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Rhyno posted:The Beef is generally what ruins CS. The Beef is mostly fine in the movie. The movie's biggest problem is that the script feels like three different ones mashed together. You can tell that at some point John Hurt's character was intended to be Abner Ravenwood, and Ray Winstone's constantly switching sides got really loving old after his, like, fifth double-cross.
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Let's not forget that CS includes "Mutt Williams," another protagonist named after a dog who happens to be Indy's son. I know Spielberg kind of threw Lucas under the bus for saying he trusted him in choosing the movie's macguffin, but Spielberg's unconditional love of Shia LaBeouf sure didn't help.
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May 11, 2019 00:02
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Bogus Adventure posted:Let's not forget that CS includes "Mutt Williams," another protagonist named after a dog who happens to be Indy's son. I'd say a lot of the hatred towards Shia LaBeouf did come from what appeared like a co-ordinated effort by Hollywood to make him THE BIGGEST STAR. It really felt like he was omnipresent and part of every major film 10 years ago, and I'd put a lot of that resentment down to pushback against that.
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May 11, 2019 00:10
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Yeah CS was the height of Shiamania and it was so, so forced.
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May 11, 2019 00:29
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Sodomy Hussein posted:Yeah CS was the height of Shiamania and it was so, so forced. It’s kinda funny that the young man being pushed so hard turned out to be a supreme weirdo.
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May 11, 2019 00:38
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Shia can be a good actor. He was just kind of an odd choice to include in an Indiana Jones film that was already full of very odd choices.
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May 11, 2019 00:42
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:It was Temple, but Raiders is honestly even gorier so I'm kind of surprised. The story goes Transformers added the word "poo poo" to avoid a G Rating.
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May 11, 2019 01:32
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Shia is great in American Honey even if that movie is way too goddamn long
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chitoryu12 posted:It’s kinda funny that the young man being pushed so hard turned out to be a supreme weirdo. And people actually liked him more after he did.
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May 11, 2019 03:10
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Somebody mentioned that Raiders is the more violent movie overall, but I wonder if the much more oppressive atmosphere of ToD (combined with the heart extraction and Gremlins) contributed to PG-13 more than anything.
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May 11, 2019 03:18
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Ghost Leviathan posted:And people actually liked him more after he did. Shia tries super, transparently hard to be taken seriously as an Ac-tor, but you can tell he's genuine about it. I respect the dude.
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May 11, 2019 05:58
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I like Shia simply because he cameos in this video in a great Citizen Kane reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0u4M6vppCI It shows a lot of self-awareness.
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May 11, 2019 06:43
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Shia LeBeouf is cool, and it always really bothered me that internet centrists decided he was persona non grata because he dared to make an art installation that says Trump is bad. If you don’t like when artists are up their own rear end a bit, I have bad news: you can’t be a fan of any artist ever.
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May 11, 2019 07:40
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I thought he was good in Fury.
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Pirate Jet posted:Shia LeBeouf is cool, and it always really bothered me that internet centrists decided he was persona non grata because he dared to make an art installation that says Trump is bad. Wasn't that the one that channers turned into capture the flag
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May 11, 2019 10:56
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https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1126220242609426433 I mean if trump is still president
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Crimpolioni posted:I thought he was good in Fury. He was excellent in Fury.
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May 11, 2019 13:23
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which is funny cuz 10 years ago he would have played the role of the green kid
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Alan Smithee posted:https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1126220242609426433 Yeah, he actually apologized and faced consequences.
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May 11, 2019 16:27
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Skwirl posted:Yeah, he actually apologized and faced consequences. p sweet consequence getting a talkshow, tho!
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BioEnchanted posted:I like Shia simply because he cameos in this video in a great Citizen Kane reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0u4M6vppCI Somehow Shia LeBeouf turned into a legit post-post-modernist performance artist. He works as a member of the trio https://labeoufronkkoturner.com/.
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Squinty posted:Somehow Shia LeBeouf turned into a legit post-post-modernist performance artist. He works as a member of the trio https://labeoufronkkoturner.com/. It's like the comeback from the pilot episode of Steven Universe: "You're a joke..." "At least people LIKE jokes!"
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Skwirl posted:Yeah, he actually apologized and faced consequences. He's also a Bush, and you can only ever fail up in that family.
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May 11, 2019 20:05
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Sex Trafficking Mars the Mystique of Cannes Film Festival: "This Crime Is Significantly Underreported" https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/cannes-has-a-sex-trafficking-problem-metoo-era-1208261 Both Teachers’ Unions Oppose Bill That Would Make Sex with Students a Crime https://goodschoolhunting.org/2019/04/teachers-unions-oppose-bill-make-sex-students-crime.html Mickey Rooney Allegedly Auditioned Women for Roles That Didn’t Exist and “Wore Out the Casting Couch” https://decider.com/2019/04/25/mickey-rooney-casting-couch-fake-auditions/ Ex-pope says sexual revolution led to abuse crisis, sparking debate http://news.trust.org/item/20190411184922-bh00c
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Krankenstyle posted:p sweet consequence getting a talkshow, tho! He got fired from the job he had at the time. I'm not saying he deserves a second chance or anything, I just can't bring myself to be upset about this beyond the baseline anger I have every time another mediocre white dude gets a talkshow the same week Busy Phillips lost hers.
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May 11, 2019 23:10
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I hope Mickey Rooney’s Star turn as “embarrassing jap face” in breakfast at Tiffany’s won’t be marred by such allegations
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Skwirl posted:He got fired from the job he had at the time. I'm not saying he deserves a second chance or anything, I just can't bring myself to be upset about this beyond the baseline anger I have every time another mediocre white dude gets a talkshow the same week Busy Phillips lost hers. Unless I’m remembering wrong, Trump seemed to be leading that conversation, so it seems okay that he’s not persona non grata for life because he was laughing along with a far more powerful person’s disgusting comments. Still bad, but maybe not “gently caress him forever” bad, especially if he apologized.
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Alan Smithee posted:I hope Mickey Rooney’s Star turn as “embarrassing jap face” in breakfast at Tiffany’s won’t be marred by such allegations The article calls him "Hollywood's Golden Boy" which is so dumb if you know his history of affairs and money problems, which anyone checking his Wikipedia would see. He was on every tabloid poo poo list by the end of the 40s.
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Sucrose posted:Unless I’m remembering wrong, Trump seemed to be leading that conversation, so it seems okay that he’s not persona non grata for life because he was laughing along with a far more powerful person’s disgusting comments. Still bad, but maybe not “gently caress him forever” bad, especially if he apologized.
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May 12, 2019 02:59
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i guess its ok that he gets a job but maybe not national television?
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Sodomy Hussein posted:Temple of Doom was the shite Indy movie before Crystal Skull blew it the gently caress out of the water. Temple is the most pulp of all of the original trilogy. It is also, by proxy, the most racist.
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Zogo posted:Sex Trafficking Mars the Mystique of Cannes Film Festival: "This Crime Is Significantly Underreported" I forgot that Pope Palpatine was still alive.
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Detective No. 27 posted:I heard it was a combination of Temple of Doom and Gremlins. see I always heard it was Poltergeist, which leads me to suspect this is all apocryphal
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:see I always heard it was Poltergeist, which leads me to suspect this is all apocryphal It's pretty well-documented that it was Temple of Doom and Gremlins. Both were movies with a lot of graphic violence but weren't quite bad enough to receive an R rating, leading to complaints from parents about what their kids were being exposed to.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:see I always heard it was Poltergeist, which leads me to suspect this is all apocryphal I suspect Jaws, Raiders, and Poltergeist laid the groundwork for the issue, and Temple and Gremlins just made people go "okay this has to give in one direction or another."
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The real reality will turn out to be that the corporations that were now buying movie studios left and right knew there was a space between "adult" R movies and "family" PG movies that could precisely target the prime demographic of teenagers, without having to put things in that might turn them off from a PG movie and peppering in "exciting" things like limited cursing or a quick peek at a titty. Studios then came up with PG-13 with the MPAA, and looked at the most recent "scandalous" PG movies and told everyone "oh it's because of these". Which, given what I've read about Hollywood over its entire history, is probably what actually happened.
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chitoryu12 posted:It's pretty well-documented that it was Temple of Doom and Gremlins. Both were movies with a lot of graphic violence but weren't quite bad enough to receive an R rating, leading to complaints from parents about what their kids were being exposed to. I always heard that they were going to get an R rating but Spielberg lobbied to get it knocked down to PG since since R rated movies don’t get merchandising tie ins. Everyone was chasing the Star Wars toy money at the time. I was really young but I remember Gremlins having a bunch of tie in promotions with KFC.
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MonsieurChoc posted:I forgot that Pope Palpatine was still alive. He lives by the power of the dark side.  LORD OF BOOTY posted:I suspect Jaws, Raiders, and Poltergeist laid the groundwork for the issue, and Temple and Gremlins just made people go "okay this has to give in one direction or another." Raiders of the Lost Temple of Gremlins Rated PG. Concerned Parent: "What did you expose my child to?!" Macdeo Lurjtux posted:I was really young but I remember Gremlins having a bunch of tie in promotions with KFC. A bucket of original recipe gremlins would probably taste OK.
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YouTube Star Gets 10 Years for Coaxing Underage Female Fans to Share Sexually Explicit Videos https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/youtube-star-gets-10-years-223224908.html Parents Accuse D.C. Synagogue of Enabling ‘Systemic, Regular’ Sexual Abuse of Preschoolers https://news.yahoo.com/parents-accuse-d-c-synagogue-154915073.html Chicago Prosecutor Kim Foxx Subpoenaed over Handling of Smollett Case https://news.yahoo.com/chicago-prosecutor-kim-foxx-subpoenaed-154030931.html Female MMA fighter attacks man who allegedly exposed himself to her on the beach https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/female-mma-fighter-attacks-man-allegedly-exposed-beach-135727447.html
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Zogo posted:Female MMA fighter attacks man who allegedly exposed himself to her on the beach Lol, she owns and I hope she made him poo poo himself.
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