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mycomancy posted:The only way this could've ended better is if all these rich fuckhead Boomers fought each other to the death, with the winner committing suicide. There was another case out in the country with again, two retired rich boomer professionals who have never been wrong or disrespected in their lives getting into a property dispute. Neither of them farmed their land, they just wanted to hoard acres. One of them put up a big long fence and the other got extremely worried the fence might be slightly on his property and in fact was totally sure it was like 20' off. Guy who built the fence assured him he got a proper survey done and built the fence exactly correctly but he would be deeply offended and counter-sue if the other guy went and surveyed him self. The other guy's survey found the fence was up to a foot off so he demanded it demolished off *his* property. Fence builder knew he did it right and accused him of fudging the survey. In total they got about 6 surveys done and had to get some super expensive millimeter accurate one done. In the end it turns out the fence, in areas, was maybe an inch or two over the property line so had to be destroyed in the name of property rights. Oh also they were decent friends for years before this happened but both lost their poo poo. Destroyed a friendship and a nice fence and half a million dollars because it was incredibly important to find out who was right.
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Youth Decay posted:... Honestly, I like the look of this neighborhood. Each house has its own personality. If every house looked like any one of those it'd be boring as hell. I don't like the house in the center (or really any of them) but it's so much better than the vinyl sided, tiny shuttered, copy paste developments around me.
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May 14, 2019 04:28
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May 14, 2019 04:32
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White boxy house is not the worst thing in that neighborhood.
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peanut posted:White boxy house is not the worst thing in that neighborhood. The white boxy house looks quite good and would fit in just fine if it didn't have the windows from a CIA safe-house in the middle east circa 1980. Imagine about a dozen satellite dishes on the roof.
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Baronjutter posted:There was another case out in the country with again, two retired rich boomer professionals who have never been wrong or disrespected in their lives getting into a property dispute. Neither of them farmed their land, they just wanted to hoard acres. One of them put up a big long fence and the other got extremely worried the fence might be slightly on his property and in fact was totally sure it was like 20' off. Guy who built the fence assured him he got a proper survey done and built the fence exactly correctly but he would be deeply offended and counter-sue if the other guy went and surveyed him self. The other guy's survey found the fence was up to a foot off so he demanded it demolished off *his* property. Fence builder knew he did it right and accused him of fudging the survey. In total they got about 6 surveys done and had to get some super expensive millimeter accurate one done. In the end it turns out the fence, in areas, was maybe an inch or two over the property line so had to be destroyed in the name of property rights. Is there some sort of brain illness that kicks in and makes old dudes freak out about fences? My grandfather steadily alienated all his neighbors by bickering with them relentlessly over hedges, fences, and the division of a shared driveway (really, the neighbor's driveway and his were side by side so it was basically one giant slab of asphalt across the property line, but he insisted they kepy parking over on 'his side' and trying to steal it away, so he installed dividing poles in the middle to mark the division).
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May 14, 2019 04:50
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Tl;dr: if someone "takes" your property with fences or driveways or whatever for long enough, they can end up having rights to or owning that part of it
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May 14, 2019 05:00
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I've always had a theory that old white boomers who have lived such comfortable lives almost have an immune disorder for things they care about or get upset about. While a normal person might get up in arms and go protest to protect their health care system or fight for environmental causes or women's rights, the wealthy old boomer has nothing in their pampered retirement age to get upset about so have to invent things to get upset about. "The neighbour power washed his side of his adjoined driveway but ended up power washing a couple feet of mine so it looks like his driveway is bigger and now I feel like I'm forced to power wash my half" becomes an injustice that can not be ignored. Bridges will be burned, sided will be taken, lawyers will be hired, hills will be died on.
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May 14, 2019 05:54
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This also helps them rationalise away everyone else's grievances as being equally trivial. I mean they can just choose to be magnanimous and let the power-washing slide, so why can't others be just as gracious about their lack of healthcare or increased likelihood of being stopped by police?
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May 14, 2019 09:22
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Blue Footed Booby posted:If every house looked like any one of those it'd be boring as hell. They're all very much alike in that they're butt-ugly. Whoops hehe better turn on all my monitors.
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Baronjutter posted:I've always had a theory that old white boomers who have lived such comfortable lives almost have an immune disorder for things they care about or get upset about. While a normal person might get up in arms and go protest to protect their health care system or fight for environmental causes or women's rights, the wealthy old boomer has nothing in their pampered retirement age to get upset about so have to invent things to get upset about. Or a slight variation on this, everything in their lives has been hammered flat to such a degree that anything sticking up gets all their attention. So it's not so much inventing things to be upset about so much as not having anything bigger to compare it to and it becomes the biggest issue in their lives.
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I can assure you all that territorial oversensitivity knows no bounds regarding race, gender or general appearance of sanity. On the other hand, it is correct that your retired boomer dentist is exactly the sort of person who has enough liquid assets to escalate this sort of thing to the courts.
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May 14, 2019 11:21
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Honesty, the exposed sloppy looking wires for the TV and the loving sectional in front of a closet almost offend me more than those windows.
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May 14, 2019 13:16
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couldcareless posted:Honesty, the exposed sloppy looking wires for the TV and the loving sectional in front of a closet almost offend me more than those windows. The closet has sliding doors and it looks as if there's plenty of room for a non-American to access it. e: I mean everything is still ugly as all hell but the closet isn't a problem  ee: I'm the chest of drawers in the nursery that was stolen from a 1983 Finnish Summer cottage.
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May 14, 2019 13:29
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I am sitting on that identical couch right now! It's pretty comfy for 600 bucks from ikea, and it pulls out into a sofa bed.
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Ashcans posted:Is there some sort of brain illness that kicks in and makes old dudes freak out about fences? My grandfather steadily alienated all his neighbors by bickering with them relentlessly over hedges, fences, and the division of a shared driveway (really, the neighbor's driveway and his were side by side so it was basically one giant slab of asphalt across the property line, but he insisted they kepy parking over on 'his side' and trying to steal it away, so he installed dividing poles in the middle to mark the division). When we moved into our new house the literal first thing the old dude next door said to my wife was how the fence is a little rickety and we might want to consider replacing it. Seriously, the very first thing was about the fence.
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May 14, 2019 15:33
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peanut posted:White boxy house is not the worst thing in that neighborhood. Yeah that hip roof monstrosity on the right is 100x worse. Somehow Crappy Construction attracted the picket fence and vinyl column crowd.
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Tiny Lowtax posted:When we moved into our new house the literal first thing the old dude next door said to my wife was how the fence is a little rickety and we might want to consider replacing it. Seriously, the very first thing was about the fence. Within 48 hours of us entering our house, the retiree next door came over, introduced herself, and told me that I was to remove all weeds bordering her property as well as remove all the ivy on my property that was getting near her house, and that an old tree in the front yard needed removed before it touched her “garden”. Literally within a minute of introducing herself to us. Leaded gasoline hosed that generation up something fierce, I guess.
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May 14, 2019 18:59
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If it helps I'm a millenium and fences are also all I talk to my neighbours new and old about.
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I love my parents but they freak out about dripping two drops of water on the floor of the kitchen if you don't instantly swoop down to wipe it up, complain about running hot water down the garbage disposal (this will make it only last 20 years instead of 30 years), and otherwise focus way too much on stupid tiny details. And one time someone climbed over their back fence, so now the quality, height, and condition of their fence is of constant concern. They are on good terms with their neighbors at least, but that is partially on the basis of a status-quo agreement over territorial claims on the lengths of curb on their block and who gets to park their cars along them, even though they're all actually public street that anyone can park on. If you have a guest who parks in front of a neighbor's house, this infringement will be noted. If it happens frequently, there will be a passive-aggressive note. Or a not so passive-aggressive retaliatory shift of your own vehicles to be partially in front of their house. They're well off and very comfortable and just need to be annoyed about insignificant details in their lives. All this petty poo poo really is just a symptom of aging I think. My stepdad in particular has always been something of a control freak, but he's gotten a lot worse in the last decade, especially after retiring. He's bored and needs someone to lecture to about anything. This isn't just a boomer problem, it's an old people thing. All they have left as their health fails and their work is gone, is to try to assert control over the remaining aspects ever-shrinking horizons of their lives that are within reach. We as a society need to find things for our elderly to do that makes them feel important and useful, or else they will do so on their own, to our collective detriment.
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Leperflesh posted:
https://www.redcross.org/volunteer/become-a-volunteer.html Keeps my dad and uncle busy, they both enjoy it. They have a lot of different volunteer positions, too. Dad is on a DAT team, responding to house fires and stuff, and also deploys to disaster areas. He just got back from the Nebraska floods. But there are people who just do office work, or maintain CB radio links, or work on the vehicles, install smoke alarms or run public events, tons of stuff. https://twitter.com/RedCrossNorthFL/status/1115962656404512768 look at this goober, being all helpful and dadly, and letting kids run on his lawn without a care in the world and before you say it, I know red cross isn't perfect and has it's flaws, but it allows dad to help a lot of people, and he gets a lot of fulfillment from it. Suspect Bucket fucked around with this message at 20:22 on May 14, 2019 |
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See this is what model trains are for, that way as you age into senility and dotage, you have the power to command entire towns and fleets of trains to operate at your beck and whim. In the basement, where you are out of the way and not a burden to the rest of the world.
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Suspect Bucket posted:https://www.redcross.org/volunteer/become-a-volunteer.html Tell your dad he rules. -signed a Nebraskan
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Yeah my mom has parkinsons and so my dad is chained to the house most of the time since she can't be safely left alone for very long. Also he spends all day trading, and does not accept suggestions from his kids about what he should do with himself (never has). But, yeah, volunteer work is a great way for the elderly to occupy themselves, if you can steer them towards the better sort of thing like red cross, vs. the sort of busybody volunteer work like being on the board of the HOA.
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Leperflesh posted:Volunteer work is a great way for the elderly to occupy themselves, if you can steer them towards the better sort of thing like red cross, vs. the sort of busybody volunteer work like being on the board of the HOA. TWIST he is also the head of his building's condo board. He successfully campaigned to get pets allowed.
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My folks have gotten into adult education classes and during the semester they want to go out and drink and talk about the cool stuff they're learning, but inbetween semesters they want to stay in and get increasingly squirrelly about politics. Volunteer work sounds like a good idea.
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My dad decided to become an unlicensed handyman doing renovations and house repair projects for side money! I wouldn't be surprised if some of his work might fit on this very thread... Also they have a stab-lock panel they refuse to get swapped out because it would be "too expensive" but are instead redoing their bathrooms that are perfectly nice already because it will "add value to the house"
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May 14, 2019 21:11
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You know what adds value to a house? It not being a charred pile of rubble.
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May 14, 2019 21:15
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Goddamn, start executing boomer CHUDS.
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Crunchy Black posted:Goddamn, start executing boomer CHUDS. Why stop at just boomer CHUDS?
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This: "old people doing lame and uncool things that I totally won't do when I become old and uncool" derail sure is interesting!
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My family and I moved last July so I could take a new position in a small, rural-ish college town. We bought a gorgeous house with a decrepit but salvageable workshop and garden shed, complete with a dedicated power main. My wife and I have been ripping out the interior of the section we intend to keep, as it's basically a gigantic fire hazard and ugly as sin. As we're getting to the end of this demo, my job today was to disconnect all the wires leaving the electrical panel so she can pull them down at her leisure. I knew this panel was a mess but I hadn't looked closely at it...until today. Here's what I found.   Just...why. What loving possessed someone to connect apparently every ground in the workshop to the neutral bus? And yeah, that's a goddamned black wire jammed in there. One of the lines I removed had the white wire hot and the black line neutral.    aluminum wire in cloth insulation! How did this thing not burn to the ground decades ago?
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As I understand it, the ground's main purpose is to provide a safe pathway for the angry pixies to go, in the event that the neutral connection is broken but the hot connection remains connected. Tying the ground to the neutral at the box accomplishes this, as long as the neutral at the box is not broken. I believe in some cases the neutral at the box is grounded directly from the box, to ensure this works. e. This also provides a pathway for induced current in the neutral to flow to ground. This reddit post (yes yes I know) provides a reasonably thorough explanation, but basically: yeah that is OK, although ugly looking and the black wire should not have been used. https://www.reddit.com/r/AskEngineers/comments/38ocy1/why_bother_having_a_ground_if_neutral_and_ground/ Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 21:59 on May 14, 2019 |
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Leperflesh posted:As I understand it, the ground's main purpose is to provide a safe pathway for the angry pixies to go, in the event that the neutral connection is broken but the hot connection remains connected. Tying the ground to the neutral at the box accomplishes this, as long as the neutral at the box is not broken. I believe in some cases the neutral at the box is grounded directly from the box, to ensure this works. Neutral should only be bonded to ground at one point, generally the main panel for the house/building. If you run a sub panel to the garage or something, the neutral and ground should be kept separate, according to NEC.
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Leperflesh posted:As I understand it, the ground's main purpose is to provide a safe pathway for the angry pixies to go, in the event that the neutral connection is broken but the hot connection remains connected. Tying the ground to the neutral at the box accomplishes this, as long as the neutral at the box is not broken. I believe in some cases the neutral at the box is grounded directly from the box, to ensure this works. That's handy - I needed to read that. I recently replaced some sockets in my house, and wired in new ones on the same leg, and, while testing that I had wired them properly, discovered that they are not grounded, despite the presence of ground wires in the wiring. I checked several other outlets, and they are likewise ungrounded, so I likely have an issue with the grounding at the breaker box. Whee! Now I at least know what to look for.
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Cross posting
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oh loving god thats the worst.
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Methylethylaldehyde posted:Neutral should only be bonded to ground at one point, generally the main panel for the house/building. If you run a sub panel to the garage or something, the neutral and ground should be kept separate, according to NEC. Ah, right. Is there a chance that sub-panel actually has its own drop? If not, it may be a case of the previous owner knowing about that neutral bonding but not knowing that it doesn't apply for a sub-panel. Darchangel posted:That's handy - I needed to read that. I recently replaced some sockets in my house, and wired in new ones on the same leg, and, while testing that I had wired them properly, discovered that they are not grounded, despite the presence of ground wires in the wiring. I checked several other outlets, and they are likewise ungrounded, so I likely have an issue with the grounding at the breaker box. Whee! Now I at least know what to look for. The wiring in the box may be just to ground the outlet to its outlet box. Or, are you saying you see wiring coming into the box consisting of black, white, + a ground wire, but that ground wire isn't registering as grounded?
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