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Fellis posted:I do not remember sourface going to town on saitamas hog being in the comic just wait until Murata redraws that chapter
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Mordaedil posted:It's funny how little people understand why these decisions are made. Knowing the context just helps explain why the result is terrible, they don’t change that the result is terrible
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May 10, 2019 13:23
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do the production committees ever make decisions like "this anime needs to look absolutely spectacular?" what are their tools for making that happen? the impression i've gotten whenever these threads talk about it is that good animation is essentially wholly a product of the production staff deciding that they want it to look good (and are willing to not sleep for the next few days to make a gorgeous cut), and there isn't really a mechanism for a production committee to sink in more money for better animation.
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May 10, 2019 13:48
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TheKingofSprings posted:Knowing the context just helps explain why the result is terrible, they don’t change that the result is terrible If only incessant whining on the internet improved conditions in the workplace for animators instead of the opposite. At least they got rid of that director that also threw a tantrum about Kemono Friends. It's not like I don't get people's disappointment with the series and I don't have a lot of good things to say about it, but calling it terrible just kinda does the people working on it a disservice. They do shonen stuff and OPM just has a different pace and style to that, that they can't capture. There's little to say more than that. Oh and the OP is surprisingly weak and lacks punch.
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May 10, 2019 13:49
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it's terrible
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May 10, 2019 14:02
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Mordaedil posted:Season 3 is what matters anyway. because there was a scheduling conflict with the previous series director and someone screamed "DO IT ANYWAY"
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Attestant posted:it's terrible
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May 10, 2019 18:22
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dear lord
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May 10, 2019 18:30
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This reminds me of Gintama's anime parodies for some reason
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May 10, 2019 18:55
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Fellis posted:I do not remember sourface going to town on saitamas hog being in the comic Murata drew Fubuki trying on clothes instead of that. Attestant posted:No matter what the "why" is, the end result is still dumb. People keep bringing up the reason why this happened because acting like the producers just decided to not put any effort in at all is extremely dumb.
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May 10, 2019 19:56
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The above comparison seems to show more than just rushed animation. that poo poo is just straight up awful look at it! They got the drat storyboard in the Murata drawings, all they gotta do is add a few frames to each scene
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May 10, 2019 20:02
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they could have added zero frames to Murata's version and it would have improved markedly
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May 10, 2019 20:18
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Hellsau posted:they could have added zero frames to Murata's version and it would have improved markedly I'd just settle for colouring in the lines honestly
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May 10, 2019 20:47
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ninjewtsu posted:do the production committees ever make decisions like "this anime needs to look absolutely spectacular?" what are their tools for making that happen? the impression i've gotten whenever these threads talk about it is that good animation is essentially wholly a product of the production staff deciding that they want it to look good (and are willing to not sleep for the next few days to make a gorgeous cut), and there isn't really a mechanism for a production committee to sink in more money for better animation. There is one method for the production committee to generally give a show higher quality animation, by budgeting more of the most important resource of them all: give the staff more time so they can run on a schedule that humans can actually keep. When a production falls apart it is almost always because the schedule was impossible and they ran out of time.
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May 10, 2019 22:47
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Whatever your feelings on this season, blame the production company, not the actual artists. I hope everyone knows it's not their fault.
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Nanigans posted:Whatever your feelings on this season, blame the production company, not the actual artists. I hope everyone knows it's not their fault. Yeah, of course. It's really, really obvious the issue with this season is the same as the one Dragon Ball Super had: extremely rushed production causing the animators to be completely unable to produce a good product, not because of any lack of effort or talent but because they lack the most important resource: time. And that is most definitely not their fault. This was really badly handled and hopefully it'll experience the same kind of backlash Dragon Ball Super did (where even Toriyama himself, who doesn't give a poo poo about most things, complained), not because I want them to be punished but because it made Super's animation grow noticeably better as the series went on. Of course, OPM has far less time, but it might make the eventual S3 get a proper schedule instead of this rush that was probably really painful on the animators and artists too.
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May 10, 2019 23:27
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Mordaedil posted:It's funny how little people understand why these decisions are made. I can say the same thing about the 737 Max but like this anime, the final product is still flaming wreckage. Nanigans posted:Whatever your feelings on this season, blame the production company, not the actual artists. I hope everyone knows it's not their fault. It's almost always the managements fault. Season 2 looks exactly like you would expect if they were told to redraw everything in between each episode release and they only hired half the number of animators needed to do it in the first place. It's unfortunate and I don't think anyone blames the artists who are probably being literally flogged to produce content faster at this point so that the producer can get a bonus. Still not as bad as that Berserk wiggle walk someone posted earlier. That genuinely made me laugh.
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May 11, 2019 00:14
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this but Murata's art
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The junk collector posted:Still not as bad as that Berserk wiggle walk someone posted earlier. That genuinely made me laugh. Nothing's gonna surpass Berserk 2016 for sheer "how did this animation get released in this state."
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May 11, 2019 00:56
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Earlier someone mentioned that they were still reeling from the eartquake back in September so the power not staying on consistently was probably another issue. Another problem that could've been solved by giving them more prep time.
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May 11, 2019 04:07
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Mordaedil posted:If only incessant whining on the internet improved conditions in the workplace for animators instead of the opposite. shut up moron
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May 11, 2019 04:33
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"We should improve conditions for animators somewhat." "Yet you participate in watching anime. Curious! I am very intelligent."
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May 11, 2019 04:46
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May 11, 2019 05:48
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Yeah, that was the fight I was looking forward to most, and they didn't do a good job with it. They might be saving budget for the Suiryu fight, but it's nowhere near as good or interesting as Metal Bat v Garou. Also I didn't like Zenko's VA.
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I'm not going to say that this doesn't look awful, but it's not really a fair comparison. One is meant as a still image meant to convey movement which you can look at as long as you wany. The other is a image which is part of a sequence depicting movement which you would normally only see for a second. The latter will always have less detail.
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May 11, 2019 10:52
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Hellsau posted:Nothing's gonna surpass Berserk 2016 for sheer "how did this animation get released in this state." With Berserk 2016, they didn't even really start making the show at all until a month or so before the first episode 
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See, there's a lot of stuff happening behi- gently caress, nevermind, this is absolute garbage on fire.
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May 11, 2019 17:45
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Is he shooting a hadouken in the anime?
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May 11, 2019 17:49
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Yeah it's almost impressive how the animators fundamentally misunderstood the scene. 
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May 11, 2019 17:51
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I think I figured it out, they accidentally used ONEs drawings as storyboards instead of Murata's.
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graham cracker posted:I think I figured it out, they accidentally used ONEs drawings as storyboards instead of Murata's. Murata basically uses One's storyboards, because ONE is an exceptionally good artist when it comes to compositions.
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May 12, 2019 02:15
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May 12, 2019 02:46
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I'm the third hand on the left. One of the afterimages.
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May 12, 2019 04:00
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I'm the complete lack of dynamism from Garou's legs.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PCURl6Hfqg Here's the fight itself, and yeah, looks like he just kinda counters and throws a quick tiny hadouken. Also, i'm the huge puffy left pantleg
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May 12, 2019 04:02
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I'm Metal Bat's mitten hand.
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It's not as bad as I thought it would be but it's still weak as poo poo.
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The anime is making it hard to care about any of these characters or any of their fights. Blizzard, Tank Top Master, Metal Bat - none of them feel strong or interesting. Even King is meh. I think it's more the pacing than the art, though the art certainly doesn't help. If I had not read the manga, I don't know how much I would have cared to keep up the show.
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Mr. Lobe posted:tag urself, I'm the vaguely annoyed expression I'm the hunch
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