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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:The film even implicitly says "there's nothing we can do to fix that, so you workers just have to do better" That's the crazy thing, normally this kind of film leads into "and here are the QA procedures we follow to make sure these errors don't happen/are caught". This one just ends with "sometimes we gently caress up, oh well". Real goddamn mystery why they went out of business.
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Probably a hefty dose of "we beat the nazis, anything else is easy" mentality that allowed them to not bother trying to improve.
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RandomPauI posted:Is there anything good online about the management failures? All I hear about are striking workers. I'm not sure how easy it is to find online, but the BBC had a programme called Das Auto - The Germans, Their Cars and Us a few years ago that looked a bit more closely at this, ostensibly driven by the question "Why do Brits now drive German cars, instead of British cars?". The documentary came in a wake of similar "Germany"-related topics pre-Brexit vote, which was a bit odd, but it was really rather interesting beyond just that point.
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What the cock is that poo poo?
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Cojawfee posted:Probably a hefty dose of "we beat the nazis, anything else is easy" mentality that allowed them to not bother trying to improve. A mindset that is pervasive to this day.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/12/steep-slide-closes-spain-day-after-opening-injuries-costa-del-sol Article headline says enough. Video of some Slide Survivors on the page too!
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spankmeister posted:A mindset that is pervasive to this day. Never mind that doing so financially ruined Britain, which had already been in a shaky state from "winning" the first world war.
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Cojawfee posted:Probably a hefty dose of "we beat the nazis British Leyland was a Soviet company?
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Jerry Cotton posted:British Leyland was a Soviet company? They aren't the US either, but it doesn't stop British people from claiming they did it on their own.
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https://i.imgur.com/O7Ieat5.gifv (Based on the comments, he was not injured, except probably his pride)
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Japanese industry's great innovation was realizing that if it is at all physically possible for your workers to fit the parts together wrong, ya done hosed up.
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is the OSHA that, if he had tried it from the other side, maybe the tool would've gone flying and not him?
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Autistic Edgy Guy posted:is the OSHA that, if he had tried it from the other side, maybe the tool would've gone flying and not him? The OSHA is that he shouldn't have tried to remove that cover when the water had already been turned on.
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Bad Munki posted:https://i.imgur.com/O7Ieat5.gifv Weird. I mean, before he removed the hose connection cap, it was abundantly clear that the whole hydrant was under pressure.
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He was apparently trying to close it, but it was already cross threaded, so instead of closing, it popped clean off. The OSHA here, I would say, is loving with it at all under pressure.
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Bad Munki posted:He was apparently trying to close it, but it was already cross threaded, so instead of closing, it popped clean off. The OSHA here, I would say, is loving with it at all under pressure. Lock out tag out strikes again.
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Cojawfee posted:Probably a hefty dose of "we beat the nazis, anything else is easy" mentality that allowed them to not bother trying to improve. This is also explains a lot of US post-war home repair. You see a lot of poo poo in old houses. So the moral of that Leland film is "Yeah, we have some good blokes but we can't be bothered to figure out our processes in a rational way so do as best you can and hope your fuckups don't kill two customers and a baby."
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Cojawfee posted:Probably a hefty dose of "we beat the nazis, anything else is easy" mentality that allowed them to not bother trying to improve. You also had the wartime mentality of 'mend and make do, or do without'. Basically 'ehhh, it's not irreversibly hosed, it's still good guv' writ large on the entire country. It worked great when your factory output was getting shot out of the sky within the month, and your vehicles tended to attract machine gun fire within a year. Not much of a warranty period to consider there.
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Saw some nice OSHA thread Saturday morning: beat-to-hell first gen. Scion Xb on fat little spoked chrome wheels minus the rear passenger wheel, which was a donut spare. Behind this is attached a four foot long flatbed trailer. The kind of contaption that doesn't even have lights, just reflectors, and no brakes. Crudely lashed in a heap on said trailer is a refrigerator, riding lawn mower, filing cabinet, and a few hundred pounds of scrap metal. Dude weaves through traffic down one of the shittiest roads in Tampa dragging the safety chains and scraping the towbar on every bump before merging onto the interstate going up-hill. My desire to get home overrode morbid curiosity this once, it seemed like a bad idea to be behind that death trap.Jerry Cotton posted:British Leyland was a Soviet company? Sounds like an ironic Thather-ite statement /s. Another poster brought up a Finnish thing. I'd believe you over any other when it comes to these things. Is this true? Sormus posted: In Finland the classiest places are easily identified by their blue lighting in the toilets. Harder to do drugs if you cant find your veins, they claim.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:That's the crazy thing, normally this kind of film leads into "and here are the QA procedures we follow to make sure these errors don't happen/are caught". This one just ends with "sometimes we gently caress up, oh well". Real goddamn mystery why they went out of business. I’m honestly curious if they hired someone to write a normal safety ad script and then some C-levels just ripped off the last 6 pages before okaying it
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aejix posted:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/12/steep-slide-closes-spain-day-after-opening-injuries-costa-del-sol https://twitter.com/SrCaronte/status/1126883921726181377 Not as lethal as that goon zipline, but I guess you gotta let some kids live
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Jerry Cotton posted:British Leyland was a Soviet company? Ha, if only, then their poo poo would have at least worked. During the Cold War Lada had dealerships in New Zealand of all places (the Soviet Union traded cars for NZ meat and butter). Their reliability made them especially popular on remote islands.
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IPCRESS posted:But you see his extensive experience with live action role playing makes him the best possible person to draw conclusions of this sort, furthermore... a year or two ago I spent some time while I was home building medieval crossbows to sell at renaissance faires and holy poo poo i learned first hand how larpers are really loving insufferable people about historical poo poo
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oh btw osha thread ive spent the last 4 years going to an art school with a fairly good sculpture department which means ive spent a lot of time with other students in wood and metal shops and have some pretty fucken osha stories if you folks are interested
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Kanine posted:oh btw osha thread ive spent the last 4 years going to an art school with a fairly good sculpture department which means ive spent a lot of time with other students in wood and metal shops and have some pretty fucken osha stories if you folks are interested  (But maybe with a bit more capitalization and punctuation.)
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Touch-typing is hard without all 10 fingers.
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Grundulum posted:But maybe with a bit more capitalization and punctuation don't listen to this nerd this is gibbus
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TheMaskedUgly posted:don't listen to this nerd this is gibbus
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Recently I bought a cheap thread wear gauge, a very simple device similar to traditional tire pressure gauges. I was surprised when it was "Made in England" instead of China. But then I started thinking that nowadays China doesn't need to waste their resources for something that simple, they can use their time for things much more ambitious. Maybe that gauge is something a small english factory is still able to manufacture.
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Saukkis posted:Recently I bought a cheap thread wear gauge, a very simple device similar to traditional tire pressure gauges. I was surprised when it was "Made in England" instead of China. But then I started thinking that nowadays China doesn't need to waste their resources for something that simple, they can use their time for things much more ambitious. Maybe that gauge is something a small english factory is still able to manufacture. China has zero problems making cogs my dude.
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shame on an IGA posted:Japanese industry's great innovation was realizing that if it is at all physically possible for your workers to fit the parts together wrong, ya done hosed up. There's a famous moment from WW2 when Packard was licensed to produce Merlin engines. quote:There are many obvious challenges posed by producing a British-designed engine in America. Just the task of converting all of the measurements from imperial to US Standard units was daunting enough. This job was made even more difficult by the unprecedented complexity of the Merlin. The 1,649 cubic inch V-12 engine is comprised of more than 14,000 individual parts (knoll that!). It was, and still is, often called “a watchmaker’s nightmare. chitoryu12 fucked around with this message at 16:02 on May 13, 2019 |
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chitoryu12 posted:There's a famous moment from WW2 when Packard was licensed to produce Merlin engines. That's a lotta loving parts.
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Lou Takki posted:That's a lotta loving parts.  It's a lotta loving engine.
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Methylethylaldehyde posted:You also had the wartime mentality of 'mend and make do, or do without'. use it up wear it out make mend or do without
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GotLag posted:During the Cold War Lada had dealerships in New Zealand of all places (the Soviet Union traded cars for NZ meat and butter). Their reliability made them especially popular on remote islands. oh also there's someone in AI from NZ with a Lada Riva rebuild thread. 
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:use it up technologic technologic
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oontz oontz oontz oontz
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Use it wear it make it do it up out mend without
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:use it up ChickenOfTomorrow posted:use it up Rawhide ChickenOfTomorrow posted:use it up ChickenOfTomorrow posted:use it up Raw-hide!!
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