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cowofwar posted:From what I’ve heard FInTRAC reports basically go in to a shredder. Sure but it should still be done.
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vyelkin posted:Oh man I flipped through the Green Party platform and wrote up a whole post about how much they suck and then the forums ate it. I seriously and 100% want to do this, but the greens in Canada are far too hosed to ever be of use. We need to leverage this populist groundswell to create a hard left green movement with a strong socialist foundation, to counteract the hard-right wave which is washing over the country and to prepare us for the shitshow of the 2030's. But I don't have the loving money to start a political party, it's like $50,000 up front and then some fascist loving goon such as Swagger would dig up my probations from 2014 and dump them to the National Post.
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We need a good leftist party with a kickin rad name, because every other "left" party has some kind of hosed baggage in one province or another. Let's brainstorm.
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May 16, 2019 01:24
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The Canadian Leftist Action Party, or the CLAP.
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The national socialist Canadian wor- er, never mind.
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Rime posted:I seriously and 100% want to do this, but the greens in Canada are far too hosed to ever be of use. We need to leverage this populist groundswell to create a hard left green movement with a strong socialist foundation, to counteract the hard-right wave which is washing over the country and to prepare us for the shitshow of the 2030's.
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Rime posted:I seriously and 100% want to do this, but the greens in Canada are far too hosed to ever be of use. We need to leverage this populist groundswell to create a hard left green movement with a strong socialist foundation, to counteract the hard-right wave which is washing over the country and to prepare us for the shitshow of the 2030's. Why not the Communist Party of Canada? They seem pretty legit
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I was all for bringing back the CCF until Erin Weir stood a little too close to it.
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Kindest Forums User posted:Why not the Communist Party of Canada? They seem pretty legit They're very pro-China in every sense of the word.
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Pleads posted:We need a good leftist party with a kickin rad name, because every other "left" party has some kind of hosed baggage in one province or another. New Deal Party ah wait... Leftist Party of Cana -- gently caress Looking up names of existing parties, I learned that Canada apparently has a Socialist Party that was all the rage in 1930. Seriously though, I feel like Labour Party is the best way of focusing on the worker without drawing obvious parallels to the USSR for your opponents. It seems that a lot of commonwealth countries agree as well.
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The best plan would probably to take over and bring the Social Credit party back to life, since it is a neutral branding and is established in the Canadian mind as a "party", but anyone old enough to remember the SoCreds is mostly either dead or loving senile. Which is good, since it was a conservative-populist party at the best of times and pivoting that to hard left green ideals might prove challenging. Rime fucked around with this message at 01:48 on May 16, 2019 |
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May 16, 2019 01:46
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It took him long enough, Conrad's been hardcore pro-trump for years now. Maybe he can go back to the US and stay there.
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Entorwellian posted:They're very pro-China in every sense of the word. I'm honestly curious what you mean by this. I've just started following them so I would like to know more. China is barely mentioned, if at all, on their website, or even in the People's Voice periodically. The few meet and greets I've been at, and when I heard their leader, Elizabeth Rowley speak, China wasn't mentioned specifically. The only time was when a Chinese guy came to a BBQ and talked about class struggle in China.
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If anybody has insight into the Communist Party of Canada I'd love to know. Like I said, I've just started following them recently and they're pretty impressive, especially considering how other country's parties are disasters. The CCP is surprisingly active, and their rhetoric and support for environmental, indigenous, gender, and of course economic issues always seem on point. Outside of Quebec Solidarie, they seem like the most active and established socialist party in Canada, and not only that, they're the only ones with radical policy that can actually tackle climate change. Is there any reason we shouldn't support them?
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Kindest Forums User posted:I'm honestly curious what you mean by this. I've just started following them so I would like to know more. Their twitter was calling for freeing Weng Manzhou the night she was arrested in Vancouver, and calling for people to protest her incarceration.
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Rime posted:I seriously and 100% want to do this, but the greens in Canada are far too hosed to ever be of use. We need to leverage this populist groundswell to create a hard left green movement with a strong socialist foundation, to counteract the hard-right wave which is washing over the country and to prepare us for the shitshow of the 2030's. Why do you think it takes 50,000 up front? As best I can tell there's basically a requirement for 250+ signed members, ~4 officers, and audited annual financials. Accountants shouldn't run that much and theoretically that could be provided by sympathizers. Then there are election deposits but that's only 1500 or so (going from memory there, though.)
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Entorwellian posted:Their twitter was calling for freeing Weng Manzhou the night she was arrested in Vancouver, and calling for people to protest her incarceration. uhhhh. is that seriously it? The arrest of Manzhou was American imperialism flexing it's muscle. Like, I'm sure the Party could provide a little nuance and be hesitant to support a billionaire. But this isn't exactly what I'd call very pro-china. And, shouldn't they support China? It's a country of over a billion people, with many of them dedicated socialists. China has its problem, but maybe we shouldn't throw them in the trash. Like, do you support the arrest of Manzhou? Are you supporting the Trump's United States of America over China? Or are you just neutral about the issue due to her being a wealthy businesswoman, and would rather see a communist party take a different line?
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James Baud posted:Why do you think it takes 50,000 up front? I remember the costs adding up fast when I last looked into it a decade ago, but that was a decade ago so I'm probably talking out my rear end here. Kindest Forums User posted:uhhhh. is that seriously it? The arrest of Manzhou was American imperialism flexing it's muscle. Like, I'm sure the Party could provide a little nuance and be hesitant to support a billionaire. But this isn't exactly what I'd call very pro-china. 
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Did somebody buy Ardent Communist a name change or something?
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Rime posted:I remember the costs adding up fast when I last looked into it a decade ago, but that was a decade ago so I'm probably talking out my rear end here. Are you saying there are no socialists in China?
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Kindest Forums User posted:uhhhh. is that seriously it? The arrest of Manzhou was American imperialism flexing it's muscle. Like, I'm sure the Party could provide a little nuance and be hesitant to support a billionaire. But this isn't exactly what I'd call very pro-china. The gently caress is this poo poo? No they shouldn't. Are you a Chinese expat or have family in the PLA? Entorwellian fucked around with this message at 02:40 on May 16, 2019 |
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Kindest Forums User posted:uhhhh. is that seriously it? The arrest of Manzhou was American imperialism flexing it's muscle. Like, I'm sure the Party could provide a little nuance and be hesitant to support a billionaire. But this isn't exactly what I'd call very pro-china. Hope you got your $0.50 for this.
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PittTheElder posted:Did somebody buy Ardent Communist a name change or something? I'm legitimately curious about the Communist Party of Canada. I used to be a diehard NDP supporter, but they are simply not a socialist party. Currently, living here in Canada, my only options for a socialist party is the Communist Party of Canada. And considering the immediate response from the thread, I'm curios why they receive so much antagonism. I actually want to know, because I spend a lot of time doing environmental activism, and I want start/connecting that with political work. But I want to support a party I believe in, and the communist party is the only radical party that I can see. What is the problem with them?
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Lemme blow your mind here... China isn't actually communist/socialist. And if that is the only way "communism" actually can survive in this world, I don't want to live under it or anywhere near it.
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Entorwellian posted:The gently caress is this poo poo? Here is there article regarding their arrest. They're protesting the fact that US Government forced Canada to do an illegal arrest. It has barely anything to do with China itself, other than the mention that US is asserting it's dominance through the trade war. Should the Americans be allowed to make extra-judicial arrests, just cause because you don't like the nationality of the person being arrested. or is the more to this I'm missing? http://communist-party.ca/statement/3009
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Postess with the Mostest posted:https://twitter.com/compartycanada/status/947266970348675073 Should we invade North Korea? That second tweet is dumb. But like, is that the worst you could find?
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I. I just can't. I Can't. loving L.O.L. at seriously thinking China. loving China. Is socialist. In TYOOL 2019. For Reals? Where is your rock because I deeply desire to crawl under it and see if it turns me into a climate change denier.
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Kindest Forums User posted:Should we invade North Korea? Before I invest any more effort, what would it take for you to think it's bad?
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The Communist Party of Canada mostly just doesn't exist as a political party. Why are you stanning for the CPC and not the CPC-ML, who got more than twice the votes in 2015
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Kindest Forums User posted:Here is there article regarding their arrest. They're protesting the fact that US Government forced Canada to do an illegal arrest. It has barely anything to do with China itself, other than the mention that US is asserting it's dominance through the trade war. Ok now I know you're trolling.
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Yeah, come on guys, I'm not going to buy a name change when I've got such a great and honest handle already? Although I'd have figured that the Communist Party of Canada was the one that was supported by the former Soviet Union, and the Communist Party of Canada (Maoist) would have been the one that was supported by China. Personally I don't have much of a problem with a communist party seeking foreign support (so long as their interests don't conflict). It's not like local businessmen are going to support them, and class consciousness is on a very gradual rise and won't be able to financially support a political party capable of taking on both the other political parties and the entire business class.
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Isn't CPC-ML the one controlled by a crazy old lady and aggressively follows some weird splinter branch of the ideology while adhering to a personality cult for a dead revolutionary?
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The Butcher posted:Lemme blow your mind here... China isn't actually communist/socialist. Rime posted:I. I just can't. I Can't. I never said that China was communist. Can you guys please point to the post where I said that? Because I didn't say that, and it's weird that you're fixated on it. I said "there's a billion people in china, and there are many dedicated socialists there". As in, there's people worth showing solidarity towards. I never said anything about the government of China, or it's current economic structure. I was making the point that maybe that the world's most populace country has socialists worth supporting. Or are the Chinese a bunch of worthless imbeciles that are thoroughly poisoned by capitalism and are completely hopeless.
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