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bobfather posted:Loved the "show, don’t tell" with the announcement during the evacuation. Other HBO shows could take advantage of this device! Keep in mind there still three very hot reactors nearby
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I dug up the video on the chopper crash. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuNtgYtF4FI
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I'm kinda surprised Jared Harris's character didn't get shitcanned(killed?) for that explanation to the party. "I dropped tons of sand on it to put out the fire, and I thought it was safe to do but it wasn't and now it's going to cause an even bigger disaster."
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Despera posted:Keep in mind there still three very hot reactors nearby Fine, but you don’t get supercritical reactions from a fission reactor despite the failure mode. Also, a megaton is an absurd amount of explosive power. All explosions in WWII including the two atom bombs we used were like 3 megatons.
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OldTennisCourt posted:So basically the graphite absorbed an absurd amount of radiation and basically became literal death rocks Yep, the graphite chunks that got thrown out of the building were basically doom rocks while the graphite that remained in the core caught on fire after the second explosion pumping even more radiation into the atmosphere. The story of how the West found out about the accident is really fascinating by itself. Chernobyl radiation was first detected at a nuclear plant in Sweden which promptly SCRAMed because they thought the radiation was from their own reactor. On closer inspection the radiation they were detecting contained elements that would not be expected from their own reactor which even led to some thought a nuclear weapon had gone off somewhere and they were catching the fallout. Other plants started detecting the radiation so the Swedes got together and busted out some wind maps and ultimately traced things back to the Ukraine. When Swedish diplomats confronted the USSR the response was, "lol wut?". It wasn't until Sweden threatened to go to the IAEA that the Soviets admitted there had been an "incident" at Chernobyl.
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Well if they are looking for a man made soviet disaster for a sequel, nothing quite as horrifying as eating your children a la Holodomor
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Minrad posted:Imagine a big cube (of graphite) with a bunch of tubes running through it like a block of swiss cheese. Some of these tubes have radioactive material, which give off heat as they radiate, and when their radiation hits the other radioactive rods those rods give off even more radiation. This is the "chain reaction" of a nuclear reactor. When it happens very fast, you have a bomb. When it happens very slowly and in a controlled fashion, it just gives off a lot of heat, which is good for boiling water to run a turbine generator like any other power plant. oi https://i.imgur.com/iaH0I15.gifv
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Comrade Dyatlov! Comrade Dyatlov! (You can actually "beat" that simulator, by the way, by very slowly upping the reactor and cooling systems at a certain rate to burn off the excess xenon so the reactor can run clean again. It's loving hard, though, and not what they were trying to do that night regardless.) Minera fucked around with this message at 04:02 on May 14, 2019 |
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May 14, 2019 03:59
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Remember how that 1st responder picked up that rock that had a groove in it and a few minutes is screaming in pain...that was graphite
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What was the significance of the geyser of water the three dudes pointed at and ran from?
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OldTennisCourt posted:This is literally a loving horror series. I know, and I loving love it. So many incredible moments: Like the explosion in episode 1, the helicopter unceremoniously falling out of the sky on the first goddamn drop was extremely effective. Mazin does an amazing job of dramatizing little things while also understating big things, which makes both really get under your skin. The increasing horrified realization of the central committee when they're explaining how Ukraine and Belorussia will be permanently uninhabitable and the food supply of Eastern Europe poisoned forever if there's a full meltdown. The colonel/captain volunteering to go take the measurement himself...balls of steel. The doctor getting radiation burns on her hands from disrobing the firefighters. Goddamn amazing show. See, HBO? We don't need tits and dragons!
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I didn't think this could get even more terrifying but I was very, very wrong. The lights going out and the geiger counter going apeshit is the stuff of nightmares.MOVIE MAJICK posted:What was the significance of the geyser of water the three dudes pointed at and ran from? I believe the only ingress for water into that area is through more severely irradiated parts of the reactor building.
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LadyPictureShow posted:If anyone wants an It's nice they gave a medal to 3 guys, but are they the same 3 guys who did that?  and it's not like there are a lot of their coworkers around!
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:400 Rubles wow big spenders. 400 Soviet rubles in 1986.... ....equalled 99 US dollars in 1986. Biiiiiiiiiig spenders
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I love how watching the decontamination fluid dripping off the truck and onto the ground is just screaming “this all has to go somewhere. Everything has to go somewhere.”
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My only complaint was not enough Fomin and Bryukhanov. Also no Dylatov
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Actually we do, but there is no reason we can’t have them and the invisible creeping horror of radiation.
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Was all that sand lava what formed the infamous elephant foot?
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Despera posted:Well if they are looking for a man made soviet disaster for a sequel, nothing quite as horrifying as eating your children a la Holodomor boy, if you thought watching people projectile vomiting blood and their skin falling off was harrowing. Ukraine just can never catch a break it seems 
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Jared Harris working hard to catch up with Sean Bean. https://twitter.com/JaredHarris/status/1126806813964427264
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:It’s crazy how so much about Chernobyl is still a mystery because of Soviet attempts to bury as much as possible. Like how well never accurately know how many people really died. we know how many people died acutely, but when it comes to radiological or other toxic accidents you can only measure mortality on an epidemiological scale. like "statistically we can assume that 5-8% of this type of cancer seen in this group of people in this area are likely attributable to the incident". like, if we have a 70 year old man who smoked heavily to deal with the stress of being a chernobyl evacuee and survivor, and he gets lung cancer, is he a victim of the accident or not? it's not really a knowable number even with perfect information clown shoes posted:Was all that sand lava what formed the infamous elephant foot? yeah, it's a mineral called corium and it is made of the various substances in a reactor all melted together in a meltdown. the specific composition varies based on what was in the reactor and how it melted down, the chernobyl corium has a lot of silica in it because since the chernobyl reactor did not have a containment vessel it was more easily exposed, and thus the soviets had to try to dump poo poo on the core to prevent a release which would have otherwise been prevented by keeping the reactor contained. so the chernobyl corium was able to pick up material from the surrounding reactor/building plus all the stuff being thrown into it like a glowing volcano
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So, you're saying the show still has tits-and-dragons growth potential.
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Gonz posted:By the way, if they hadn’t drained those water tanks? Pretty sure that 2 - 4 megaton statement was exaggerated. Would have still been a devastating event either way though.
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The actual quote states 3-5 megatons. They toned it down for the show. Anyone here know if corium hitting water could really create a steam explosion rated in the megatons? All the quotes from the actual people are all very loose with exactly how it would happen.Anne Whateley posted:Not trying to be a downer again, but we literally just watched 2 hours about how the state will totally lie like a rug to its citizens to minimize how huge a problem it is. There’s something not right about this. For years everyone reported these guys as dead. Then a book comes out and says the story was overblown and they were fine and one still works in the nuclear industry. And none of them want to talk about it. Oh and they’re healthy apart from the guy that died of a heart attack. That water would have water from the feed pipes in it. The feed water giving off 5000 roentgens. I’d love for them to have survived but... how? Unless that water was like 90% from the fire hoses or something. Regarde Aduck fucked around with this message at 06:14 on May 14, 2019 |
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Regarde Aduck posted:The actual quote states 3-5 megatons. They toned it down for the show. Anyone here know if corium hitting water could really create a steam explosion rated in the megatons? All the quotes from the actual people re all very loose with exactly how it would happen. I dont think its so much the "explosion" as it is the amount of radiotactive material being thrown into the atmosphere. Its three whole, and a half, of reactor cores being scattered around the greater part of the continent.
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Gonz posted:Jared Harris working hard to catch up with Sean Bean. Hell yeah, Fringe represent! That ending tho, holy gently caress 
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Gaj posted:I dont think its so much the "explosion" as it is the amount of radiotactive material being thrown into the atmosphere. Its three whole, and a half, of reactor cores being scattered around the greater part of the continent. Ah I get it. I was thinking in terms of boom instead of radiation. Thanks.
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The REAL Goobusters posted:another fun fact: How is it that I knew that this was that loving Pizza Hut commercial? Also, I don't know what's more terrifying, the God-tier environmental disaster that was Chernobyl or Soviet bureaucracy.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Can someone post a nice Nuclear Energy 101 video for us dumbasses who don’t understand how these magic things called “atoms” make the electricity that makes my computer turn on? https://youtu.be/-Nc0wCrkk00
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Despera posted:Well if they are looking for a man made soviet disaster for a sequel, nothing quite as horrifying as eating your children a la Holodomor quote:The word Holodomor literally translated from Ukrainian means "death by hunger", or "killing by hunger, killing by starvation".[28] Sometimes the expression is translated into English as "murder by hunger or starvation".[29] Holodomor is a compound of the Ukrainian words holod meaning "hunger" and mor meaning "plague". The expression moryty holodom means "to inflict death by hunger". The Ukrainian verb moryty (морити) means "to poison somebody, drive to exhaustion or to torment somebody". The perfective form of the verb moryty is zamoryty – "kill or drive to death by hunger, exhausting work". quote:A U.N. joint statement signed by 25 countries in 2003 declared that 7–10 million perished.[16] Research has since narrowed the estimates to between 3.3[17] and 7.5[18] million.
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Gonz posted:Jared Harris working hard to catch up with Sean Bean. https://twitter.com/clmazin/status/1127791433124012032 She was also in the AC-12 interrogation room, a place even more terrible then the two mentioned.
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I wondered if they could hold up after that incredible first episode and happily they did, that was incredible. The shots of the deserted city were almost as incredible as that giant balls dude coming back and saying,"Yeah so it's not 3.61, it's 15,000  "That final shot of the lights going out leaving the three poor bastards in the dark, the only sound their panicked breathing and the Geiger building up to a scream was loving terrifying.
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My god this show is incredible and horrifying. Does anyone know, did their flashlights really go out down there? Would the radiation do that? I know the elephants foot fried some cameras they tried to use on it, so it certainly seems possible. It's always a fun day when you have to amend your list of greatest fears because you discovered a new one, but "be trapped in a dark basement with rising water and radiation so bad that it fried your flashlight and all you can hear is the sound of water splashing and the geiger counter screaming in the dark" is definitely going on that list.
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The helicopter crash happened like 5 months after the explosion, in October. Not sure why they chose to move it up to where they did, considering there's plenty of drama going on already. Unless I'm misremembering my Chernobyl facts and there was a second crash. Which I could be. Those three dudes who went in there to open that sluice gate and drain the tanks are probably up there with Norman Borlaug as far as true heroes go. Martian Manfucker fucked around with this message at 09:04 on May 14, 2019 |
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