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BigBallChunkyTime posted:He had a feud with Vince McMahon in which they each chose a wrestler to have a match, and of their wrestler lost, then either Vince or Donny would get his head shaved. Vince lost. Since it's the WWE I'm going to assume that all of those things were storylines with staged outcomes. Trump may be the only person in the history of wrasslin to not be in on the joke.
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pseudanonymous posted:The real problem is that Public Schools need help and a rethink, and thats going to be difficult and expensive. The real is that federal government only has pretty limited ways of directly regulating schools and that's not changing without like 3-4 new progressive or leftist supreme court judges.
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Rip Testes posted:I only know of Ben Shapiro through D&D. How big a thing is this little guy beyond these borders? A friend showed me a video of Ben Shapiro talking about how a majority of Muslims agreed with sharia law so I could think about it. It was just after Trump was elected so I told him Ben sounded like an idiot and I didn't want to think about it. The interesting thing about talking to someone that believes the right wing grifters is that the when they point at people on the left who they think are just as bad I have no idea who they're talking about. Gaunab fucked around with this message at 06:57 on May 12, 2019 |
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pseudanonymous posted:The real problem is that Public Schools need help and a rethink, and thats going to be difficult and expensive. public schools become a point of contact for the social safety net and the broader citizenry because of their local and compulsory nature, so they end up bearing the burden of a lot of other failed systems. like how schools are the main way to feed a lot of poor kids, such that some schools continue to serve lunches in the summer it's similar to how libraries are de facto homeless shelters, since libraries can't legally kick anyone out who isn't causing trouble. when other parts of government fail to handle need, the educational system is there through its ubiquity Mr. Fall Down Terror fucked around with this message at 07:27 on May 12, 2019 |
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luxury handset posted:public schools become a point of contact for the social safety net and the broader citizenry because of their local and compulsory nature, so they end up bearing the burden of a lot of other failed systems. like how schools are the main way to feed a lot of poor kids, such that some schools continue to serve lunches in the summer Its funny that you mention these two things together because my county library branches host lunch in the library which is free meals over the summer (provided by the school district) for any minors.
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Uncle Ulty posted:And then they had to retract the Vince McMahon death storyline a week or two later because an active member of their roster killed his family and himself, and continuing a "Who Killed the Boss?" storyline was too low for even them to go after that. And why not ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKGgvPaNP8Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQbaJg6L0Vo
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1127283257383555072 For someone as honest and true as he claims to be, the fact he gets audited every time a moth farts should say a lot....not to mention he seems to be under audit all year long
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Rip Testes posted:I only know of Ben Shapiro through D&D. How big a thing is this little guy beyond these borders? In addition to what others have said, Ben is also really popular with the kind of folks who like to storm into mosques with automatic weaponry and shoot the place up, like the Christchurch loony, or a kid from Quebec who killed six people and injured 19 others during a prayer service. During his deposition the kid quoted Ben Shapiro talking points word-for-word about how much of a scary existential threat Muslims were, and Ben’s twitter account and website were among the most accessed sites in his internet history. Because Ben loves to code talk all the time about how Muslims need to die in order for white people to be safe. Ben gets really uncomfortable and mad when you point out that multiple people have died directly because of things he has said or written.
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nine-gear crow posted:Ben gets really uncomfortable and mad when you point out that multiple people have died directly because of things he has said or written. I think making Ben Shapiro uncomfortable is up there with charity when it comes to mitzvot.
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FuturePastNow posted:Since it's the WWE I'm going to assume that all of those things were storylines with staged outcomes. Trump may be the only person in the history of wrasslin to not be in on the joke. Nah nobody told Japanese women it was fake which is why they try their best to murder each other in the ring.
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Cable Guy posted:I haven't seen the full interview posted, so here it is: Man, his cadence is super annoying. It's like the verbal equivalent of a run-on sentence. He pauses at super odd times and then rams words together, and stops when his emphasis sounds like he's going to continue. I wonder if this is intentional, if it's a practiced technique to throw off someone trying to understand him in real time. He also tripped over his own tongue a lot in this interview. One thing of note is that when called out, he tries to weasel out on a technicality. He claims the quotes of his are taken out of context to make him look bad, but never actually corrects the context. He tries to nitpick quotes as mis-quotes, saying they got a word wrong, even when the word in question doesn't change the context. And if the quote is accurate then he says "but that's not what I meant". So he retroactively redefines the context to shut down the questioner. Like when he said Palestinians he really meant Hamas, but since Hamas was elected by Palestinians, it's okay to interchange the words. If he wasn't so disingenuous it'd be kind of impressive. Another example is how he took issue with the Georgia abortion ban being characterized as stone age and barbaric. He did admit at one point that he agrees 100% with the ban but spent the whole time talking about how those adjectives make the interviewer a liberal and therefore the question is unfair. Edit: Now that I think about it, if the interviewer is notoriously right wing, that was probably meant as a softball question where the expected answer was "Actually abortion is what's barbaric, this law protects life blah blah blah" and the interview would have moved on from there. I also like his new tactic of saying he has a list of terrible poo poo he's said that he now disavows, implying that whatever terrible poo poo he's being called out on is on the list. I'm thinking it wasn't. LloydDobler fucked around with this message at 11:58 on May 12, 2019 |
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I like how he dismisses stuff from multiple angles so you can pick what's personally more convincing. "What I said about Arabs was dumb. Also, I didn't mean that. I said I meant (lies about what he said he meant)."
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UK conservatives don't give a gently caress about abortions, FWIW. Neil is (at best) fascist adjacent, but he's not trying to softball, that'd be a genuinely interrogatory question. Almost everyone here, anywhere on the spectrum, thinks US fundies are insane, and the obsession with abortion pretty bizarre
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FuturePastNow posted:Since it's the WWE I'm going to assume that all of those things were storylines with staged outcomes. Trump may be the only person in the history of wrasslin to not be in on the joke. After the match, he took a Stone Cold Stunner like an absolute pussy.
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pseudanonymous posted:I don't know in little Benny's case, but conservative orgs often manipulate the NYT bestseller list by buying books in bulk then giving them away. Holy poo poo, I wondered how that worked. Anecdotes not being evidence and all, but many of the conservative idiots I’ve met weren’t exactly “book people”, and I wondered how they managed to get so many sales. Young Freud posted:It's so common on the NYT Bestseller that they designate those titles inflated with bulk purchases with a 🗡as to set them apart from titles bought through retail, online, etc. They should probably change their methodology to account for individual sales only, but I can imagine the Fox News teams shrieking on-air about liberals removing conservative books from the best sellers list even though they “truly sold the most books”. Also it’s the NYT and they somehow always seem to gently caress up everything.
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https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1127385723366268928 https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1127392154446385154 Dick Trauma fucked around with this message at 13:24 on May 12, 2019 |
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that stuff happened two days ago, can we stop having 24/7 ben shapiro talk in this thread?
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Stickman posted:Jesus, you guys weren’t kidding. He’s like a hyperactive ground squirrel sucking helium. "How dare you ask me questions about specific things I've written and said, sir? I've had enough of these one-sided, slanted 'gotcha' questions addressing my actual words."
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Crabtree posted:No, the few that I see cling to a job that wants them gone but can't risk losing them, and those that try to apply quickly find themselves too feeble, brain wormed or entitled to do the poo poo work that's expected of them. Even as a Walmart greeter. I think we should put every boomer in a power-generating furnace, including all of our parents. However, I also see how easy it can be to find yourself suddenly 60, with no skills and no way to take care of yourself, especially if you're a woman and spent the majority of your adult life being a housewife to a now-dead man. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Ben Shapiro is the World's Tiniest Debate Pedant
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America's Tallest, Angriest Brownie, yelling in an almost inaudibly high pitch from atop a pebble next to his toadstool abode.
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LloydDobler posted:Man, his cadence is super annoying. It's like the verbal equivalent of a run-on sentence. He pauses at super odd times and then rams words together, and stops when his emphasis sounds like he's going to continue. I wonder if this is intentional, if it's a practiced technique to throw off someone trying to understand him in real time. He also tripped over his own tongue a lot in this interview. This is kind of Ben's style. He knows his poo poo won't hold up under scrutiny so he crams as many words into a speedy run on sentence he can hoping that he can just overwhelm any opposition with too much to unpack. That way some of his poo poo can slip past and the rest be subtly ignored when the response tries to tackle all of it
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FizFashizzle posted:hoover was incredibly smart and made his fortune with a loving chinese treasure map He saved millions of civilians from starving in the aftermath of the Great War as well.
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eke out posted:that stuff happened two days ago, can we stop having 24/7 ben shapiro talk in this thread? I feel it is worth really dissecting how Ben Shapiro works because once he flames out there will be another one right behind him using he exact same tactics. His "style" of argument is just the latest version of the Gish Gallop. He and Jordan Peterson have been honing it and particularly have made great use of the "that's out of context" lie to deflect any attempt to nail him down on past statements. Fun anecdote though - some high school kids tried to quote him and Jordan Peterson in a debate and got DQed for quoting white supremacists.
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Shifty Pony posted:I feel it is worth really dissecting how Ben Shapiro works because once he flames out there will be another one right behind him using he exact same tactics. there's a whole right wing media thread with ben's name in the title right now though. 48 hours of "lol his voice is so high" in this thread is plenty
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Good to know all you got to do to win a debate against Ben Shapiro is just ask him questions about things he's said that aren't consistent and he'll self destruct.
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Doctor Butts posted:Good to know all you got to do to win a debate against Ben Shapiro is just ask him questions about things he's said that aren't consistent and he'll self destruct. He’ll still claim his stumbling blocks were “covered extensively in the past”. The only way to successfully debate Shapiro is to ignore him. Or a locker.
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SocketWrench posted:This is kind of Ben's style. He knows his poo poo won't hold up under scrutiny so he crams as many words into a speedy run on sentence he can hoping that he can just overwhelm any opposition with too much to unpack. That way some of his poo poo can slip past and the rest be subtly ignored when the response tries to tackle all of it The term for this is the Gish Gallop, after Duane Gish, an evolution denier
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Eke Out is right. Enough Ben Shapiro chat itt now.
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Shifty Pony posted:Fun anecdote though - some high school kids tried to quote him and Jordan Peterson in a debate and got DQed for quoting white supremacists. E: second after I hit post I realised you must mean disqualified, sorry. Still annoying when something isn't usually an acronym.
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FizFashizzle posted:hoover was incredibly smart and made his fortune with a loving chinese treasure map The 16th Century German metallurgy text translated by him and his wife is probably one of my favorite books that I own. Even ignoring how badass the Hoovers were*, it's a fascinating piece of science history and the translation is really good. * Lou Henry Hoover was a geologist and linguist who would converse with her husband in Mandarin if she thought people were eavesdropping
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jojoinnit posted:Dairy Queened? DQ'ed isn't a common acronym?
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:DQ'ed isn't a common acronym? Yeah, but usually it stands for Disquonnected.
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LloydDobler posted:Man, his cadence is super annoying. It's like the verbal equivalent of a run-on sentence. He pauses at super odd times and then rams words together, and stops when his emphasis sounds like he's going to continue. I wonder if this is intentional, if it's a practiced technique to throw off someone trying to understand him in real time. He also tripped over his own tongue a lot in this interview. This is the first time I've actually heard him speak and he reminds me of Jonah Ryan from Veep. BigBallChunkyTime posted:After the match, he took a Stone Cold Stunner like an absolute pussy. He rivals Linda McMahon for taking the worst stunner ever. Linda McMahon. On a side note, can we stop having people in government who have taken Stone Cold Stunners? 1glitch0 fucked around with this message at 16:30 on May 12, 2019 |
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1glitch0 posted:On a side note, can we stop having people in government who have taken Stone Cold Stunners? On the contrary, everyone in government should receive a Stone Cold Stunner.
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