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Contrasts... I spoke to the guy in charge of GW's paint ranges yesterday. I looked at the examples. I watched their painters work with them. I tried them myself. I am sensibly chuckling at the luddites in this thread sneering at or dismissing them, or calling them 'inks'.
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Its optional paint, no one is forcing it on anyone beyong shameful looks and head shaking ots silly, its easy mode batch painting.
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May 13, 2019 17:35
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They are a massive, in some ways game changing, upgrade to the toolset of painters at all levels below the already exceptional. And perhaps even to them given that the Eavy Metal team are incorporating them into aspects of their work. I would say this is a more revolutionary change than when we got the first Shade-type paints like Devlan Mud. The people reflexively sneering without even having seen them first hand, let alone tried them, are fools.
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May 13, 2019 17:51
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Vince Venturella mentioned that even the 'eavy Metal studio painters have been using the Contrast paint a fair amount even if only just to get a good base layer to work from. Here's his piece on them (paint talk starts at 35:30) https://youtu.be/r2RsR91fuy8
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May 13, 2019 17:51
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:They are a massive, in some ways game changing, upgrade to the toolset of painters at all levels below the already exceptional. And perhaps even to them given that the Eavy Metal team are incorporating them into aspects of their work. I would say this is a more revolutionary change than when we got the first Shade-type paints like Devlan Mud. source your quotes please.
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May 13, 2019 18:01
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The speedpaint scheme for all the gsc I did recently starts out with grey undercoat/heavy blue wash/heavy light grey drybrush, which basically produces all of the depth on my line infantry. An actual set of paints designed to do that in fewer steps with a lot of different colours seems like an extremely useful thing.
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May 13, 2019 18:02
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Zasze posted:source your quotes please. It reads like a sales pitch indeed.
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May 13, 2019 18:04
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ITT: Mad about people being excited about new paints.
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May 13, 2019 18:23
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I can't wait to try out the new paints. They seem good and will establish a good baseline to build from in less time.
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May 13, 2019 18:24
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Zuul the Cat posted:I can't wait to try out the new paints. They seem good and will establish a good baseline to build from in less time. wow look at this rube, being excited about something, I bet you're a paid shill!
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May 13, 2019 18:25
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Sounds like they've also done a new version of 'Ardcoat that will be a brush-on matte varnish. Source: that Vince Venturella video @ 46:44. Edit: Not clear if this is a total replacement for the current glossy 'Ardcoat or just a new version for protecting your Contrast finishes. I hope they don't remove the current glossy one, as it's useful for transfer stuff. Gunder fucked around with this message at 18:32 on May 13, 2019 |
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May 13, 2019 18:26
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New Warhammer paints are fun.
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May 13, 2019 18:26
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Inspector_666 posted:wow look at this rube, being excited about something, I bet you're a paid shill! I wish I could get paid for being excited about small plastic space mans on a dead gay comedy forum. That sounds incredible.
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May 13, 2019 18:34
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Groetgaffel posted:I wish I could get paid for being excited about small plastic space mans on a dead gay comedy forum. Eeyup, sign me up for that. Heck, they could even pay me in models and paint for that part.
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May 13, 2019 18:41
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Lizard Combatant posted:These babies are rolling out of space Detroit non stop. There it is, I’ve found my warhams backstory OC do not steal. My army is an explorator contingent from forge world Detroit, and the kill team is a team of specialists on a quest for the legendary and long lost carburettor STC.
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May 13, 2019 18:50
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inscrutable horse posted:There it is, I’ve found my warhams backstory OC do not steal. My army is an explorator contingent from forge world Detroit, and the kill team is a team of specialists on a quest for the legendary and long lost carburettor STC. They found one for mufflers and had it destroyed immediately as heretical.
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May 13, 2019 18:53
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LingcodKilla posted:It reads like a sales pitch indeed. It's almost as if I were speaking about my first hand observation and experience, in contrast to baseless internet cynicism from the usual chorus of worthless shitposting weirdos.
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May 13, 2019 18:57
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:It's almost as if I were speaking about my first hand observation and experience, in contrast to baseless internet cynicism from the usual chorus of worthless shitposting weirdos. Ain’t nothing wrong with that but your sound like an excited lab telling his owner how awesome the new glow in the dark tennis ball is. GAMECHANGER!
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May 13, 2019 19:07
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:It's almost as if I were speaking about my first hand observation and experience, in contrast to baseless internet cynicism from the usual chorus of worthless shitposting weirdos. But have you considered that GW are, in fact, bad? It will all become clear when you read this 5000 word post from Dakka Dakka;
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May 13, 2019 19:10
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LingcodKilla posted:Ain’t nothing wrong with that but your sound like an excited lab telling his owner how awesome the new glow in the dark tennis ball is. Have you considered that people can be excited for things?
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May 13, 2019 19:13
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Booley posted:Have you considered that people can be excited for things? Beep boop. No.
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May 13, 2019 19:17
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LingcodKilla posted:Ain’t nothing wrong with that but your sound like an excited lab telling his owner how awesome the new glow in the dark tennis ball is. What did you think of the contrast paint when you used it?
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May 13, 2019 19:22
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Can we not turn this into the death thread? My controversial position is that people can be excited for things (I am stoked about that new ad mech vehicle) BUT ALSO that they can be stoked without telling people who aren't that they're "fools." About that admech vehicle, what is the likelihood that the ramp is a moving part? I don't think any of the GW models I have have moving parts, but it would be completely sweet if you could put that landing ramp up and down as part of the design. e: sweet, even more pumped now. Seldom Posts fucked around with this message at 19:35 on May 13, 2019 |
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May 13, 2019 19:30
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Seldom Posts posted:Can we not turn this into the death thread? I'd say its pretty likely, the land raider, rhino, chimera, devilfish and i think wave serpent all have openable doors.
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May 13, 2019 19:31
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Two Beans posted:New Warhammer paints are fun.  I've mostly switched over to Vallejo paints because they make basically every shade of brown, tan, and OD green you could ever want for historicals, but I still use the gods'-own-ambrosia that are Agrax Earthshade and Seraphim Sepia regularly. I am admittedly intrigued by these new paints. In particular I think they'll work great for easy flesh effects. I'm also interested to experiment with them over zenithal priming. They look a little desaturated, but I'll bet multiple carefully-applied coats could really give them a nice depth of color. Has anyone experimented with >gasp< mixing contrasts with normal paints? Does that even work? Are their media compatible? If so, that could open up all sorts of possibilities. I nominate richyp to start mixing them with Baharroth Blue just to see what sort of magic happens.
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May 13, 2019 19:44
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Seldom Posts posted:
I get people not being interested or excited. I have no issue with that. However, people speaking from a position of ignorance dismissing people who have tried something, especially when they are doing it because they don't want other people to have an easy way of doing something, or it is coming from a company they don't like, are absolutely being foolish. Especially when it's someone like Lingcodkilla who only ever posts in these threads to lie about Orks and pour piss on anyone else's enthusiasm for the hobby. Lovely Joe Stalin fucked around with this message at 19:48 on May 13, 2019 |
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May 13, 2019 19:44
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Ilor posted:I see what you did there. According to Vince Venturella's video, that probably wouldn't work because all of the unique properties of the Contrast medium would be erased. There is apparently a new medium akin to Lahmian medium that will be sold, so it's possible that opens up some possibilities. If nothing else, I bet you could mix inks with the new medium to create new tones.
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May 13, 2019 19:49
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Because no one has ever spoken from a position of ignorance on the internet.
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May 13, 2019 19:49
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For_Great_Justice posted:Because no one has ever spoken from a position of ignorance on the internet. Your entire posting history would disprove that.
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May 13, 2019 19:50
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LingcodKilla posted:Ain’t nothing wrong with that but your sound like an excited lab telling his owner how awesome the new glow in the dark tennis ball is. Ok but everyone on earth prefers the lab to the mopey forums poster.
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May 13, 2019 19:57
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:Your entire posting history would disprove that. gently caress, now I'm witness to a murder
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May 13, 2019 19:57
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Eifert Posting posted:Ok but everyone on earth prefers the lab to the mopey forums poster. 
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May 13, 2019 19:58
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:I get people not being interested or excited. I have no issue with that. However, people speaking from a position of ignorance dismissing people who have tried something, especially when they are doing it because they don't want other people to have an easy way of doing something, or it is coming from a company they don't like, are absolutely being foolish. Opinions are not lies. Just like your opinions I don’t take at face value because you sound like a salesperson. Plenty of other people managed to say how neat they are without coming across as a shill. I’ll try out a grey or red version for my marines when I see them at the store. Might be the the help I need to motivate me to finish my primaris. Or not.
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May 13, 2019 20:00
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:I get people not being interested or excited. I have no issue with that. However, people speaking from a position of ignorance dismissing people who have tried something, especially when they are doing it because they don't want other people to have an easy way of doing something, or it is coming from a company they don't like, are absolutely being foolish. I think you're taking this a little seriously, dude. I'm skeptical. Not that the paints could be God's gift, but in a "can this brand new product that I've never touched replace years worth of investment in painting stuff'. It's great for new painters, is probably great for my pile of unpainted stuff, blah blah. But I also have an airbrush, and way too many reaper/scale/vallejo paints to jump on this train wholesale, especially since it looks like it may need (probably overpriced) GW primer. It's just skepticism that a company known for plastic dolls who makes a paint range on the side (some of which are great products, and some of which are trash) has put out a "game changer" for people who are already invested. I have an open mind, but it's completely reasonable for people to say "I'll believe it when I try it myself" and/or "this is ok, but it's not gonna replace traditional painting methods". People need hands on, and slamming them for liking/disliking a product sight unseen based on the history of that company's paint line is silly
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May 13, 2019 20:02
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LingcodKilla posted:Opinions are not lies. Just like your opinions I don’t take at face value because you sound like a salesperson. Plenty of other people managed to say how neat they are without coming across as a shill. I didn't find him coming across as a shill at all. Sounded like a person who used the product first hand and was relaying what he thought.
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May 13, 2019 20:20
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:Your entire posting history would disprove that.  evol262 posted:I think you're taking this a little seriously, dude. GW have consistently produced some of the best paints in the industry, though their pots are garbage. Not every single paint is great, but overall its a range as good as anyone elses.
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May 13, 2019 20:23
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I would be way more excited about contrast paint if they had released Caliban green (I'm still very excited)
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May 13, 2019 20:29
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Booley posted:
The poor ones are easily made up for by the One True Barry.
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May 13, 2019 20:29
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Booley posted:GW have consistently produced some of the best paints in the industry, though their pots are garbage. Not every single paint is great, but overall its a range as good as anyone elses. "Not every paint is great" is exactly what I meant. Their washes and shades are amazing. Retributor gold rules. Ceramite white has good coverage but is clumpy as hell. The entire drybrush line doesn't hit the mark for me. We could go through the line and say "this is great", "this is ok", and "buy vallejo/whatever", and yes, that applies to all painted vendors (vallejo's metals are pretty poo poo, army painter is a miss other than top-tier washes), but what I mean is that I'm taking it with a grain of salt. Not that I'm not gonna at least try it, but a lot of the citadel paints I do have are because I can find them literally anywhere, not because I'd rather have zandri dust than VMC khaki, and I probably won't be sold on the contrast line until I get to play with it
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Cage Kicker posted:I would be way more excited about contrast paint if they had released Caliban green Pretty sure there's a DA suitable one. Not sure I'd really want to do a marine with them though, at least not without practice.
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