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somepartsareme
Mar 10, 2012

Diggle Hell is a Real
(Swingin') Place

LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:

I don’t remember rape being a huge part of ffxiv at any point in time. Lots of dumb dick joke puns, but not rape.

there's some uncomfortable casual jokes about it, like in literally the first dungeon and also some of the parts around garlean soldiers in ala mhigo. there's also yotsuyu's whole backstory and all

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Hogama
Sep 3, 2011

Tashilicious
Jul 17, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:

I don’t remember rape being a huge part of ffxiv at any point in time. Lots of dumb dick joke puns, but not rape.

Maybe that was during 1.0?

Yotstuyu has a fair bit of it implied.

Also the women in Sastasha.

It's not a huge thing, but it does pop up from time to time.

somepartsareme
Mar 10, 2012

Diggle Hell is a Real
(Swingin') Place

the cartoonish redacting like it's an SCP article has me feeling like this is fake

slev
Apr 6, 2009

ah yes a 5 minute cooldown on verraise definitely seems real

THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

I'm so glad I picked bard, because WITHOUT EXCEPTION any time you sit down in a large group of people and bring out some drums and start slamming random notes people get excited and gather around and sometimes pull out their own drums too and it reminds me that there is still a reason to have online games


LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:

I don’t remember rape being a huge part of ffxiv at any point in time. Lots of dumb dick joke puns, but not rape.

Maybe that was during 1.0?

I literally just finished a quest (The Little Ala Mihgan questline) where the Ala Mihgans get angry because a girl gets raped and says they all watched me and laughed during it and it kiiinda came out of nowhere

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007

slev posted:

ah yes a 5 minute cooldown on verraise definitely seems real
its what I would do if I was yoship

somepartsareme
Mar 10, 2012

Diggle Hell is a Real
(Swingin') Place
why is leylines even a skill if you could just have it down permanently (according to the "unredacted" version i just saw in discord)

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


homeless snail posted:

its what I would do if I was yoship

Maybe they'll buff our potency to make up for it? :smith:

Though Enochian no longer being a skill, if true, would be hella awesome and might be what returns me to blm...

e: also the big early story instances I'm remembering is there's a quest in Ul'dah where you clearly have to rescue a woman from being raped, and then later on once you get to Mor Dhona there's another quest about someone who got raped.

Eimi fucked around with this message at 08:40 on May 16, 2019

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


homeless snail posted:

its what I would do if I was yoship
This isn't WoW, there's never been a problem with easy and frequent battle ressing. The stat penalty and potential DPS checks failed are the balancing factor.

Hogama
Sep 3, 2011
As we get closer to the Live letter and as it's known that a bunch of people got to pre-play for the Media Tour (to be officially disclosed after the Live), there's going to be a lot more uncles working at Square Enix.

Like this person's:

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007

Asimo posted:

This isn't WoW, there's never been a problem with easy and frequent battle ressing. The stat penalty and potential DPS checks failed are the balancing factor.
For sure, and they went and made a DPS that's a better raiser than anyone else in the game

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


... And?

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
And now they'll have an excuse for only ever using it once per 5 minutes despite people constantly dying.

Cabbit
Jul 19, 2001

Is that everything you have?

somepartsareme posted:

why is leylines even a skill if you could just have it down permanently (according to the "unredacted" version i just saw in discord)

Because Between the Lines makes it a teleportation beacon in addition to being a spellspeed buff?

BrightWing
Apr 27, 2012

Yes, he is quite mad.

Cabbit posted:

Because Between the Lines makes it a teleportation beacon in addition to being a spellspeed buff?

This is my safe spot. There are many like it, but this one is mine.

Shoehead
Sep 28, 2005

Wassup, Choom?
Ya need sumthin'?
I'm still way way behind in story quests but I just.. met the original party from pre ARR???

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

You Win!

somepartsareme posted:

the cartoonish redacting like it's an SCP article has me feeling like this is fake

there was no event on saturday so maybe they can time travel

Tashilicious
Jul 17, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Shoehead posted:

I'm still way way behind in story quests but I just.. met the original party from pre ARR???

They just look like the signature characters.

SwissArmyDruid
Feb 14, 2014

by sebmojo

Hogama posted:

FFXIV 2.0+ will forever exist in a weird time-warp of "five years after the calamity", no matter how many Heavensturn helmets the Warrior of Light collects.

I mean... At least FFXIV treats everything between the start of the game and the current patch better than WoW ever did. FFXIV, you have a sense of progression and storytelling, where if you pay attention to hints dropped ahead of time, you get rewarded when your expectations are paid off.

With WoW, you ignore everything, and burn your way to cap, then you play the latest patch without regard for anything that came before.

Schubalts
Nov 26, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life, I think I've gone too far.
Also bits of dialog changing depending on whether you've met characters in side/job quests before they show up in the MSQ.

Tamba
Apr 5, 2010

somepartsareme posted:

the cartoonish redacting like it's an SCP article has me feeling like this is fake

Here's the unredacted version

And the first redacted block directly contradicts the other leak where they said that all classes were available.

BisbyWorl
Jan 12, 2019

Knowledge is pain plus observation.


Tamba posted:

Here's the unredacted version

And the first redacted block directly contradicts the other leak where they said that all classes were available.

RDM raise on a 5 minute cooldown, but also SCH raise is unchanged meaning SMN raise is unchanged.

Fake leaks are always the best part of anything big.

Tashilicious
Jul 17, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Schubalts posted:

Also bits of dialog changing depending on whether you've met characters in side/job quests before they show up in the MSQ.

Entire populations have their dialogue change. Go around, once you're done 4.0, and talk to anyone who is Ala Mhigan.

Every single one has new dialogue.

The Doomhammer
Feb 14, 2010

edit: whoops, wrong thread

BrightWing
Apr 27, 2012

Yes, he is quite mad.
I need more!

RME
Feb 20, 2012

homeless snail posted:

For sure, and they went and made a DPS that's a better raiser than anyone else in the game

mostly a side effect of ruin having such a low potency compared to other raise class GCDs since damage comes from a lot of indirect sources

Shoehead
Sep 28, 2005

Wassup, Choom?
Ya need sumthin'?

Tashilicious posted:

They just look like the signature characters.

It really caught me by surprise

Givin
Jan 24, 2008
Givin of the Internet Hates You
The Mueller Report style of those fake leaks made it more fun. I got a couple laughs out of it as my brain immediately filled in the blanks with naughty filtered words. Like a good Mad Lib back in the day.

Failboattootoot
Feb 6, 2011

Enough of this nonsense. You are an important mayor and this absurd contraption has wasted enough of your time.

Asimo posted:

... And?

If the point of balance on rdm is that their damage sucks because they are a perfect rez bot, then sticking the rez on a long-rear end cooldown means they can buff rdm damage more or less guilt free.

Orcs and Ostriches
Aug 26, 2010


The Great Twist

If true, they somehow made lillies worse.

CuddlyZombie
Nov 6, 2005

I wuv your brains.

Those are definitely bullshit.

Orcs and Ostriches
Aug 26, 2010


The Great Twist
They seem pretty contradictory as well. Gonna wait until some official looking stuff comes out before I pay much attention.

Vitamean
May 31, 2012

all leaks should be true, at the same time

red mage gets both dualcast raise and 300 second raise, but what they don't tell you is the 300 sec version doesn't apply weakness

AMISH FRIED PIES
Mar 6, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
i prefer my leaks come with a dose of dunking on MrHappy

i am tim!
Jan 5, 2005

God damn it, where are my ant keys?! I'm gonna miss my flight!

somepartsareme posted:

there's some uncomfortable casual jokes about it, like in literally the first dungeon and also some of the parts around garlean soldiers in ala mhigo. there's also yotsuyu's whole backstory and all

It certainly comes up! The first dungeon has a lot of unfortunate implications given that Human Trafficking is the main money maker given for the pirates you’re fighting. It doesn’t help that some of the flavour text battle cries the trash mobs shout out includes “take the women alive,” and that there’s a slightly out of the way room that has a cage full of sad women huddled together sobbing. Most people don’t see that cage, but it’s definitely there!

There’s the street fight with the merchant in Ul’dah shortly before Ifrit where the jerk merchant is accusing a young mother of stealing her groceries and that he’ll forgive her if she serves him and his men. Pretty obvious they don’t mean tea, but we beat him up to a nice song. I guess I’m not surprised that this one gets glosses over.

The girl from Little Ala’mhigo all but says it. Literally, she comes crying to the leader of the town while you’re there and says everything but “and they raped me.” For this case I will say that in Stormblood there is a nice quest where you go back and escort settlers from Little Ala’mhigo back to their newly liberated country. This girl shows back up; she’s become a guard, and an excellent one at that, in honour of her friend that died in the 2.0 quest line. It was nice to see her come back and not have the rape be her only defining character trait, as I would expect such a character to wind up in most media.

Personally I feel my expectations for how an MMO plot handles this subject is just bottomed out after WoW and all of its super uncomfortable dragon-rape crap.

A Sometimes Food
Dec 8, 2010

I feel like it was a lot more of a problem in ARR and while Stormblood does bring up sexual violence it's mostly more appropriate? Like depicting it as another atrocity occupying colonial forces do seems fairly true to life and feels like an important thing to include to counter people agreeing with the Empire by reminding them of one of the many reasons imperialism is evil. Which people sadly had a hard time remembering.

SonicRulez
Aug 6, 2013

GOTTA GO FIST

The Grimace posted:

Dear Yoshida,

Please make Ten-Chi-Jin for Ninja less demanding.

Wish you were here,
Knives Jonquil

Please listen to this post, Yoshida-san. We need you.

Gruckles
Mar 11, 2013

Last year's Little Ladies' Day event also had an unexpectedly dark final quest about a young girl that was abducted and killed years ago, before the city officials hosted large, and guarded, public events for the holiday.

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Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

One of the 50-60 SAM quests is about saving a young woman about to be forced into becoming a sex slave for the Brass Blades.

Stormblood also has Arenvald or whatever his name is, the Scion with the white face paint, who tells you he's half Ala Mhigan, half Garlean because a Garlean soldier raped his mother.

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