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I Am Just a Box posted:Disappointed, though not surprised, by keeping the same opaque splat names. Mummy needs to cut down on the Egyptian similarly to how Werewolf needs to cut down on usage of the First Tongue. Idk, I liked all the Egyptian. I especially liked that it didn't default to the more familiar Greek names for things. Kemet rather than Egypt, Azar instead of Osiris, etc. The internal affairs cop is a weird misapplication of metaphor. The Maa-Kep should be metaphorically internal affairs cops, always on the lookout for disobedience to the Judges. Making them actual internal affairs cops seems like it would be a pain for your cult to manage. You're this artisan from the extremely distant past that the cult can call up as an asset to do the judges' will and you don't fit that well into modern society, at least until you remember your past Descents.
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Octavo posted:Idk, I liked all the Egyptian. I especially liked that it didn't default to the more familiar Greek names for things. Kemet rather than Egypt, Azar instead of Osiris, etc. I'm not fond of it specifically because it's not Egypt. It's not Kemet, either. It's an ancient, fictional civilization that predates Egypt and I don't like Mummy basically ancient-aliens-ing Egypt, but with necromancers instead of aliens.
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May 14, 2019 21:14
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I don't mind the faux proto-Egyptian stuff, but 1e suffered the same exotic jargon overload that Woof does, so I hope they can pull back on that a bit.
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Using "Azar" instead of "Osiris" is one thing. Using "Mesen-Nebu" instead of "Alchemists" is quite another.
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Running TT Mage 2E in a "LARPletop" style for my local buds in New Orleans. It's set in the whole Fallen World, but NOLA and its surrounding area is the "home base" Looking to expand my Mystery list. I can make hooks out of any and all of these concepts, but I've just been jotting down a list that's supposed to be anything and everything they might run into. All I need is a few words for a hook into a mystery that can develop into something full-blown. I've combed the thread for some inspiration, and thanks for that! Here's what I have so far: -The Interdimensional Torture Barge -TempleOS -The Beast/The Blood -The Moon -The Hedge -Number Stations -The Grasping One (rogue Phantasm luring victims to the Hollow it squats on to toss them into its mental dungeon) -Baal-Haddad, Herd Guardian -Harab Seraphel, Devourers of Burning Bodies -Mx. Talleyrand the Unchained -Morgellon's Syndrome -Lucifuge -Augusto Vidal (who lives in a Malleus Maleficarum compound in the former 9th ward) -Flesh Interfaces (inspired initially by the Reddit thing yes) -Kendrick Melançon, Wolf-blooded (our resident Forge Master's Retainer boyfriend w/ Second Skin) -The Oahspe Kosmon Bible If you guys have any two to six-word concept hooks for Mysteries, I'd be glad to see them! If you can help me better figure out what Arcana correspond to these, I'd also appreciate it.
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do NOT jack off posted:Running TT Mage 2E in a "LARPletop" style for my local buds in New Orleans. It's set in the whole Fallen World, but NOLA and its surrounding area is the "home base" Looking to expand my Mystery list. I can make hooks out of any and all of these concepts, but I've just been jotting down a list that's supposed to be anything and everything they might run into. All I need is a few words for a hook into a mystery that can develop into something full-blown. I've combed the thread for some inspiration, and thanks for that! Krispy Kreme is memetically powerful. Dunkin Donuts rules the East. In Houston a local chain stands over both of them. What gives?
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That Old Tree posted:I don't mind the faux proto-Egyptian stuff, but 1e suffered the same exotic jargon overload that Woof does, so I hope they can pull back on that a bit. This is what I meant. I don't mind the flavor of the proto-Egyptian stuff, I'm down with Azar and Esit and Anpu. But those are short proper names. I do not want to have to deal with the main names of a major splat being Maa-Kep or Shadow of Pillars, and having to remember what distinguishes them from the Mesen-Nebu who are Born of Gold. I don't like that 1e's X-splat requires you to keep track of whether the ren is falcon-headed or jackal-headed, and whether the ba was the essence or the spirit. The most central, frequently referenced concepts in Mummy are the ones with the most opaque, hard-to-remember names. I don't even object to keeping the old names as secondary monikers. Sure, tell me that the architects were formally called the Tef-Aabhi. But put "architects" up front so I remember who they are. I should only need to know Tef-Aabhi for when I'm making an immersive and poetic reference to them, not when I'm looking up who gets which powers again.
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I Am Just a Box posted:This is what I meant. I don't mind the flavor of the proto-Egyptian stuff, I'm down with Azar and Esit and Anpu. But those are short proper names. I do not want to have to deal with the main names of a major splat being Maa-Kep or Shadow of Pillars, and having to remember what distinguishes them from the Mesen-Nebu who are Born of Gold. I don't like that 1e's X-splat requires you to keep track of whether the ren is falcon-headed or jackal-headed, and whether the ba was the essence or the spirit. The most central, frequently referenced concepts in Mummy are the ones with the most opaque, hard-to-remember names. I guess some of this is just a personal aesthetic reaction on my part. I find the first tongue stuff in Werewolf hard to keep track of, but I like saying the various words in mummy. Shuankhsen and Neter-Khertet are just more fun to say than Hungry Mummy or Anubis' Twilight.
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Basic Chunnel posted:Every splat has that one piece of media that encapsulates the aesthetic for new players. In Vampire you’ve got, idk, Blade 2. With Changeling you’ve got Hellraiser, Hunter gets Aliens or… Blade. With Demon, the batshit second half of the Tommyknockers, etc So what would you say Werewolf is? Fight Club? (Someone in the last thread said that is a really good model for Werewolf.)
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TheNamedSavior posted:So what would you say Werewolf is? Fight Club? (Someone in the last thread said that is a really good model for Werewolf.) The Sopranos. Defending turf, rival families, second life you try to keep from your family, rage issues.
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Omnicrom posted:Anne Rice's vampire Jesus wept. Good lord that sounds like an utter clusterfuck. Paradox owns the entire World of Darkness IP, that includes both WoD and ChroD. White Wolf is the brand management arm used to license that IP. They are wholly owned by Paradox now, and approve/veto plans and provide the bibles that the various writing has to be done in. They currently are licensing to companies that pitch: * Modiphius has what could be considered the 'primary license' for WoD tabletop, due to their distribution channels and ability to do full print runs. They're currently selling the V5 core, Cam and Anarch books (both in physical and PDF, as WW just lifted the mandate to not sell those books and has allowed the books to go back into print under Modiphius' control) and have 4 more books in development. * Onyx Path Productions licenses both ChroD and WoD. They have 2 books in development for V5, and whatever they're developing for ChroD right now. * Hardsuit Labs has licensed a video game to create Bloodlines 2. * Big Bad Wolf has just licensed a Vampire 'narrative RPG' game that was just announced. * A couple of other companies have licensed 2 different VtM boardgames
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MoonKnight posted:Paradox owns the entire World of Darkness IP, that includes both WoD and ChroD. Thank you, that clears up a lot.
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Omnicrom posted:Thank you, that clears up a lot. You're welcome. I did forget to add: * White Wolf was originally going to be writing only the core books in house to serve as 'bibles' for everything else, and license everything else. It looks like now they'll maintain the bibles separate from RPG books, and people can pitch for the various other core books.
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Basic Chunnel posted:Stranger Things I don't see the connection.
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Five Eyes posted:Cyclical purge Gehenna is from early (like 1e) Masquerade, IIRC, except that I seem to recall it worked the other way around - the Antes wake up and eat all of their non-Methuselah descendants, then go back to sleep for another 2000 years. (It occurs to me that this setup also makes the Camarilla vs. Sabbat feud even bleaker, since it means that the Sabbat is basically a scam run by elders to persuade younger vampires to do the legwork of killing the Antediluvians for them so the elders don't have to stick their neck out, whilst the Camarilla's denial that Gehenna is a thing means that it's most likely run by elders who either succumbed to the dominate last time around or are going along with it for their own reasons.) Chernobyl Peace Prize posted:IIRC: That said, looking at the Monday Meeting Notes it looks like Onyx Path is working on a stack of V5 material, so it looks like Modiphius turned straight around and sublicenced OPP to get those books done. Whether that accounts for everything Modiphius intend to do or not is another question. Basic Chunnel posted:Every splat has that one piece of media that encapsulates the aesthetic for new players. In Vampire you’ve got, idk, Blade 2. With Changeling you’ve got Hellraiser, Hunter gets Aliens or… Blade. With Demon, the batshit second half of the Tommyknockers, etc
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do NOT jack off posted:Running TT Mage 2E in a "LARPletop" style for my local buds in New Orleans. It's set in the whole Fallen World, but NOLA and its surrounding area is the "home base" Looking to expand my Mystery list. I can make hooks out of any and all of these concepts, but I've just been jotting down a list that's supposed to be anything and everything they might run into. All I need is a few words for a hook into a mystery that can develop into something full-blown. I've combed the thread for some inspiration, and thanks for that! Abyssal money (Prime and Matter)
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do NOT jack off posted:Running TT Mage 2E in a "LARPletop" style for my local buds in New Orleans. It's set in the whole Fallen World, but NOLA and its surrounding area is the "home base" Looking to expand my Mystery list. I can make hooks out of any and all of these concepts, but I've just been jotting down a list that's supposed to be anything and everything they might run into. All I need is a few words for a hook into a mystery that can develop into something full-blown. I've combed the thread for some inspiration, and thanks for that! - Eater of Souls devouring marching bands.
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Warthur posted:For Demon my go-to analogy is that it's the Matrix and you're a rogue Agent Smith. I use this one because it's a more common point of reference, but the best model for Demon is definitely Person of Interest.
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For anyone who wants to get deep(er) into practical applications of vampchat, my Vampire: the Requiem chronicle is looking for a replacement player. Please peruse the game's thread to get a sense of what we're about and if you want to jump in.
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Warthur posted:The Camarilla's denial that Gehenna is a thing means that it's most likely run by elders who either succumbed to the dominate last time around or are going along with it for their own reasons... I think the second was roughly the idea for the original notion. The "anarchs vs. elders/the Cam establishment" conflict was more central at first (predating the sect feud or really any details on the Sabbat), and having the Methuselahs keep the periodic purges a secret plays into it: they've created a hierarchical scheme where their progeny do the poo poo jobs today in the hopes of some secure role in the future, but the real elders know that future will never come, and that for most the "immortality" the Embrace provides has a definite shelf-life. To the eldest of elders, only they and their peers are "true" vampires - the rest of the Cam pyramid are just glorified disposable thralls, fated to be devoured by Granddad. Then, after Gehenna, they callously cultivate a new crop of pawns, tell them the same lies, and the cycle starts over. It'd be a pretty chilling take on the Methuselahs (and aesthetically pleasing, as they'd be treating vampires the way vampires treat ghouls.) The prohibition on researching Gehenna (read: realizing the whole system is a scam and deciding to eat the vampire rich) survives into the rest of the game line, but the reasons behind it kind of don't - the Cam of, say, Revised ought to defuse the millennarian sentiment by ridiculing it, not outlawing it. Five Eyes fucked around with this message at 18:40 on May 15, 2019 |
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kaynorr posted:For anyone who wants to get deep(er) into practical applications of vampchat, my Vampire: the Requiem chronicle is looking for a replacement player. Please peruse the game's thread to get a sense of what we're about and if you want to jump in. I tossed you a PM.
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My Hardcover Scion books have arrived. Idk what I'll do with them right now, but I have them which is important.
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If you want to sell them on, let me know. (edit: Reason being, I was going to upgrade my PDF to the hardcovers, but forgot to before orders were locked) SirFozzie fucked around with this message at 01:54 on May 16, 2019 |
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Yeah, I got that box and I was all, "Wow, this Geist book is heavy!" Nope, it was Origins and Hero which is still cool af
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I really need to read up on the Teotl at some point.
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citybeatnik posted:I really need to read up on the Teotl at some point. Broke: The most bloodthirsty of gods. Woke: The most Metal of gods. Bespoke: The most heroic and selfless of all the gods.
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I still love the game's interpretation of Bast as the put-upon troubleshooter with maybe a drinking problem.
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So late last year, there was a Humble Bundle for a bunch of Vampire: The Masquerade books. I donated a couple of dollars to get some of the books, and along with it, I got a code for a 'bronze badge' for the WorldOfDarkness.com, which I think let you subscribe to read splatbooks or something on the website. Since I don't play the tabletop game, does anyone want the code? If so, I can PM it to you.
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Max Wilco posted:So late last year, there was a Humble Bundle for a bunch of Vampire: The Masquerade books. I donated a couple of dollars to get some of the books, and along with it, I got a code for a 'bronze badge' for the WorldOfDarkness.com, which I think let you subscribe to read splatbooks or something on the website. That website is already dead and gone.
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Rand Brittain posted:That website is already dead and gone. Didn't they have some form of compensation available, though? I wouldn't be surprised if the window for that was long gone, but maybe not.
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I'm aware of some of the system issues of Scion and just in case it doesn't work out for me, is there are PbtA hack that would possibly work with some of the setting and fluff of Scion?
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Xelkelvos posted:I'm aware of some of the system issues of Scion and just in case it doesn't work out for me, is there are PbtA hack that would possibly work with some of the setting and fluff of Scion? There's one in development called Demigods.
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Warthur posted:That said, looking at the Monday Meeting Notes it looks like Onyx Path is working on a stack of V5 material, so it looks like Modiphius turned straight around and sublicenced OPP to get those books done. Whether that accounts for everything Modiphius intend to do or not is another question. They have their own license, not working with/under Modiphius. As far as 'stacks' of V5 material? The Chicago Folio/Dossier and Streets Run Red are all part of their Chicago by Night Kickstarter campaign, and Cults of the Blood Gods was announced. So two books and some PDF materials to supplement one. I wouldn't call that 'stacks' of V5 material in any stretch.
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Xelkelvos posted:I'm aware of some of the system issues of Scion and just in case it doesn't work out for me, is there are PbtA hack that would possibly work with some of the setting and fluff of Scion? The Legend points thing does seem like a substantial power hurdle but also like it was deliberately meant to make it so that going from legend 1 to legend 4 was a major upgrade even if they didn't hand you a ton of new powers along the way.
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Rand Brittain posted:That website is already dead and gone. Oh. Well, I'm sorry I didn't think to give it away before now.  I forgot that I had it, and just remembered the other day.
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That website was incredibly weird because somebody recreated, fixed, or found a bunch of Old World of Darkness PDFs that were previously only available as lovely scans and put them up for sale without telling anybody. Like, we're talking dozens of books that were only available on this one website that nobody knew about, which now no longer exists, and which haven't shown up on DriveThru yet. (Matt McElroy tells me that they basically sent him a giant heap of files when the website shut down and he hasn't had time to sort them all out into usable order yet.) Like, they actually made an OEF version of the Revised corebook and didn't think it was worth mentioning it to anybody.
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