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ElGroucho posted:Rural America should just die already I'm all for that as long as I get to see Portland/Austin/Brooklyn burn.
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ElGroucho posted:Rural America should just die already Only after we completely redo our government from the ground up to not over-represent empty land. The Senate is already insanely anti-democratic, just wait until every poor person in the country is dead or gone; it'll be 80% controlled by 15% of the country's population that consists of rich old white men
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May 10, 2019 20:55
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the only thing that mypillow ad is missing is a trumpy bear
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May 10, 2019 20:56
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WaryWarren posted:I'm all for that as long as I get to see Portland/Austin/Brooklyn burn. joey gibson is that you?????
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May 10, 2019 21:18
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ElGroucho posted:Rural America should just die already some of it, sure. (although in the sense that we should abandon the rural areas and move the population into smaller, denser areas where we can more easily meet their needs to scale back for the climate apocalypse i totally agree)
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May 10, 2019 21:57
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WaryWarren posted:I'm all for that as long as I get to see Portland/Austin/Brooklyn burn. relocate everyone that moved to the East Bay in the past 3 years back to San Jose/SF/Palo Alto and then set that ablaze as well
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May 11, 2019 17:38
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Epic High Five posted:every single redemption story for these fundie chuds is a huge lie, massively and obviously embellished because they know it'll never be questioned Oh like this guy you mean 
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May 11, 2019 17:53
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I like firm pillows...
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marktheando posted:Oh like this guy you mean ya exactly who I was thinking of lol this is pretty normal, fundies literally live in their own carefully crafted world, they're some of the most ultimate reactionaries the world has ever created because they'd rather the world be destroyed than a single thing in their worldview be altered
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May 11, 2019 18:17
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marktheando posted:Oh like this guy you mean
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May 11, 2019 18:29
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WaryWarren posted:I'm all for that as long as I get to see Portland/Austin/Brooklyn burn. Do people have this odd idea that Brooklyn is wall to wall Williamsburg?
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marktheando posted:Oh like this guy you mean Man, I wish I believed in hell so I could rest easy knowing assholes like this are going there. Who still falls for this horseshit in loving 2019? People pack stadiums. It really speaks to our collective desperation.
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May 11, 2019 18:54
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BiggerBoat posted:Man, I wish I believed in hell so I could rest easy knowing assholes like this are going there. It's entertainment. There was a doc I watched a while back about a family of carnies who switched to running tent revivals without changing the nuts and bolts of their operation. Backstage, they were remarkably frank about how much bullshit they trucked in and assumed their audiences mostly just pretended to believe because it was a nice story.
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May 11, 2019 19:01
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Yeah the thing that never seems to click with most people is that logic or truth was never valued. Only narrative. People act clever like 'how is it protecting loves to arrest women for miscarriages??' They just say whatever to fuel the narrative that they know what is best for women. Which is, in their opinion, disenfranchisement (through felony.)
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May 11, 2019 19:12
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Zeroisanumber posted:It's entertainment. There was a doc I watched a while back about a family of carnies who switched to running tent revivals without changing the nuts and bolts of their operation. Backstage, they were remarkably frank about how much bullshit they trucked in and assumed their audiences mostly just pretended to believe because it was a nice story. Not entirely. Not at all really. It's a con designed to bilk people out of their money, sure, but there's also a lot of people that have bought into the "Jesus will heal me" nonsense who are likely broke, alone and entirely out of options that are completely taken advantage of by leer jet flying people of God who fleece old ladies out of their social security checks by selling salvation and "miracles". Suggesting it's "only entertainment" implies that 95% of the audience is in on the joke, the overall work and the sheer spectacle of the thing, WWE style. I think this scummy bullshit is far, FAR different and that your comparison is largely invalid. I sincerely doubt that people who pack these arenas expecting to get a drug high off the power of Christ are doing so because they think they're attending a circus or a magic show. Or that the ones buying "Magical Spring Healing Water" that's straight out of a garden hose off of christian TV shows that air on cable at 2am are doing it to be ironic. It's also a little like saying that Rush Limbaugh is "just an entertainer" when he's raking in millions spewing easily disproven bullshit every day that absolutely effects the way people think and vote and that also helps shape the entire GOP platform, along with lending legitimacy to something as demonstrably stupid and idiotic as faith healers. I am not entertained is what I'm saying.
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May 11, 2019 19:58
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Propaganda is entertainment (and most entertainment propaganda)
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Propaganda is entertainment (and most entertainment propaganda) Deep. So...everything I find entertaining is propaganda and everything that's clearly propaganda is just entertainment then? Or is everything entertainment and also propaganda? WTF are you saying exactly? There is zero basis for a clear cut comparison to be made between something like what WWE is, where everyone is in on the act, and assholes claiming to be Men Of God that can cure cancer and routinely take grandma's SS check by selling tap water for 12 dollars a bottle in the name of Christ. Or are you saying that it's all just degenerated into one big TV show? Because I've enjoyed several films, books and TV shows over the years, several of which have entertained me a great deal, and somehow still see a clear cut difference here. Can you elaborate? Maybe start with something simple, like how liking Batman Begins bled me out of my retirement money and influenced me voting for Bernie Sanders, hoping I could cure my arthritis? I've seen Prince in concert 5 times and was highly entertained. I didn't buy my ticket with the promise of going to heaven.
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May 11, 2019 20:20
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Grape posted:Do people have this odd idea that Brooklyn is wall to wall Williamsburg? Absolutely. Even Williamsburg isn’t wall to wall the Williamsburg they imagine.
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May 11, 2019 20:22
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Zeroisanumber posted:It's entertainment. There was a doc I watched a while back about a family of carnies who switched to running tent revivals without changing the nuts and bolts of their operation. Backstage, they were remarkably frank about how much bullshit they trucked in and assumed their audiences mostly just pretended to believe because it was a nice story. There’s an old documentary about Marjoe Gortner of Starcrash fame that lays out the tent revival operation extremely clearly. All the operators know exactly what they’re doing and have contempt for the crowds they bring in.
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May 11, 2019 20:25
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People weren't in on the act of the WWE until like the 80s and 90s
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May 11, 2019 20:33
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bob dobbs is dead posted:People weren't in on the act of the WWE until like the 80s and 90s Most people knew wrestling was staged as far back as the 1860s. Edit: MassRafTer posted:Matches have been worked for 150 years. Wrestling was banned in the 1860s in Paris for predetermined matches. People would regularly accuse matches of being frauds through the rest of the 19th century. It was widely known to be worked by the 30s, and was obvious visually as the style changed during that time and there were public double crosses.
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bob dobbs is dead posted:People weren't in on the act of the WWE until like the 80s and 90s Didn’t two wrestlers get in trouble with the owner because they drove to an event together and their characters were supposed to be enemies? What an absurd phenomenon. It must have been hard for the performers not to have enormous contempt for the audience.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Didn’t two wrestlers get in trouble with the owner because they drove to an event together and their characters were supposed to be enemies? What an absurd phenomenon. It must have been hard for the performers not to have enormous contempt for the audience. That's happened several times. One story that always amuses me though I forget who it was. One wrestler (a good guy) had his friend over (a bad guy) for dinner with his family. They were feuding on TV at the time; a neighbor came over for a visit and found them eating dinner together so the wrestlers started arguing and "fighting" to keep the storyline up. Kayfabe has been completely dead for at least 20 years but in the 80s and early 90s it was still kind of important to the wrestlers.
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May 11, 2019 20:50
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I can't imagine looking at WWE wrestling and thinking...yep that's real.
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I'm saying people listen to Rush or skull Shaun or whoever to pass the time. It's entertaining to the because it reinforces that they people they don't like are bad. They want to be told good things will happen to them if they are a member of the tribe and that's what they pay for at that prophet show. It seems odd that listening to a guy rant on the radio about how everything is going to poo poo is "fun." Well it isn't actually fun. But people get caught in negative feedback loops. It's the same as 4chan or any garbage corner of the internet. The entertainment is having their feelings validated, even if those feelings are negative
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An insane mind posted:I can't imagine looking at WWE wrestling and thinking...yep that's real.
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May 11, 2019 20:59
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An insane mind posted:I can't imagine looking at WWE wrestling and thinking...yep that's real. Maybe this would change your mind? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvVWfu0Lg9g
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May 11, 2019 21:01
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The ones making money are in on it. The ones giving money are not in on it.
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An insane mind posted:I can't imagine looking at WWE wrestling and thinking...yep that's real. You and John Stossel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrX9Ca7LSyQ
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May 11, 2019 21:10
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Your Gay Uncle posted:You and John Stossel. I'm not saying I don't deserve it, but that's harsh 
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Your Gay Uncle posted:You and John Stossel. Even back in the day John Stossel was the dumbest man alive.
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May 11, 2019 22:19
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canot believe the sporting event that hosted fred from fred the movie for a match is fake
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May 11, 2019 22:21
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Grape posted:Do people have this odd idea that Brooklyn is wall to wall Williamsburg? nobody likes the coastal elites and brooklyn is trendier than soho
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Relevant Tangent posted:nobody likes the coastal elites and brooklyn is trendier than soho Ah yes, the man to man coastal elites of Brooklyn.
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May 11, 2019 23:46
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I feel so loving elite right now. I'm about to lose my job and lose my healthcare, I'm elite as gently caress.
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May 11, 2019 23:51
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is it apocryphal that trump called after vince's limo blew up back in the day thinking his friend died or did that actually happen?
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May 11, 2019 23:52
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Eat This Glob posted:is it apocryphal that trump called after vince's limo blew up back in the day thinking his friend died or did that actually happen? Trump is dumb.
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TontoCorazon posted:I feel so loving elite right now. I'm about to lose my job and lose my healthcare, I'm elite as gently caress. I'm wondering if my job that I'm technically doing as a temp (and being grossly underpaid on because) is actually heading toward becoming real, or if I'm being strung along to be dumped on the curb in a month when the school year ends. Wonder what basic job security must feel like. Love being coastal elite.
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Eat This Glob posted:is it apocryphal that trump called after vince's limo blew up back in the day thinking his friend died or did that actually happen? 1. it's absolutely, completely true 2. lol asking if something dumb about tormap is true in 2019
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