the game forbids me from revoking Somerset as it doesn't fall under England's revocation laws. I...have no idea why this would matter, I'm considered his liege, not the shattered remnants of England. But so it goes. Honestly this would all probably be easier served if the king just plopped out another kid, but his wife is too old for it, the pope won't let me divorce her, I can't kill her without getting Kinslayer (not even quite sure how she's related to him, but apparently she is), and she's been in the Oubliette for five years without dying. Woof. DeathChicken fucked around with this message at 16:28 on May 9, 2019 |
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May 9, 2019 16:14
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Would it be possible to convert Iona's capital to a castle and then give it back to him so he's holding a normal feudal title?
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He would be back in line for inheritance if he owned a normal title and the prince-bishop title? Because I have assloads of spare counties to throw around if that's the case.
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May 9, 2019 16:49
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No he'll just hold them as a bishop afaik
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So as a man who has a very tenuous handle on the game's mechanics, would it be worth it to start playing tutorial style games with zero DLC, just to wrap my head around the "base" game? Or is this a game that, similar to Civilization, is altered so much with the DLC that I'd need to re-learn it all anyway?
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chaosapiant posted:So as a man who has a very tenuous handle on the game's mechanics, would it be worth it to start playing tutorial style games with zero DLC, just to wrap my head around the "base" game? Or is this a game that, similar to Civilization, is altered so much with the DLC that I'd need to re-learn it all anyway? I'd recommend using Way of Life at least.
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May 9, 2019 17:36
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he's defined by what his primary title is, and the only way to make sure his primary title goes feudal is to disenfranchise him entirely and then re-land him. considering your king's relatively young age and the mediocrity of baby bastard i would just get your marriage sorted out right (your wife is in jail right now, if that's for a good reason or she is infertile then get rid of her, if it's not then release her and get to baby making) and let sleeping dogs lie. you've already gone through a lot of trouble for this kid and you're still at a substantial mechanical disadvantage. your heir is still a dynast, so while it's nonideal it's far from the worst case scenario. your bases are essentially covered at the immediate moment, so i'd wash my hands of the situation and start building again. chaosapiant posted:So as a man who has a very tenuous handle on the game's mechanics, would it be worth it to start playing tutorial style games with zero DLC, just to wrap my head around the "base" game? Or is this a game that, similar to Civilization, is altered so much with the DLC that I'd need to re-learn it all anyway? i would say just dive in with full dlc (inasmuch as you should play with as much as you have, not all the DLC is required by a very long shot). the tricky part about this game is that the game is 90-95% the same in terms of interactions and abilities totally in vanilla, but because of how the game is set up, one decision to do one thing in the year 800 can drastically affect the state of the world in the year 900. monks and mystics, for example, gives you the societies, right? well in the year 800, you choose to join the hermetic society. in 20 years, you have maxed out your standing in the society and write a magnum opus. you focus on the universal panacea and get the best version of it, which is +1 health for as long as it's active in your character's library. because of that, in the year 900, your genius great-grandchild survives a bout of camp fever when they are 35 and lives for another 40 years and establishes an empire rather than dying young and preventing you from getting that goal done for another 3 generations. better understanding the 'vanilla' mechanics will not help you prepare for or foresee these things. you just have to crash into these situations and analyze them relentlessly. that's kind of the reason why this game stands head and shoulders above all other paradox games, what you do today will absolutely affect in a giant way what will be true 100 years from now. if there's a human alive that can process and predict things on that scale i haven't met them yet, so the best you can do is dive in and absorb what you can. Coolguye fucked around with this message at 18:55 on May 9, 2019 |
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chaosapiant posted:So as a man who has a very tenuous handle on the game's mechanics, would it be worth it to start playing tutorial style games with zero DLC, just to wrap my head around the "base" game? Or is this a game that, similar to Civilization, is altered so much with the DLC that I'd need to re-learn it all anyway? It's sort of inbetween; a small handful are "required" but the rest are just flavorful if you decide you like the game (e.g. sons of abraham). Going by the second post under the OP I would recommend all 4 under strongly recommended: quote:Strongly recommended DLCs, buy these! And of those four, if you only want to get one at a time for whatever reason, I would rank them thus in order of importance to base gameplay: 1. Way of Life 2. Conclave 3. Holy Fury 4. Old Gods
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Which DLC contains the war chest? Trying to follow the tutorial off of the wiki, but it suggests starting with “war chest” ambition, which I can’t find. Edit: or is there a vanilla tutorial that can help me learn the game before I invest into the rest of the DLC?
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Torrannor posted:It is. If only Iona had a bishopric as capital, but Somerset had a castle instead, he would become a feudal ruler just from revoking Iona. But you have to take away both titles if you want him to inherit. Is that always true? I've had a lot of problems where ex-priests are locked into having theocracies no matter what titles they have.
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virinvictus posted:Which DLC contains the war chest? Trying to follow the tutorial off of the wiki, but it suggests starting with “war chest” ambition, which I can’t find. war chest requires the conclave DLC the game itself has a tutorial where you are king alfonso of leon, that was made in vanilla and is still 100% applicable.
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chaosapiant posted:So as a man who has a very tenuous handle on the game's mechanics, would it be worth it to start playing tutorial style games with zero DLC, just to wrap my head around the "base" game? Or is this a game that, similar to Civilization, is altered so much with the DLC that I'd need to re-learn it all anyway? if you install way of life (lifestyles own) and conclave (better council mechanics) that would be all the dlc i recommend. both of these dlc give you stuff to do that isn't trying to gain/press claims or do wars or build things you can go into it vanilla and be just fine, none of the dlc really adds anything essential
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I actually have all the DLC, so I’ll just leave it enabled then and let my game cruise and see what kinda poo poo I can get into. Thanks for the tips!
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If Holy Fury really is the last DLC maybe they’ll do a Gold version? That’s how I ended up buying HOI3 I think?
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Crow Jane posted:I'd recommend using Way of Life at least. Way of Life + Conclave.
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If your thinking of the DLC in Civ terms, I’d say conclave is more game altering than Way of Life. Way of life adds a lot of fun stuff on top of the base game, but Conclave changes base mechanics like vassal management enough that if you start with base you’ll need to forget what you just learned. I don’t think Way of Life adds enough that it would be overwhelming to a new player, but if you really want to start with the minimum possible, I’d do conclave, but both would be the most fun.
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pseudodragon posted:If your thinking of the DLC in Civ terms, I’d say conclave is more game altering than Way of Life. Way of life adds a lot of fun stuff on top of the base game, but Conclave changes base mechanics like vassal management enough that if you start with base you’ll need to forget what you just learned. Agreed, in hindsight I would probably switch 1 and 2 on my importance list.
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drat I just started up a new game and picked the Hunting focus on my first ruler then killed the White Stag first try 2 years in, lucky s.o.b.
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Zohar posted:drat I just started up a new game and picked the Hunting focus on my first ruler then killed the White Stag first try 2 years in, lucky s.o.b. I have +1200 hours, never killed the stag. I have been satan, immortal, wolf, insane lover of glitterhoof, imbecile but never killed that godamn stag.
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Coolguye posted:he's defined by what his primary title is, and the only way to make sure his primary title goes feudal is to disenfranchise him entirely and then re-land him.
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SnoochtotheNooch posted:I have +1200 hours, never killed the stag. I have been satan, immortal, wolf, insane lover of glitterhoof, imbecile but never killed that godamn stag. I think I have once. It's one of those things where it requires so many rolls to go your way that it is very easy to see multiple playthroughs go by and not even get close to having it happen. Like even the immortality chain has a higher chance of success with good stats.
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i'm attempting to finally get into these games because i love huge, bloated, extremely complex video games. i'm fiddling around in ireland and have managed to become a duke after 30 years or so, which is exciting. its very fun fiddling with all of the different mechanics even if i have absolutely no clue what im doing. is there a goon discord for either CK2 or paradox strategy games in general or is the thread the most active place for discussion? im dumb and have a lot of questions all the time
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Charlie Bobson posted:i'm attempting to finally get into these games because i love huge, bloated, extremely complex video games. i'm fiddling around in ireland and have managed to become a duke after 30 years or so, which is exciting. its very fun fiddling with all of the different mechanics even if i have absolutely no clue what im doing. it's a discord for my community rather than either of those things specifically but there are lots of CK2 and stellaris players in my own discord and i personally have been running a lot of instructional streams recently. here is the link, i'm pretty much always delighted to talk CK2 in depth.
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Good lord this game is dense to me. I'm just not getting the hang of it. I've tried doing the "tutorial island" thing with Ireland a few times while watching YouTube vids, but I end up just getting bored and moving on to another game. I can see there's an awesome game here if I can just get to it. I had one of those little information bubbles at the top say that I could press a claim, but when I clicked it, it took me to that characters screen and there were not options to press a claim. I did find claim/title options under my "realm" control panel however. I also am not sure how to tell at a glance what my armies are doing (in this case I'm playing as Stannis in the Got mod) and how to move them around if needed.
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