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I don’t see how locking the wheels can end well. Let’s do it!
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Getting up was no issue, so getting down should be even easier. Continue down the hill.
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May 15, 2019 08:00
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I don't know what locking the wheels means, but let's do it!
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May 15, 2019 09:34
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Continue down the hill and use the speed gained from barreling downhill to make up time
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May 15, 2019 13:43
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Install an extra wagon axle now to absorb the damage that continuing down the hill will cause.
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May 15, 2019 13:50
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RBA Starblade posted:Powerslide our way down If it makes me laugh, let's do it.
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May 15, 2019 14:47
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Commander Keene posted:Let's see what locking the wheels gets us.
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oldskool posted:Continue down the hill and use the speed gained from barreling downhill to make up time Do this.
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May 15, 2019 16:37
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Locking the wheels! Steady as she goes....png) gently caress! .png) Continuing down the hill as normal without locking the wheels gets us going fine. We make it to Ash Hollow, which has been the site of human habitation for millennia thanks to a nearby spring and cave for shelter. This area is predominately populated by Lakota Sioux as of 1850. .png) Suddenly, one of our oxen steps in a rut and gets injured! What do we do with it?
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May 15, 2019 18:25
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Continue on No oxen left behind. Unless they die. In which case we eat them, thereby carrying them on with us in nutrient form. 
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oldskool posted:Continue on  I agree in full.
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May 15, 2019 19:12
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Rest awhile. In the absence of a “convert to meat” option, my animal-loving heart can’t just abandon them.
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May 15, 2019 20:10
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Someone needs to code a spinoff where you're a scavenger living on the stuff that falls off passing wagons. Thousands of suckers bumbling west to die of frostbite and dysentery. Meanwhile in your camp 10 mi west of Independence, MO, you're sleeping warm on a dragon's hoard of gently used bacon, laudanum and grandfather clocks.
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May 15, 2019 21:07
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It was me. I ate the 10 kilos of bacon. And the cheese. And the beans...
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May 15, 2019 21:20
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Mechanical Ape posted:Someone needs to code a spinoff where you're a scavenger living on the stuff that falls off passing wagons. Setting up nets downstream from the ford points seems like it would be a good idea.
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May 15, 2019 21:25
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Father and his girl, both are heading west. Tie the boy and the horses, then use the skills of the wolf. Don't use bullets, get close enough you can use your knife.
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May 15, 2019 21:39
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Rest a while. I'm not biased at all.
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TheMcD posted:Rest a while. I'm not biased at all. How’s that peppermint treating you?
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May 15, 2019 22:10
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I'm still curious, how would locking the wheels help you descend a slope? Unless you're hoping that friction alone will let your wagon more gently skate down the slope, I can't understand what the advantage would be compared to a more controlled descent by somehow controlling the speed by using those famous ropes/chains/anchors.
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May 15, 2019 22:31
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Covski posted:I'm still curious, how would locking the wheels help you descend a slope? Unless you're hoping that friction alone will let your wagon more gently skate down the slope, I can't understand what the advantage would be compared to a more controlled descent by somehow controlling the speed by using those famous ropes/chains/anchors. Maybe it works better in winter?
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Covski posted:I'm still curious, how would locking the wheels help you descend a slope? Unless you're hoping that friction alone will let your wagon more gently skate down the slope, I can't understand what the advantage would be compared to a more controlled descent by somehow controlling the speed by using those famous ropes/chains/anchors. I believe you’re exactly right. You lock the wheels and gently ease the wagon down so it doesn’t roll out of control.
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May 15, 2019 22:46
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Kerning Chameleon posted:Maybe it works better in winter? in a four-ox open cart through the fords we go crying all the way
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May 15, 2019 22:49
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Would prevent the wagon from racing down the hill out of control since you effectively need to drag it down. With the downside being that with the wheels no longer able to turn they instead become pivot points, so if you had the cargo shift around and too much friction on the wheels you could just flip it over with a poorly timed yank. It would also be nearly impossible to turn if you had to zig zag down.
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I'm still confused why anchoring the wagon, using ropes/chains, and locking the wheels are mutually exclusive options here, but maybe I'm not up on my mid 1800's wagon terminology! It seems to me like a combination of all three options would be the smart course of action here. Edit: I guess depending on the definition of "anchor" here, because that's a kind of vague word. Covski fucked around with this message at 23:10 on May 15, 2019 |
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May 15, 2019 22:59
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I'm not familiar with this particular hill but if you had nothing to anchor the ropes to then it wouldn't be much help; it may not always be an option. Plus if your group had no idea how to build a pulley, or how they work, it wouldn't be an option. Psychotic Weasel fucked around with this message at 23:05 on May 15, 2019 |
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May 15, 2019 23:02
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Also the chains were what locked the wheels when you did, so you might only have enough chains for one of two options. The wheels had no brakes built in.
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With a tie, I chose the fastest option and continued on. It doesn't seem like our ox is affected...yet..png) .png) Over the next few days we pass by Courthouse, Jail, and Chimney Rocks. Chimney Rock was referred to by Lakota Sioux as "the elk penis." .png) More bluffs to cross over. .png) There's a trading post! Do we need anything? We're about 1/3 of the way down the trail in a month and a half.
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May 16, 2019 05:15
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If they have it, buy Coffee, Bacon, Laudanum, and Grandfather Clocks.
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We need coffee and laudanum, obviously. More specifically, what are our supplies like right now? We lost some stuff and it's been six weeks.
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May 16, 2019 05:30
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Purchase at least one of anything we don’t already own from what’s for sale.
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May 16, 2019 05:39
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Vavrek posted:We need coffee and laudanum, obviously. More specifically, what are our supplies like right now? We lost some stuff and it's been six weeks. I second this, we need an inventory check. Then you need to dump everything except for a rifle, bullets, and gunpowder (and grandfather clocks), we can totally live off the land from here.
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May 16, 2019 06:09
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Yeah, we need a sitrep before we choose what to buy. Replacing food stores lost when the wagon tipped is probably a good idea, though.
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May 16, 2019 09:03
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Food, drugs, time. We got money, let's spend it.
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May 16, 2019 11:15
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Our current inventory:quote:Money: $761.87
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I'm seeing a disturbing lack of laudanum and extra clocks
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May 16, 2019 18:23
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We need to buy: All their laudanum 113 pounds of bacon 78 pounds of cheese 2 boxes of 20 bullets 1 grandfather clock
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One thing I've always wondered about this journey, what happens when you reach the destination? Do you need money to buy some land? Do they have to build a house from scratch? How do they not starve/freeze to death in winter?
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May 16, 2019 18:45
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More oxen, more boxes of bullets, more laudanum. And another clock.
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Poil posted:One thing I've always wondered about this journey, what happens when you reach the destination? Do you need money to buy some land? Do they have to build a house from scratch? How do they not starve/freeze to death in winter? A bit of both, from what I understand. There were big companies and brokers who sold or leased parcels of land to people before they went, and others who went out there to grab land to sell or lease to new arrivals. In some areas there were farms already sort-of established with some sort of rudimentary housing, in others you had to build everything when/if you made it there. If you were early enough to get good land, and brought good supplies with you, and travelled at the right time, you could be established and have some sort of crop before winter. Otherwise you and your family died and someone else got to buy your land and try their luck, sucks to be you. Also depended on why you were going out there - some wanted their own places, some wanted to work for others, some believed they'd strike gold as soon as they arrived. I could be wrong, I've only read partially fictionalised accounts/historical novels, but that's the impression I got.
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IllegallySober posted:More oxen, more boxes of bullets, more laudanum. And another clock. Also I'm the 1/2 pound of gunpowder per bullet.
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