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Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



family buys tesla solar roof

roof is installed incorrectly and not to code leading to leaks, blocking a vent, and damaging gutters

family makes kid write letter to elon

https://twitter.com/TiffanyPhoto1/status/1128472865437655043

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flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Dear Carter,

I was so sorry to hear about your roof. Please accept this leakproof, stainless-steel metal tube as my way of saying sorry to you. It's environmentally friendly, so you don't have to worry about harming the environment and keeping you from someday becoming old enough to buy a secondhand Tesla automobile with dead vape pen batteries.

Grace Baiting
Jul 20, 2012

Audi famam illius;
Cucurrit quaeque
Tetigit destruens.



Endless Mike posted:

family buys tesla solar roof

roof is installed incorrectly and not to code leading to leaks, blocking a vent, and damaging gutters

family makes kid write letter to elon

https://twitter.com/TiffanyPhoto1/status/1128472865437655043

cut out the middleman and just teach the roof directly so it learns to code then their house will stop rejecting our brainsavior musk's genius

Just-In-Timeberlake
Aug 18, 2003

Endless Mike posted:

family buys tesla solar roof

roof is installed incorrectly and not to code leading to leaks, blocking a vent, and damaging gutters

family makes kid write letter to elon

https://twitter.com/TiffanyPhoto1/status/1128472865437655043

lmaooooooooooooo

https://twitter.com/TiffanyPhoto1/status/1128499268572962817

obstipator
Nov 8, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

Endless Mike posted:

family buys tesla solar roof

roof is installed incorrectly and not to code leading to leaks, blocking a vent, and damaging gutters

family makes kid write letter to elon

https://twitter.com/TiffanyPhoto1/status/1128472865437655043

lmao

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

quote:

Our damages @Tesla they did a full reroof, roof leaked, tiles are installed wrong, no permit pulled, unattached tiles, reroof is not to code & has to be completely redone, interior damages from roof leaking, gutters were trashed, solar panels block a roof vent & is unserviceable

sorry kid that's not tesla's fault, those guys were independent contractors

Munkeymon
Aug 14, 2003

Motherfucker's got an
armor-piercing crowbar! Rigoddamndicu𝜆ous.



I was all set to assume that Tesla just sold the materials to any contractor and the family was just bugging Musk on Twitter for exposure but welp


https://www.tesla.com/solarroof posted:

Installations performed by Tesla, Inc.’s wholly owned subsidiary SolarCity Corporation.

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
finally, it's time for musk's child submarine to shine

Nfcknblvbl
Jul 15, 2002

i don't see the point in buying tesla's solar roofs, they're never going to pay for themselves over their lifespan

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have a thing for courageous dongles

Not a Children posted:

lol just what form of generation do you think provides base load in the majority of the country, esp at the most off-peak times (hint: late at night)?

there is typcally excess capacity on those systems at night and the emissions are being generated regardless. it's starting to change as gas turbines and reciprocating engines replace boiler systems but its slow

Chalks
Sep 30, 2009

turns out thumbfaced guy with bad cars is also bad at roofs who knew

Lord Stimperor
Jun 13, 2018

I'm a lovable meme.

How bad are the Tesla solar roofs compared to normal solar roofs? In the northern European swamps and wastes they typically pay off within a bit more than a decade, I read. Sunshine states can't be worse than that

Chalks
Sep 30, 2009

Lord Stimperor posted:

How bad are the Tesla solar roofs compared to normal solar roofs? In the northern European swamps and wastes they typically pay off within a bit more than a decade, I read. Sunshine states can't be worse than that

In the UK there were a bunch of subsidies for solar roofs. When they were cut, a many companies selling them went bust. I'm not sure what the situation is now but I imagine it might not be great without subsidies.

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope

Endless Mike posted:

family buys tesla solar roof

roof is installed incorrectly and not to code leading to leaks, blocking a vent, and damaging gutters

family makes kid write letter to elon

https://twitter.com/TiffanyPhoto1/status/1128472865437655043

now this is a :kiss: #brand #engagement tweet

El_Elegante
Jul 3, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Biscuit Hider

Nfcknblvbl posted:

i don't see the point in buying tesla's solar roofs, they're never going to pay for themselves over their lifespan

makes u wonder what other cons they r trying 2 pull

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

:ohdear: do i want to know how likely it is that some poor lineman's gonna get his loving hands blown off because a tesla solar tech didn't install the backfeed prevention correctly/at all?

Nfcknblvbl
Jul 15, 2002

Lord Stimperor posted:

How bad are the Tesla solar roofs compared to normal solar roofs? In the northern European swamps and wastes they typically pay off within a bit more than a decade, I read. Sunshine states can't be worse than that

really bad

https://news.energysage.com/tesla-solar-roof-price-vs-solar-panels/

even at the best case scenario where you have to replace your roof any way it's still way more expensive to install, and the power output from the cells is only about 2/3 of regular ones

graph
Nov 22, 2006

aaag peanuts

Nfcknblvbl posted:

I’m trying to ignore your laptop battery comments cause that poo poo applies to the S and X models. their new battery pack still uses cylindrical cells but they’re able to keep them cool enough for very high power demand. much of what Tesla has done with their permanent magnet motor is an industry secret so specifying why they’re unmatched in efficiency, power, and cost in parts isn’t really something I can provide but you it wins against the completion at the moment, and this includes bmw, Chevy, Audi, and jaguar.

once again you’re railing against the efficiency of the Tesla in winter, 300 Wh/mi is great when you’re driving around in 22f weather. comments like saying the c02 consumption is higher than diesel may be true in certain areas where most of their electricity is produced from coal, this just doesn’t apply everywhere. just about all the energy pulled from the grid to charge evs is during the off-peak times when base load stations keep their plants running since it would cost more money to shut them down during low demand, evs aren’t forcing more coal plants to open up.

you just have a crusade against electric vehicles in general

daddy will notice you defending him any day now

wargames
Mar 16, 2008

official yospos cat censor

Nfcknblvbl posted:

really bad

https://news.energysage.com/tesla-solar-roof-price-vs-solar-panels/

even at the best case scenario where you have to replace your roof any way it's still way more expensive to install, and the power output from the cells is only about 2/3 of regular ones

you also can't get a tesla roof unless you live near the factory.

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

flakeloaf posted:

:ohdear: do i want to know how likely it is that some poor lineman's gonna get his loving hands blown off because a tesla solar tech didn't install the backfeed prevention correctly/at all?

it's 100% :(

Nfcknblvbl
Jul 15, 2002

my coworker ordered a used model s from tesla, and it was supposed to be available to pick up today but they just called to let him know it has no LTE connection and the screen doesn't work so it's probably going to be a while until he can pick it up.

obstipator
Nov 8, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
demand so high they cant push out cars fast enough!

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Nfcknblvbl posted:

my coworker ordered a used model s from tesla, and it was supposed to be available to pick up today but they just called to let him know it has no LTE connection and the screen doesn't work so it's probably going to be a while until he can pick it up.

lmfao

obstipator posted:

demand so high they cant push out cars fast enough!

will you please stop posting

obstipator
Nov 8, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
if someone says something you disagree with, the best course of action is to silence them

leftist heap
Feb 28, 2013

Fun Shoe
imagine letting Tesla anywhere near your roof

El_Elegante
Jul 3, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Biscuit Hider

obstipator posted:

if someone says something you disagree with, the best course of action is to silence them

img-furries-quoting-ghandi.jpeg

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

leftist heap posted:

imagine letting Tesla anywhere near your roof

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGrs5ycQNf4

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Picture this:

There's a car manufacturer that plays games to conceal a horrifically-high death rate for a certain feature. It is known for taking control from a driver actively policing the feature and killing them.

Do you:
A) Sell the car
B) Record yourself using that feature

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

B.

"hi i'm johnny knoxville and this is 'self-driving car' "

Just-In-Timeberlake
Aug 18, 2003

Potato Salad posted:

Picture this:

There's a car manufacturer that plays games to conceal a horrifically-high death rate for a certain feature. It is known for taking control from a driver actively policing the feature and killing them.

Do you:
A) Sell the car
B) Record yourself using that feature

why would i sell car if i love car

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Potato Salad posted:

Picture this:

There's a car manufacturer that plays games to conceal a horrifically-high death rate for a certain feature. It is known for taking control from a driver actively policing the feature and killing them.

Do you:
A) Sell the car
B) Record yourself using that feature

C. Make a porn involving that feature.

Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored



Lord Stimperor posted:

How bad are the Tesla solar roofs compared to normal solar roofs? In the northern European swamps and wastes they typically pay off within a bit more than a decade, I read. Sunshine states can't be worse than that

luckily, the roofs can be roofs for other houses when you go to work so if anything they could start making money by next year

Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored



infernal machines posted:

lasagna-rear end cooling solution

pizza, pasta, put it in… my crack?

Munkeymon
Aug 14, 2003

Motherfucker's got an
armor-piercing crowbar! Rigoddamndicu𝜆ous.



Nfcknblvbl posted:

really bad

https://news.energysage.com/tesla-solar-roof-price-vs-solar-panels/

even at the best case scenario where you have to replace your roof any way it's still way more expensive to install, and the power output from the cells is only about 2/3 of regular ones

the impression I get from their site is that it's largely the aesthetic appeal of having a fairly normal looking roof but that also makes electricity

this ignores that having panels on the roof is becoming normal in a lot of places but he's a millionaire so how would he know what's normal

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002


the lawyer just threw that in there in the likely vain hope that discovery will uncover something

if he didn't include it, and later finds something he wants to use to claim that the statements were true, he might not be able to if that wasn't in his original answer

raminasi
Jan 25, 2005

a last drink with no ice

BangersInMyKnickers posted:

there is typcally excess capacity on those systems at night and the emissions are being generated regardless. it's starting to change as gas turbines and reciprocating engines replace boiler systems but its slow

where does the capacity go otherwise

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have a thing for courageous dongles

raminasi posted:

where does the capacity go otherwise

Just goes up the stack as heat. Some places will try to capture it in a pump storage project or something but those are rare. You can usually tell what your situation is by looking at the differential between the on and off-peak rates for large industrial customers. Places running mostly old boilers are wasting it overnight will cut heavy discounts for off-peak rates. If the rates are mostly the same between them then your provider likely has good balancing (renewables, gas turbines, peakers) and charging overnight will result in some net addition to emissions. This is typically the case in states that have put heavier regulations on emissions (east/west coast) while a lot of the flyover states haven't done poo poo and charging a car overnight is actually a net benefit because of the boilers its coming from helps it balance out demand against production.

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde
wasn't that the idea behind the muskman's powerwall

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

wasn't that the idea behind the muskman's powerwall

he ain't gonna be the one that saves me

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Nfcknblvbl
Jul 15, 2002

the powerwall's main purpose is to store energy from solar but they did also enable off-peak energy storage, they're not cheap at $7k each, and a typical american home with electric vehicles will need at least 3 of them

Nfcknblvbl fucked around with this message at 18:17 on May 15, 2019

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