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Dec 4, 2002

sanchez posted:

This is really only true if you end up lumped in C group somehow which is usually the realm of those who did not check in online. They also have family boarding pretty early on in the process, we use them exclusively in the US (because they are awesome for so many reasons) and have never had a problem pre/post kid.

I checked in exactly 24 hours before boarding and my now wife/then girlfriend got lumped into C because we didn’t get the business upgrade. Which, if we did, would’ve put the tickets the same price as United.

I’m not hating on Southwest for their business culture—I like the rapport the flight crews have with customers. I’m just no fan of General Admission seating.

We also don’t have kids, so family boarding wouldn’t help us, of course.

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priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

hobbesmaster posted:

Everyone gave you a meal in the 90s though?

Not Westjet! They pioneered no frills in Canada and it was a future that suuuuuucked

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'

Minto Took posted:

I checked in exactly 24 hours before boarding and my now wife/then girlfriend got lumped into C because we didn’t get the business upgrade. Which, if we did, would’ve put the tickets the same price as United.

I’m not hating on Southwest for their business culture—I like the rapport the flight crews have with customers. I’m just no fan of General Admission seating.

We also don’t have kids, so family boarding wouldn’t help us, of course.

You can get early bird upgrade for $15/ticket that automatically checks you in. Usually a lot cheaper than business and is pretty much a guaranteed A position.

Edit: I should say, you still have to check in, but it assigns your position before check in opens

dupersaurus fucked around with this message at 20:08 on May 16, 2019

Full Collapse
Dec 4, 2002

Yeah, but doesn’t fix my seat anxiety. Anyway, more seats for everyone else.

edit: the Early Bird check-in is what I was thinking of. We skipped on that because adding it would've made the tickets cost the same as flying United or Delta, for example.

Full Collapse fucked around with this message at 21:58 on May 16, 2019

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Online check-in is bullshit.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

ERM... Actually I have stellar scores on the surveys, and every year students tell me that my classes are the best ones they’ve ever taken.
I've still got some Canada 3000 headphones from a trip I took as a kid

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Platystemon posted:

Online check-in is bullshit.

It really is. You still have to print your bag tags at the airport, and if you have no baggage they'll still page you to do a doc-check. It saves zero time.

Groda
Mar 17, 2005

Hair Elf
Southwest finally stopped geoblocking everybody trying to use their website from outside the US.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

PT6A posted:

It really is. You still have to print your bag tags at the airport, and if you have no baggage they'll still page you to do a doc-check. It saves zero time.

Only for international, and if they page you you're not sitting in line I guess?

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


A) who the hell checks a bag? You bring that misery on yourself
B) they check your docs as you're boarding the plane, it's no holdup.
C) obviously you've never had your rear end saved by online check in because the trains are all on strike so you check in over 3g on the one train going to Paris, arriving several hours late only to be told "sorry, you're too late, we can't check you in, oh you checked in online? Ok go ahead, and don't worry, the airplane hasn't arrived yet because ATC is on strike! Bon voyage!"

Checking in at the terminal is for chumps.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Speaking of Paris and checked bags, I was in Paris recently. Arrived very early to the airport because I was checking a bag (shopped wine ofc). I was minding my own business in a quiet part of the terminal, enjoying coffee, pastries and 4G. Time was finally nearing boarding, thought I'd casually check the departure screen to see if it said "go to gate". It loving said "boarding closed". I ran as fast as my sinking heart allowed, thinking about the recently quadrupled ticket prices mid Max 8 crisis, my checked bag with nice wine, plus it was a Friday, plus I needed to be somewhere the next day. Wet stains expanding in crotch and armpits.

Got to the gate I thought it was at, just elbowed past 150 people I assumed were queuing for another gate, made eye contact with desk person, prepared to plead for my life, found out it was my flight and it hadn't started boarding yet. I was now first in line. Merci beaucoup, departure screen.

Platonicsolid
Nov 17, 2008

Finger Prince posted:

A) who the hell checks a bag? You bring that misery on yourself.

Have you tried traveling with kids? You're not getting everything you need for a family in a carry-on.

Anyway, Southwest gives you two free checked bags - drives me nuts people still insist on bringing their complete fine China set in carry-on.

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


Platonicsolid posted:

Have you tried traveling with kids? You're not getting everything you need for a family in a carry-on.

Anyway, Southwest gives you two free checked bags - drives me nuts people still insist on bringing their complete fine China set in carry-on.

Who the hell travels with kids? You bring that misery on yourself 😜

vessbot
Jun 17, 2005
I don't like you because you're dangerous
Also planes tend to run out of bin space if they're full. I check my roller most of the time, so I can put my smaller bag up instead of under the seat and immobilizing my feet.

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

zoom-zoom
Toilet Rascal

Sagebrush posted:

I've still got some Canada 3000 headphones from a trip I took as a kid

That's the coolest name. I love it.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

hobbesmaster posted:

Only for international, and if they page you you're not sitting in line I guess?

No, they've always paged me for doc check prior to the boarding call, doesn't matter the airline. Maybe it's another Canadian eccentricity. They check again during boarding, of course, so I don't know what they accomplish by paging me for a doc check.

EDIT: And I mostly travel without baggage, but I haven't mastered the art of packing for a business trip (jackets, dress shoes, etc.) in just carryon even though I've done weeks at a time for vacation with just a small backpack. As far as I can tell, the only way to do that for more than a day or two is wear a jacket or suit on the plane, with dress shoes, and frankly: gently caress that poo poo, I'd rather wait for my checked luggage.

PT6A fucked around with this message at 23:51 on May 16, 2019

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe
F16 with live ordnance went down into a building near Riverside.

https://twitter.com/MariettaDaviz/status/1129173786073415680

Plastic_Gargoyle
Aug 3, 2007

fknlo posted:

F16 with live ordnance went down into a building near Riverside.

https://twitter.com/MariettaDaviz/status/1129173786073415680

I was going to post this, but then I found this:

https://flightaware.com/photos/view/259672-1213619924-2e2dcfdbf70e5ecc99ee7441fd6033b2239bb2a1/airport/KEZM/sort/votes/page/1

The Tron Guy has a Zodiac.

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant
I was at March earlier this year photographing a WB-57 landing. Talked to a guy there who was suspicious of all the warehouses going up around the site - said he thought it was stupid that they got approved to be built, and wondered what would happen when a plane crashed into them.

Motherfucker was psychic, apparently.

FBS
Apr 27, 2015

The real fun of living wisely is that you get to be smug about it.

The photos from that F-16 crash are pretty nuts:

https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1129174782715584513

https://twitter.com/NewsBreaking/status/1129173046126768128

Craptacular
Jul 11, 2004

fknlo posted:

F16 with live ordnance went down into a building near Riverside.

https://twitter.com/MariettaDaviz/status/1129173786073415680

Supposedly this is inside the building where it crashed. You can even see the tail.

Jealous Cow
Apr 4, 2002

by Fluffdaddy

FBS posted:

The photos from that F-16 crash are pretty nuts:

https://twitter.com/NewsBreaking/status/1129173046126768128

That looks like a movie set.

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
Any word about the pilot?

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe
Cool photo opportunity and all, but that's a really bad place to be.

FBS
Apr 27, 2015

The real fun of living wisely is that you get to be smug about it.

holocaust bloopers posted:

Any word about the pilot?

Ejected cleanly is what I heard.

MisterOblivious
Mar 17, 2010

by sebmojo

Had. He bought it custom painted, with a custom reg number (N55ZC. K5ZC is his ham radio callsign), and had it listed on ebay 12 months later. Paid 134k, not sure what it sold for as the ebay listing is gone.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
Thank our godless state laws for mandatory fire sprinklers.

PainterofCrap
Oct 17, 2002

hey bebe



sanchez posted:

This is really only true if you end up lumped in C group somehow which is usually the realm of those who did not check in online. They also have family boarding pretty early on in the process, we use them exclusively in the US (because they are awesome for so many reasons) and have never had a problem pre/post kid.

I have learned to spring for the line upgrade as soon as I get to the gate. Always wind up in an exit row with my wife, nice.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Finger Prince posted:

C) obviously you've never had your rear end saved by online check in because the trains are all on strike so you check in over 3g on the one train going to Paris, arriving several hours late only to be told "sorry, you're too late, we can't check you in, oh you checked in online? Ok go ahead, and don't worry, the airplane hasn't arrived yet because ATC is on strike! Bon voyage!"

Checking in at the terminal is for chumps.

I’m not saying “don’t check in online because it won’t do anything for you”.

It will, but it shouldn’t. What does clicking a button in a web browser prove? It’s just a hoop the traveller has to jump through to not get a boot on the face.

There is no good reason they should have denied you the ability to get on your delayed flight based on an arbitrary action you didn’t take in the past. It’s not like online check in gives you a golf cart you can use to race to the terminal.

Platystemon fucked around with this message at 09:47 on May 17, 2019

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Platystemon posted:

I’m not saying “don’t check in online because it won’t do anything for you”.

It will, but it shouldn’t. What does clicking a button in a web browser prove? It’s just a hoop the traveller has to jump through to not get a boot the face.

There is no good reason they should have denied you the ability to get on your delayed flight based on an arbitrary action you didn’t take in the past. It’s not like online check in gives you a golf cart you can use to race to the terminal.

You talk as if these systems are built with common sense in mind. They probably were many decades ago, but then rules and other procedures were built on top of that again so it became a Byzantine ziggurat of interlocking bureaucratic links going "I'll get in trouble with I approve X without Y being correct". And weirdly, checking in online probably undermines the original purpose of guaranteeing the number of passengers ready to fly so you don't waste time calling for travelers that aren't in the airport.

vessbot
Jun 17, 2005
I don't like you because you're dangerous
I thought checking in jumped the shark when whatever premium level at Southwest (I think) gave the passenger automatic checkin, which is to say, no checkin

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBMVm3Pu_4w

Ola
Jul 19, 2004


Pretty drat crazy. I guess if enough planes crash, sooner or later some very unlikely scenarios are bound to unfold. Out of fuel perhaps, or very low? It would be hard to resist wanting to check if there were people alive in it, but as many people as possible should be aware you should stay away from crashed fighters because of the hydrazine. I guess not all fighters have it, but the F-16 does for the emergency power unit.

AzureSkys
Apr 27, 2003

Brief dash cam has been uploaded:
https://twitter.com/cbs11doug/status/1129202859642380298

I went to the museum at March AFB in 2017. A relative has some things on display there for the P-38 exhibit that he worked on. Sadly I lost most of my photos from it due to a failed data back up.

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


Ola posted:

You talk as if these systems are built with common sense in mind. They probably were many decades ago, but then rules and other procedures were built on top of that again so it became a Byzantine ziggurat of interlocking bureaucratic links going "I'll get in trouble with I approve X without Y being correct". And weirdly, checking in online probably undermines the original purpose of guaranteeing the number of passengers ready to fly so you don't waste time calling for travelers that aren't in the airport.

It isn't even getting in trouble. It's system x (built in Cobal and running in an emulator on a virtual machine) is incapable of talking to system y, z, and omega, and requires protein interface to take a reservation and turn it into a place on the manifest.
No-show factor is also a big thing (and something you're always thinking about when you fly standby), and buying a ticket is in no way an indication of intention to fly for like 10-20% of passengers. The act of checking in is like a coarse filter. That being said, with the new passenger bill of rights currently in Parliament, overselling should be a thing of the past, so ticket sold = passenger flying, even if they don't show up.

JBark
Jun 27, 2000
Good passwords are a good idea.

Platystemon posted:

Online check-in is bullshit.

With Qantas here in Oz, it's awesome for domestic flights.

- Check-in with app online.
- Get to airport, drop bag on automated belt, scan QR code from app.
- Bag gets weighed, it reads my Qantas RFID tag on my luggage, so no bag tag printed.
- When boarding, scan QR code again from app.

The last time I flew, it took me like 3 minutes to check my bag, go through security, and get to the lounge. I've also never shown a single piece of ID to fly domestic in the 10+ years I've lived here.

VodeAndreas
Apr 30, 2009

JBark posted:

With Qantas here in Oz, it's awesome for domestic flights.

- Check-in with app online.
- Get to airport, drop bag on automated belt, scan QR code from app.
- Bag gets weighed, it reads my Qantas RFID tag on my luggage, so no bag tag printed.
- When boarding, scan QR code again from app.

The last time I flew, it took me like 3 minutes to check my bag, go through security, and get to the lounge. I've also never shown a single piece of ID to fly domestic in the 10+ years I've lived here.

The last time I flew Qantas the flight was delayed and when the gate finally got called up their app considered the flight already in progress and refused to let me show the boarding code? Had to go find the nearest desk quick and get a physical boarding pass to get on.

That was a while ago though, hopefully they've fixed that issue. :(

Mortabis
Jul 8, 2010

I am stupid

Finger Prince posted:

It isn't even getting in trouble. It's system x (built in Cobal and running in an emulator on a virtual machine) is incapable of talking to system y, z, and omega, and requires protein interface to take a reservation and turn it into a place on the manifest.
No-show factor is also a big thing (and something you're always thinking about when you fly standby), and buying a ticket is in no way an indication of intention to fly for like 10-20% of passengers. The act of checking in is like a coarse filter. That being said, with the new passenger bill of rights currently in Parliament, overselling should be a thing of the past, so ticket sold = passenger flying, even if they don't show up.

Getting rid of overselling would increase price so I'm not a huge fan of that idea. But it'll be interesting to see how many seats end up vacant; I'd expect there would be fewer no-shows if the price is higher.

Mortabis fucked around with this message at 13:54 on May 17, 2019

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

Mortabis posted:

Getting rid of overselling would increase price so I'm not a huge fan of that idea. But it'll be interesting to see how many seats end up vacant; I'd expect there would be fewer no-shows if the price is higher.

I'm thinking that'd work, but only up to a point where you hit the group of people who are missing flights for non-rational reasons.

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Mortabis
Jul 8, 2010

I am stupid

Nebakenezzer posted:

I'm thinking that'd work, but only up to a point where you hit the group of people who are missing flights for non-rational reasons.

Well of course if you get sick or get in a bad car accident right before your flight you're not going to still fly no matter how much it was I'd think.

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