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May 16, 2019 20:20
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clown shoes posted:What other girlfriend did he kill? Ah he ran off and snitched about the wildling attack to the night's watch. He basically killed Ygritte.
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May 16, 2019 20:20
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Yeah Jon at least indirectly hosed up everything for everyone. He snitched on Ygritte, on his own lineage to Sansa, and he's absolutely going to continue loving up in his last hour of screentime.
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May 16, 2019 20:25
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how much would change if he'd just hosed off with Ygritte when he had the chance
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May 16, 2019 20:26
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You could ask that same thing about most characters and their plotline of season ~4-6. Nothing would change because most of the characters just kind of hosed around from then til now, based on where they ended up.YaketySass posted:Kind of a dick move from Tyrion if he's the one to send Jon to the Wall instead of Jon deciding that on his own. I mean, the show already told us that Tyrion doesn't react kindly to his friends betraying his queen. He can betray his queen, though, because he doesn't like himself.
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May 16, 2019 20:27
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YaketySass posted:how much would change if he'd just hosed off with Ygritte when he had the chance Arya doesn't go to winterfell and kills cersei Ramsay marries Dany after he kills sansa and theon at castle black Night king never gets past the wall Jaime and brienne get married, dunno what else mastershakeman fucked around with this message at 20:38 on May 16, 2019 |
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May 16, 2019 20:36
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YaketySass posted:The Iron Wheelchair Shots have leaked of Bran getting his new Iron Throne.   
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May 16, 2019 20:42
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I'm not reading the last 2k posts ITT so can somebody briefly explain what happens in the finale of this trainwreck of a season please
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May 16, 2019 21:21
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Slutitution posted:I'm not reading the last 2k posts ITT so can somebody briefly explain what happens in the finale of this trainwreck of a season please Zohar posted:New summary of the finale from one of the accurate leakers from last episode. Seems like Tyrion pretty much wins in the end, with King Bran as his puppet
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May 16, 2019 21:25
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Show doesn't even have the energy anymore to be a glorious trainwreck, it's just limping to the station instead. It blew its wad on Dany's burnination.
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May 16, 2019 21:32
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Yeah that is safe and boring as gently caress, but at least Jon gets to kick it with Tormund again
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May 16, 2019 21:32
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Slutitution posted:I'm not reading the last 2k posts ITT so can somebody briefly explain what happens in the finale of this trainwreck of a season please Bram gets elected president of westeros. Jon kills Danny and lives out the rest of his life as a wildling lumberjack in the northern North. Arya sails west to discover new continents. I'm not kidding. This is not a joke.
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May 16, 2019 21:38
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The last scene of the series is Jon dining with Ghost and Tormund while a dadrock song plays. A guy with intense blue eyes is seen passing near, Jon looks up, cut to black.
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May 16, 2019 21:38
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Opferwurst posted:Bram gets elected president of westeros. Jon kills Danny and lives out the rest of his life as a wildling lumberjack in the northern North. Arya sails west to discover new continents. lmao Is Arya trying to find Middle Earth or something?
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May 16, 2019 21:39
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She's been east already so now she's going west. It's like poetry, it rhymes..very deep stuff, you wouldn't understand
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May 16, 2019 21:43
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Crossing vast oceans with their technological levels would require massive ressources and at least a vague idea of where they're going, but I suppose nothing's impossible for our girl. She's probably realized Martin is tropey as gently caress so it's guaranted there's a Not-America just off the map, full of golden cities and noble savages. When I first read the leaks mentioning Arya wandering the world I though it made some amount of sense, expecting here to become a murderhobo in Essos, but no, they had to make it dumber than that.
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May 16, 2019 21:44
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Zohar posted:New summary of the finale from one of the accurate leakers from last episode. Seems like Tyrion pretty much wins in the end, with King Bran as his puppet i hate this dumb show
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May 16, 2019 21:47
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wait wait I get Grey Worm going back to Essos with the Unsullied to free slaves but the Dothraki come with him? Are they just going back to the Great Grass Sea or are they ALSO freeing slaves, because that is extremely not their thing
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May 16, 2019 22:23
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Grey Worm is technically the last antagonist of the series lol
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May 16, 2019 22:25
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Pattonesque posted:wait wait I get Grey Worm going back to Essos with the Unsullied to free slaves well as it turn out the dothraki were wiped out during the night's king battle and ummmmm took "heavy casualties" in nanking's landing and so......there's none of them left ‾\_(ツ)_/‾
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May 16, 2019 22:26
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Pattonesque posted:wait wait I get Grey Worm going back to Essos with the Unsullied to free slaves Show ends on a montage of everyone having fun with their new friends, and one of the scenes is the Dothraki sacking Horn Hill.
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May 16, 2019 22:27
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Good grief, some of the things I jokingly/irritatedly suggested as what would happen, as attempts to come up with the dumbest/least satisfying resolutions possible, are actually in that spoiler list. Bran on the Iron Throne (though specifically because he's the real villain and this was all his plan, which I guess the show isn't doing, though that'd actually make more sense than him just getting it because why not), Drogon just loving off so the show doesn't have to figure out how to deal with him being a problem, Bronn actually getting Highgarden... And then there are parts that are even worse than my deliberately bad guesses. The actual ending is going to be even dumber and less satisfying than my attempt to come up with the dumbest and least satisfying ending that's remotely plausible. I had lost hope of a good ending after episode five and this is still worse than I thought it'd be. It's actually kind of amazing, and to cap it all off, I am legitimately unsure if this is D&D being deliberately bad because they clearly stopped caring and have shown spite towards the audience for a while now, or is this their actual, honest attempt at a good ending? I don't know which would be worse.
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May 16, 2019 22:30
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YaketySass posted:Grey Worm is technically the last antagonist of the series lol Villains: bluish white foreigner from the north, woman, woman, swarthy foreigner from the East Hell yeah
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May 16, 2019 22:33
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While D&D are pretty bad and the execution is terrible, the final plot points of each character are probably what Martin had in mind. And honestly I can't see how he could salvage this train wreak in the books Edit: lol, "in the books", as is they're coming out. shame on me for posting that
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May 16, 2019 22:35
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It'd save the series if the ending involved everyone being stuck with a pissed-off dragon nesting inside the city and refusing to leave.
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May 16, 2019 22:38
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ZZZorcerer posted:While D&D are pretty bad and the execution is terrible, the final plot points of each character are probably what Martin had in mind. And honestly I can't see how he could salvage this train wreak in the books I could absolutely see the broad strokes working in the books. Book Dany is already insane, and D&D has said Arya killing the NK was their idea.
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May 16, 2019 22:39
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Mat Cauthon posted:This invokes one of the criticisms of recent seasons that I think is super valid and on point: the show simply cannot stop switching back and forth between framing character's actions or responses in accordance with modern morality versus (ostensibly) medieval morality. There's no reason for Jon to be that skittish about hooking up with his aunt. Lords marry their cousins and other close relatives all the time, both out of convenience and to keep the family wealth secure. We can probably assume it's common among Westerosi smallfolk as well. He wasn't raised in the Targ tradition like Dany was, but it's well known Targs married siblings for centuries, despite the risk of inbreeding. IIRC, Tyrion and Varys specifically had a conversation about this, although neither of them actually asked Jon about it. Varys just said he wouldn't go for it because in the north they don't do incest. quote:Sam mentions that they seen Drogon in some location but aren't sure. This is my favorite part. I can't stop laughing imagining this as exactly the dialogue: "But what about that dragon that destroyed an entire fleet and city in less than an hour and is now out there completely wild and under no one's control?" "We seen him in some location but aren't sure. *shrug*" Lowly fucked around with this message at 22:56 on May 16, 2019 |
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May 16, 2019 22:52
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They should have made Bronn grand maester and Sam the coin guy
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May 16, 2019 22:54
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Lowly posted:This is my favorite part. I can't stop laughing imagining this as exactly the dialogue: Life, uh, finds a way.
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May 16, 2019 22:56
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If they're going into a reform, they might as well abolish the old council and develop a system of checks and balances with transparency to the public. A way to not repeat the corrupt mistakes of the past.
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May 16, 2019 22:59
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PostNouveau posted:I could absolutely see the broad strokes working in the books. Book Dany is already insane, and D&D has said Arya killing the NK was their idea. Yeah, most of the plot points I see as completely reasonable and it's just the way their done that is all hosed up. Also in the books there are a ton more characters so some of the dumbest poo poo like 'bronn is on the council' could be explained as 'the character that would've been on the council isn't in the show so they just picked somebody'
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May 16, 2019 22:59
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in reality the dragon would ravage the countryside for decades and the dothraki would pillage the southlands before setting up their own kingdom in something akin to the german/viking invasions of england
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May 16, 2019 23:00
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I like to see that after the teen blonde is dead by murder everyone is okay with that and literally just goes home. I mean, it's not like there's anything else to do now to be honest, but still, it's super strange to resolve it like that. I wonder why Drogon doesn't start burning the Starks or Winterfell or whoever for stabbing her mother, but maybe he goes to Essos and raise great kids? 
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May 16, 2019 23:01
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Lmao at "Tyrion calls that idea stupid". I bet this takes place in the throne room
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May 16, 2019 23:14
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YaketySass posted:Grey Worm is technically the last antagonist of the series lol NIght King and Dragons don't have poo poo on Grey Worm -D&D
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May 16, 2019 23:14
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Milo and POTUS posted:Lmao at "Tyrion calls that idea stupid". I bet this takes place in the throne room He does but Sam pulls out a fully-fledged Constitution out of his rear end and everyone agrees it's time to Break The Wheel(tm), Dany would be proud.
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May 16, 2019 23:15
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[/quote] That last sentence redeems the season.
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May 16, 2019 23:21
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ZZZorcerer posted:Edit: lol, "in the books", as is they're coming out. shame on me for posting that Kevin J. Anderson is just waiting by the phone rubbing his greasy little mitts together.
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May 16, 2019 23:21
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I have no idea how an elective monarchy is in any way "breaking the wheel". The Holy Roman Empire or the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth werr as bloody and brutal as any other part of Europe. They all guzzled the same peasant juice.
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May 16, 2019 23:23
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feedmyleg posted:Kevin J. Anderson is just waiting by the phone rubbing his greasy little mitts together. I have no dog in this race but this is too far.
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May 16, 2019 23:23
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