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Him being non-white isn't the issue, if that's what you're insinuating others to mean, but his characterization and the plot he's stuck in. The lack of vertical traversal outside of forested areas also sucked.
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I wonder what the protagonists of other AC games have in common that Connor doesn't.
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Terces posted:Rogue definitely sold less than AC3 did and was not a good game. I recall more about Connor than Shay honestly - I had to google just to remember what his name was. I mean seriously, what WAS Shay's personality? If i got bored real quick with syndicate and lost interest in black flag, is there any chance of me liking any other AC game? Bummer unity sucks bc that seems like one of the more interesting time periods out of the series
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May 10, 2019 02:06
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Regular Nintendo posted:If i got bored real quick with syndicate and lost interest in black flag, is there any chance of me liking any other AC game? You might like the new ones that are basically not even AC games at all anymore and really more like action-RPGs. Skyrim without magic. Well, less magic. Odyssey and Origins, check them out. Personally, I really hated them, but different strokes for different folks.
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Regular Nintendo posted:If i got bored real quick with syndicate and lost interest in black flag, is there any chance of me liking any other AC game? Unity sucking honestly is overrated right now, it was a goddamn mess at launch to say the least but when I played it a few months back, it was a serviceable game about stabbing guys in the kidney with three of your best friends with only a few graphical glitches the series is known for. Also if you didn't like Syndicate you're not going to like any of the other ones, they're very similar games and know what they're marketing to (namely, people who want to parkour around historical settings and stab people in the kidneys)
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Regular Nintendo posted:If i got bored real quick with syndicate and lost interest in black flag, is there any chance of me liking any other AC game? Origin and Odyssey are very good and radically improved
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May 10, 2019 02:25
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Unity runs a lot better than it did at launch, that's for sure. I didn't really care for Arno in particular, but the gameplay was solid and France looked good. Really it just plays like every non-recent AC game, so if that was your issue with Syndicate you might have the same problem. If you simply found the setting of London boring (and who could blame you), maybe France is more up your alley. I personally loved the fast paced combat of Origins and Odyssey, but like previously said the gameplay is very different compared to the older games. It's still a lot of parkouring up cool historical buildings and stabbing/shooting dudes while uncovering another templar conspiracy.
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Just be aware that there is a crazy amount of empty space in those games. The game worlds are ginormous, like, it'll take you literal hours to walk from one end to the other, but the flipside of this is that there is also not a whole lot of anything to actually be found in most of it. Out of a hundred different generic villages, maybe five or six actually have anything unique in them. Mostly they're entirely interchangeable, with the exact sme three shops in every one of them, with the exact same inventory. If you choose not to fast-travel constantly, you will spend a lot of time riding through very pretty, but also very empty Greek wilderness. Personally, I quickly found myself thinking that while there were plenty of places for me to go, I didn't really feel like there was a whole lot worth seeing. I appreciate the ambition that went into those games, but I think they would've benefited from being pared down by 90% of the sheer area they cover. It's what I like better about the old pattern games: they're more compact, but also a whole lot more content-dense.
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Cardiovorax posted:Just be aware that there is a crazy amount of empty space in those games. The game worlds are ginormous, like, it'll take you literal hours to walk from one end to the other, but the flipside of this is that there is also not a whole lot of anything to actually be found in most of it. Out of a hundred different generic villages, maybe five or six actually have anything unique in them. Mostly they're entirely interchangeable, with the exact sme three shops in every one of them, with the exact same inventory. If you choose not to fast-travel constantly, you will spend a lot of time riding through very pretty, but also very empty Greek wilderness. Wow, that sounds incredibly realistic. 
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I have been told that Odyssey is apparently the next best thing to actually backpacking through real-world Greece, if you just want to see the landscape and such. I found it really boring and samey, but hey, they are very popular games. Clearly there's an appeal to it.
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May 10, 2019 03:13
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I found Origins to be really fun but it's definitely not like the original AC games. The only glitch I encountered was Bayek trying to dive into solid ground (dove into water too close between a boat and the shore).
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Terces posted:Rogue definitely sold less than AC3 did and was not a good game. I recall more about Connor than Shay honestly - I had to google just to remember what his name was. I mean seriously, what WAS Shay's personality? He was Irish.
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May 10, 2019 05:49
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Famously white Altair and the guy from the Egypt one. Ezio is the only white guy and italians have only been white for like 100 years. Edit:not sure who the black flag guy was tbh. Connor again?
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May 10, 2019 05:52
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Connor's very super Welsh grandfather.
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Ok so two white dudes.
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May 10, 2019 05:57
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His first mate was a former slave who got his own dlc/shorter spinoff game. And then you assassinate him in AC:Rogue.
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I liked Origins but didn't care for the other games in the series. I tried really hard to see what the appeal was with the previous titles, and they just weren't for me. I'll always remember Petruccio's face, though. Always.
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Yes, the game series which has had Egyptian, black Caribbean, three different women, Middle-Eastern, and native American main protagonist sure is racism because they have also had one French, one Irish, one Greek, two British and one Italian main male protagonists. And this is just the "main line" 3D games. There is at least one Chinese, second middle-eastern and one Russian protag. if we count all other releases. Connor isn't liked because his writing is terrible, the voice actor was wooden at best and the game itself was set to a location which had really limited amount of content that was not clone-stamped colonial hovels. Der Kyhe has a new favorite as of 12:42 on May 10, 2019 |
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Yeah, seriously, gently caress that noise. I would've found Connor equally uninteresting if he had been the whitest white guy in the history of white bread. I actually put him on a level with Altair, writing wise. They're both the same flavour of generically bland and unoffensive, which made the game feel like a step backwards for reasons that have nothing to do with his skin color. I certainly wouldn't mind playing an AC game with an actual black protagonist for once, come to think of it. It's not like the series is still plot-obligated to stick with people who could conceivably have been Demond Miles' ancestors. Or maybe someone from India. Lots and lots of historical temples and giant cities to be an rear end in a top hat in, there. It's an ancient civilization on par with Egypt that way, after all.
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Cardiovorax posted:Yeah, seriously, gently caress that noise. I would've found Connor equally uninteresting if he had been the whitest white guy in the history of white bread. I actually put him on a level with Altair, writing wise. They're both the same flavour of generically bland and unoffensive, which made the game feel like a step backwards for reasons that have nothing to do with his skin color. India would be rad, I think there was a chronicles game set there. Assassin's Creed: Liberation iirc had Aveline being able to pass as black or white be a gameplay mechanic, but I haven't played most of the games.
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xthetenth posted:India would be rad, I think there was a chronicles game set there. Assassin's Creed: Liberation iirc had Aveline being able to pass as black or white be a gameplay mechanic, but I haven't played most of the games. There's plenty of time periods and places in China (and South-East Asia) that would be absolutely killer for an Assassin's Creed game, too.
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xthetenth posted:Assassin's Creed: Liberation iirc had Aveline being able to pass as black or white be a gameplay mechanic, but I haven't played most of the games. Ratoslov posted:There's plenty of time periods and places in China (and South-East Asia) that would be absolutely killer for an Assassin's Creed game, too.
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Der Kyhe posted:Yes, the game series which has had Egyptian, black Caribbean, three different women, Middle-Eastern, and native American main protagonist sure is racism because they have also had one French, one Irish, one Greek, two British and one Italian main male protagonists. And this is just the "main line" 3D games. There is at least one Chinese, second middle-eastern and one Russian protag. if we count all other releases. Unfortunately Altair is pretty bland, Connor is pretty bland. It sucks that both Aveline and Adewale were regulated to side games instead of being full blown protags in their own massive games (they were more personable and are characters I would have liked to see more of). It also sucks that the three platformer side games have even more minority protags with interesting settings that should've got full games. Bayek actually had his own full game, was done super well and out of all the assassins I found him the most likeable. Origins as a whole was really, really good. Ezio, Edward, Arno, Jacob and Evie, Kassandra and Alexios were well explored and liked. Shay is really the only weak link in this group I'd say. I can kinda see why someone would bring up racism, that's not a very good track record. But Origins was great for story, setting and characters so Ubi definitely improved on that, I hope they keep it up. I'd like to see the chronicles get full games, the settings are solid and there is a poo poo ton you can work with in India, China and Russia. Asia has a lot going for it in general - I mean I'd love to play an assassin set in the Mongol Empire.
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quote:I can kinda see why someone would bring up racism, that's not a very good track record. But Origins was great for story, setting and characters so Ubi definitely improved on that, I hope they keep it up. It's unfortunate that the protagonists of the main series games have mostly been generically white people, but there are enough sympathetic and interesting people of all races and genders throughout the games, especially if you factor in the side titles, that only one of those really annoying screamy idiot types could call the developers systematically racist and expect it to be taken seriously. It's a thing to legitimately criticize and I'd be the first to play a game that has a bit more variety to it, but it doesn't pay to lose all sense of proportion about it either.
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Odyssey also scores points for being one of very very very few AAA games where the protagonist can be bi/gay. (And then immediately loses them again for having a DLC where they forcibly turn them straight to slam out a baby, even though there's no longer a need for genetic descendants of them for the game's premise to function.)
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I thought the AC: Odyssey issue was over the achievent/trophy being titled "Growing Up" and not so much just Kassandra having a kid.
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It was both. They talked about letting you play a gay/bi character pre-release and forced you into a straight relationship in the DLC to get an unneeded baby and the trophy for completing the DLC was "Growing Up" which when paired with the un-gaying has the unfortunate connotation that being gay is something you 'grow out of'.
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May 10, 2019 21:15
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Please post more NPCs being where they shouldn't videos. Anyone have that mystery drama game where the dude just starts dancing like he's about to gently caress in the middle of the club grinding his dick and all that?
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Also I feel like Syndicate was the first time a trans man was just a trans dude, instead of having him explain all the usual woke media thing where now he represents all trans people and talks about his struggle. He's just a cool shady business dude. Maybe he just has a weird voice and his suit doesn't fit well, but I was pleasantly surprised there's no bullshit story contrivances regarding it and they just let him be.
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Veotax posted:It was both. They talked about letting you play a gay/bi character pre-release and forced you into a straight relationship in the DLC to get an unneeded baby and the trophy for completing the DLC was "Growing Up" which when paired with the un-gaying has the unfortunate connotation that being gay is something you 'grow out of'. In all fairness, coupled with the name of the trophy, it really doesn't look good, so that's kind of a gently caress-up either way.
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dialhforhero posted:Please post more NPCs being where they shouldn't videos. This one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo08vOFbFC0
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dialhforhero posted:Please post more NPCs being where they shouldn't videos. I have no idea what video you're talking about but it reminded me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbhQE1z4dmM (Not actually a glitch but whatever)
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dialhforhero posted:Please post more NPCs being where they shouldn't videos. Not strictly an NPC where they shouldn't and probably a classic at this point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inkj4yop5P8
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Different game, same bug. https://i.imgur.com/pLhxkRs.mp4
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Does anyone have the video of an Assassin's Creed Unity game where in the middle of a cutscene a pair of NPC bystanders spawn, and you can't even hear what the main characters are saying over the sound of two really rude Frenchmen? I thought I had it saved but I can't find it now. Edit: thanks! Somehow missed it. Don Gato has a new favorite as of 08:07 on May 11, 2019 |
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Last post of the previous pageTerces posted:Rogue definitely sold less than AC3 did and was not a good game. I recall more about Connor than Shay honestly - I had to google just to remember what his name was. I mean seriously, what WAS Shay's personality?
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Fathis Munk posted:Different game, same bug. Different different game, same bug: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWZ60S_13Sc&hd=1
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jufGDHQgKDE This just happened to me. Not a bug per se but really good timing.
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Sereri posted:Different different game, same bug: Yet another different game, still the same bug. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McFLYk1k9UE Please excuse how horrible, blurry and dark everything looks, Crysis 2 was just like that and it is not a bug 
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