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I kind of want to see Zilla show up again. Cool design regardless of authenticity.
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Arcsquad12 posted:I kind of want to see Zilla show up again. Cool design regardless of authenticity. Zilla would make a good midboss type fight, then later on once you've assembled the whole monster squad you can fight fifty of them.
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May 13, 2019 01:16
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It's weird as hell that Godzilla was part of the Marvel universe in the late 1970s, with Thor fighting him, Spiderman photographing him, etc. The design is awful though, and maybe partly why Godzilla is often thought to be green. Hey Disney, I've got an idea for your MCU if the current US copyright licensing expires...
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May 13, 2019 01:19
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Mokelumne Trekka posted:It's weird as hell that Godzilla was part of the Marvel universe in the late 1970s, with Thor fighting him, Spiderman photographing him, etc. The design is awful though, and maybe partly why Godzilla is often thought to be green. Don't even Also the MCU is poo poo with giant monster stuff. Absolute poo poo.
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May 13, 2019 01:53
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Mokelumne Trekka posted:It's weird as hell that Godzilla was part of the Marvel universe in the late 1970s, with Thor fighting him, Spiderman photographing him, etc. The design is awful though, and maybe partly why Godzilla is often thought to be green. I was lucky enough to meet Herb Trimpe when I was a kid, I asked him about the Godzilla comics, and he said that the decision-making process came down to wanting to depict him as a very large man in a suit. I'll always be partial to his design!
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May 13, 2019 01:56
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The pictures I've seen of Marvel Godzilla remind me of the t-rex in The Land Unknown (1957). Maybe not flattering samples. Also I have an aversion to green Godzillas so that probably factors in Sure beats 'Son of Godzilla' Godzilla in any case
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May 13, 2019 02:23
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Dammerung posted:I was lucky enough to meet Herb Trimpe when I was a kid, I asked him about the Godzilla comics, and he said that the decision-making process came down to wanting to depict him as a very large man in a suit. I'll always be partial to his design! Also the art back in the day was very In consistent
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May 13, 2019 02:26
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Don't blame Trimpe for that. From what I understand from those days, the higher-ups at Marvel decided that once they got the license, they wanted Doug Moench to write and Herb Trimpe to draw it. Herb was picked because of his popularity on drawing the Incredible Hulk, a 'monstrous' character, and Moench was an up-and-coming writer who had also worked on the Hulk. That was literally the only reason they were picked. There weren't really any James Stokoe level artists back then who wanted to draw the comic. Trimpe was it. They also couldn't get anyone to ink Trimpe continuously for the same reasons. You need an inker who's familiar with the penciller's style, and no one worked on enough issues in this comic to really click with his style. It was always farmed out to whomever was available, usually people in the Bullpen who didn't have any regular assignments. Trimpe often wound up inking his own pencils because no one could be found by deadline time who was willing/available to do it. Interestingly, Fred Kida, a Japanese American comic artist seemed to be one of the more popular inkers for Godzilla, but didn't stay on for long. Moench and Trimpe had some help (Archie Goodwin, a senior editor at the time told him to use SHIELD and Stan Lee himself supposedly gave his blessing to Moench despite being totally unfamiliar with the Godzilla genre) but there were a lot of other things in the way. Toho's contract with Marvel specifically -ONLY- licensed Godzilla to Marvel. They were forbidden from using any other Toho property, like Mothra or Rodan. So Moench had to dream up Marvel original characters for opponents, like Yetrigar, and the terrible trio of Mega-monsters of Rhiann, Krollar, and Triax. And Red Ronin, who was supposed to be a stand-in for Jet Jaguar. Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 03:30 on May 13, 2019 |
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May 13, 2019 03:07
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I mean if you look at all the other licensed Godzilla stuff that was being done around this time, nobody was on-model. America had just sort of a general conception of Godzilla as "big dinosaur, plates on his back, spits fire." And the green thing was as early as the posters for King of the Monsters. Even happened on some Japanese posters, it just makes good contrast for printing.
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May 13, 2019 05:50
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I’m just going to take this opportunity to say that Godzilla fans should check out Devil Dinosaur. The Avengers shrink Godzilla. Godzilla fights rats in New York’s sewers, grows to human size and fights the Fantastic Four. The FF send Godzilla back in time to make him pre histories problem, and Godzilla grows to T-Rex size and fights Devil Dinosaur.
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Maxwell Lord posted:I mean if you look at all the other licensed Godzilla stuff that was being done around this time, nobody was on-model. To be fair, the licence agreement was that Marvel got to use Godzilla and Toei got to use Spider-Man and Captain America and they were also pretty far from being 'on model'   
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:To be fair, the licence agreement was that Marvel got to use Godzilla and Toei got to use Spider-Man and Captain America and they were also pretty far from being 'on model' I know this is a joke but I'm PRETTY sure Toei had nothing to do with the Godzilla Marvel license. Also Japanese Spider-Man was pretty much the best live action Spider-Man until Raimi came along, the actual suit was not bad at all and the way he moved and fought is actually truer to the comics than any of the movies have bothered to do. Mostly because it looks silly in a kitchy way. The giant robot is something else entirely. The other also didn't really use Captain America at all- that was the original idea, but they instead decided to do a new Sentai series, using elements of Japanese Spider-Man and the idea of Country Themed Heroes (the giant robot) to become SUPER Sentai
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:To be fair, the licence agreement was that Marvel got to use Godzilla and Toei got to use Spider-Man and Captain America and they were also pretty far from being 'on model' Toei's another company from Toho, who owns Godzilla. Totally different deal, as Burkion says. Also, another reason Marvel had to create its own monsters in its Godzilla series: Toho was perfectly willing to license Rodan, Mothra, Ghidorah, etc. all Marvel had to do was pay for each one. And they would charge the same price for each monster. Marvel could barely afford -just- Godzilla. Back then, Marvel was nowhere near the moneymaking giant it is now and simply couldn't. But man, if they did, those comics could have rocked more. Also, Marvel's Godzilla didn't tank because of low sales or reader enthusiasm, it was doing well in both of those, but Toho decided that they were going to increase the licensing fee and that's when it was ended, as Marvel couldn't afford the increase. Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 23:12 on May 13, 2019 |
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May 13, 2019 23:04
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I don't want Disney to own everything but it would be cool to see Godzilla just stomp on 90% of the Marvel cast in the next movie.
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May 13, 2019 23:10
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Mantis42 posted:I don't want Disney to own everything but it would be cool to see Godzilla just stomp on 90% of the Marvel cast in the next movie. Avengers: EndedbyGodzilla
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May 13, 2019 23:13
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I would be fine with an Avengers Godzilla crossover if it had the Avengers failing to solve some kaiju or giant robot problem, Godzilla shows up, Avengers try to stop him, he swats them aside, fights the real threat, they pitch in, and then they save the day and Godzilla leaves. Because nothing in Avengers has shown the ability to touch Godzilla short of the infinity gauntlet. Fuckers are able to get by with trick arrows, guns and basic martial arts. Thanos was nearly put down because he got stabbed in the chest the fucker.
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May 13, 2019 23:50
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Godzilla's nuclear energy would protect him from the Infinity Gauntlet. There's no debating it.
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I just wanna see a shot like the one from Ragnarok when Hulk is leaping at Surtur but it's Godzilla charging his atomic breath Airbrushed on the side of my VW microbus McSpanky fucked around with this message at 08:33 on May 14, 2019 |
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I want to point out that Captain America, who isn't even as strong as Spider-Man physically, could reasonably hold his own 1 on 1 with a vibrainium super Ultron robot via boxing. The MCU is some weak rear end poo poo
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Goodbye now Godzilla... my old friiiiiiend I want to gently caress Godzilla the song. Just finished 84 and it holds up but these credits.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOq7I8rCTgA
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Vintersorg posted:Goodbye now Godzilla... my old friiiiiiend Yeah there's a reason I now think Godzilla's Resurrection, a fan edit that combines Return of Godzilla and Godzilla 1985 (so all the Japanese stuff if the blu ray recent stuff and subbed, but it has American scenes with theworst of it edited out and some of the really good American score included) as the definitive version Because not only does it keep the great ending of Return of Godzilla, but it keeps the AMAZING Raymond Burr speech of 85, and it doesn't hard cut to the Godzilla Love Ballad inexplicably added in
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Burkion posted:I want to point out that Captain America, who isn't even as strong as Spider-Man physically, could reasonably hold his own 1 on 1 with a vibrainium super Ultron robot via boxing. Cap is pretty strong in the MCU. He's able to hold down a helicopter that's capable of roughly 3000 lbs of lifting force. Still, he's a basic bitch compared to Godzilla.
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The Avengers only need Ant Man and Captain Marvel to take care of Godzilla.
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Captain Marvel would just fly head first through Godzilla's head and one shot him.
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Vince MechMahon posted:Captain Marvel would just fly head first through Godzilla's head and one shot him. Godzilla has a mighty noggin, Captain Marvel would just bounce off. What might work, however, would be Captain Marvel putting Ant Man up Godzilla's butt. Also, just as a fun note, getting struck by Mjolnir was exceptionally painful for Godzilla. 
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May 14, 2019 10:16
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Just send Ant Man into Godzilla’s rear end
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Burkion posted:Yeah there's a reason I now think Godzilla's Resurrection, a fan edit that combines Return of Godzilla and Godzilla 1985 (so all the Japanese stuff if the blu ray recent stuff and subbed, but it has American scenes with theworst of it edited out and some of the really good American score included) as the definitive version This sounds pretty good. Other than the few bad cheesy choices in the American edit it really is paced a lot better than the Japanese cut.
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May 14, 2019 12:03
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The best part of ‘85 is the dude taking a long swig from a well rotated-so-you-can-see-the-brand Dr. Pepper at the climactic moment.
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Peacoffee posted:The best part of ‘85 is the dude taking a long swig from a well rotated-so-you-can-see-the-brand Dr. Pepper at the climactic moment. That is the only Dr Pepper ad placement left in that fan edit I talked about It's great
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At least the product placement in King of the Monsters is sensible. You see the Dunkin Donuts sign when Ghidorah remodels Fenway Park.
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Tekne posted:At least the product placement in King of the Monsters is sensible. You see the Dunkin Donuts sign when Ghidorah remodels Fenway Park. Yeah, but having each head wearing a Red Sox hat was a step too far!
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May 14, 2019 19:40
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They wanted you to really sense Ghidorah's evil from a glance.
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Davros1 posted:Yeah, but having each head wearing a Red Sox hat was a step too far! Each head is a fan of a different team Monday Nights are brutal affairs and most of his rampages aren't out of malice, it's just them bickering amongst themselves and things got out of hand, so mom kicked them out of the house https://twitter.com/_tsk03_/status/1128292609300897793
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KotM drinking challenge: Take a shot of the corresponding whiskey when that kaiju is on screen 
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Can’t find anything about if they’ll be available in the states. I’ve been working my way through some of the various Game of Thrones scotch, and Godzilla whiskey would be a good follow up.
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Open Marriage Night posted:Can’t find anything about if they’ll be available in the states. I’ve been working my way through some of the various Game of Thrones scotch, and Godzilla whiskey would be a good follow up. Why
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Because I like to drink and collect fun bottles? I recommend the Hellboy Hellwater cinnamon whiskey. Better than Fireball.
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Because you need to drown out how bad the show is to even watch it? Also I got down on that hellboy cinnamon water. I don’t mind fireball, or any cinnamon whisky candy water poo poo, but the hellboy whisky tasted exactly like the new movie.
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Is the Godzilla anime on Netflix any good? I struggled to get through Mechagodzilla and fell asleep during SpaceGodzilla. Haven't watched Destroyah yet. Should I bother with the Millennium series? I watched Godzilla 2014 earlier and it was a lot better than I remember it being, and will probably watch it again and Skull Island a couple days before King of the Monsters.
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