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Now on the Battle Dome episode. It's nice to see someone actually taking note of Ash's past accomplishments for once; normally they're never mentioned beyond Max making occasional snide comments about Ash never doing better than top 8 in League tournaments. Weird that the events of the second movie don't get mentioned, though; it feels like the movies are treated as canon in some of the episodes focusing on Legendaries from them but ignored the rest of the time.
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Silver2195 posted:Now on the Battle Dome episode. It's nice to see someone actually taking note of Ash's past accomplishments for once; normally they're never mentioned beyond Max making occasional snide comments about Ash never doing better than top 8 in League tournaments. Weird that the events of the second movie don't get mentioned, though; it feels like the movies are treated as canon in some of the episodes focusing on Legendaries from them but ignored the rest of the time. It's almost as if the writers don't give a gently caress or something.
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May 18, 2019 20:40
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I demand more attention to the plot from my children's shows
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May 18, 2019 23:27
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I mean, kinda? I'm watching Hilda right now, and like, 3 eps in and they're consistent about their characters and mythology. Or, in descending order of relevance, Digimon Tamers, Gravity Falls, Adventure Time and Steven Universe are all kids shows that really pay off in big ways. Granted, I dropped the pokemon cartoon early, but it's lack of interesting characters or development was a big reason as to why.
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May 18, 2019 23:30
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Flopsy posted:It's almost as if the writers don't give a gently caress or something. It’s almost like the writers deliberately leave Ash as nothing more than a representation of the target audience in the most generic way possible and deliberately ignore the fact that he should be a world-renown veteran trainer by this point. Like they keep him around just because they fear the backlash that might come from the few fans that either remember or still care about keeping him around despite the fact that they could have dumped him a decade ago and probably have worked out better than they do now.
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May 18, 2019 23:36
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Hustlin Floh posted:I demand more attention to the plot from my children's shows Same, but unironically.
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May 18, 2019 23:42
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:still not sure about furry Charizard. He needed more scales imo. Please circle the fur you would like removed from Charizard: 
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May 18, 2019 23:45
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i haven’t watched a kids cartoon in a while but ok ko looks like the best of them
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May 18, 2019 23:45
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The movies aren't canon. Also, Ash is ok and he doesn't really make the show worse by existing or whatever.
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May 18, 2019 23:46
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Mallow and Lana spinoff when
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May 18, 2019 23:53
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Geostomp posted:It’s almost like the writers deliberately leave Ash as nothing more than a representation of the target audience in the most generic way possible and deliberately ignore the fact that he should be a world-renown veteran trainer by this point. Like they keep him around just because they fear the backlash that might come from the few fans that either remember or still care about keeping him around despite the fact that they could have dumped him a decade ago and probably have worked out better than they do now. You put that very succinctly yes. Gruckles posted:Same, but unironically. Also yes. loving Star vs. The Forces of Evil is inching toward Game of Thrones levels of compelling for godsakes.
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May 19, 2019 00:10
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I'd bet the writers don't give a poo poo about Ash, they're afraid of moving on from Pikachu
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May 19, 2019 00:15
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indigi posted:I'd bet the writers don't give a poo poo about Ash, they're afraid of moving on from Pikachu Use a different pikachu. Problem solved.
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May 19, 2019 00:15
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Flopsy posted:Use a different pikachu. Problem solved. they could also just use a different Ash. God knows there's an abundance of identical cousins in the pokeverse
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May 19, 2019 00:17
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Ash's Pikachu is killed and replaced by Detective Pikachu on the way to Galar.
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SyntheticPolygon posted:The movies aren't canon. Both the Lugia and Lucario movies are referenced in-series so that's clearly not true.
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I'm surprised no one pointed it out yet Detective Pikachu spoilers Pokemon fusion is coming for Gen 8
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SyntheticPolygon posted:The movies aren't canon. Mewtwo Strikes Back is absolutely canon. They spent several episodes of the anime building up towards the movie. oddium posted:i haven’t watched a kids cartoon in a while but ok ko looks like the best of them OK KO had a super awesome Cartoon Network cartoon crossover and then had a Captain Planet crossover with the original VAs for Kwame and the good Captain himself. It also gave us the canon end to old-school webcomic RPG World after a decade of it being abandoned, so yeah, I'd say OK KO is pretty drat good!
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Vandar posted:Mewtwo Strikes Back is absolutely canon. They spent several episodes of the anime building up towards the movie. The RPG World episode was especially sweet because its creator is one of the major story writers of the series.
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Geostomp posted:The RPG World episode was especially sweet because its creator is one of the major story writers of the series. Major story writer? No no. He's the creator of OK KO, which makes it all the better.
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Dienes posted:Please circle the fur you would like removed from Charizard: I also wasn't wearing my glasses OK
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indigi posted:signing up for this tournament has been the most arcane and frustrating process seriously
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indigi posted:they could also just use a different Ash. God knows there's an abundance of identical cousins in the pokeverse Ash with girl parts is too controversial though. Better make sure we stick to the status quo for another 1000 seasons or we might lose all those wildly passionate standard Ash fans. I mean he's got such a compelling character arc and all. Who knows what tournament he's inevitably going to lose at the last second will be next! Maybe Team rocket will do something wacky while that happens while the side characters try and fail to have character arcs. THRILLING NON STOP ACTION FOLKS. edit: Holy poo poo I am bitter LMAO Flopsy fucked around with this message at 02:22 on May 19, 2019 |
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May 19, 2019 02:17
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Electric Phantasm posted:I'm surprised no one pointed it out yet The Internet is awaiting this canonicity with eager hands and open maws
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May 19, 2019 02:19
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Funky Valentine posted:Ash's Pikachu is killed and replaced by Detective Pikachu on the way to Galar. Ash is killed, and his Pikachu teams up with Detective Pikachu on a Buddy Pikachu adventure to solve the case.
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Gruckles posted:Ash is killed, and his Pikachu teams up with Detective Pikachu on a Buddy Pikachu adventure to solve the case. See, now this has got potential. I like the cut of your jibe kid. Make jigglypuff a femme fatale and I think you got something.
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qnqnx posted:The Internet is awaiting this canonicity with eager hands and open maws Its been canon since Red/Green
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Kids are smart, Pokemon anime is just kinda rear end, no need to qualify it with "but it's supposed to be for children". However, kids also don't give a gently caress and will watch whatever catches their eyes, plus Pokemon games still sell like hotcakes so why bother. Sun and Moon actually looks like it tries new poo poo to an extent tho.
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Zore posted:Its been canon since Red/Green I regularly forget Gen 1 exists.
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They really should've let Ash win and become a champion of some region. It'd mean he gets to come back every now and then. And kids prefer new starters to Pikachu anyway ime with literal 10 year old relatives.
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RatHat posted:seriously hopefully now that I've done it once it'll be easy going forward, but I kinda doubt it
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oddium posted:i haven’t watched a kids cartoon in a while but ok ko looks like the best of them , and its made by a goon!
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Nasgate posted:They really should've let Ash win and become a champion of some region. It'd mean he gets to come back every now and then. And kids prefer new starters to Pikachu anyway ime with literal 10 year old relatives. I mean, if nothing else, he made it all the way to the finals in Kalos, which is the best he's ever done in a proper Regional League tournament. And he put up a drat strong fight against a trainer who had received tons of setup thanks to the Mega Evolution shorts before his appearance in the main series. I'm okay with him losing tournaments, as long as it's a BELIEVABLE loss to a character who'd received some measure of characterization and setup.
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BlazetheInferno posted:I mean, if nothing else, he made it all the way to the finals in Kalos, which is the best he's ever done in a proper Regional League tournament. And he put up a drat strong fight against a trainer who had received tons of setup thanks to the Mega Evolution shorts before his appearance in the main series. I know I've essentially flogged this horse into a fine mush by now but honestly I just want a different main character. At this point I think I'll take just about anything as long as it's not Ash. And it's genuinely sad because I loved him as a kid, but when you keep shilling the same character and reverting any development or change they get every season eventually you just resent them for stifling everything else. I would've loved it if he had a couple arcs won a tournament then went on to become a mentor to younger trainers or something. That would've been fine, but the fact he's always ten and every season is a repeat and all other characters get derailed to fit into his narrative is just a massive bummer. Especially when the games get interesting characters or story telling it gets thrown in the trash. Look at what they did to Lusamine in the anime. Christ even worse at look at what they did to N. Nobody can be TOO interesting so they have to bland themselves down so they don't outshine Ash. And seeing as he's just a stock shonen personality it means a lot has to get cut to try and keep him relevant. Flopsy fucked around with this message at 05:21 on May 19, 2019 |
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I always disliked Ash and Pikachu because even as a kid I thought Raichu looked way better. The only exception is gen 1 chungus Pikachu.
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May 19, 2019 05:23
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Lusamine is better in the anime tbh.
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Lusamine is better in the anime tbh. Out of curiosity what makes her better for you?
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I really appreciate that Pikachu is a cute little rodent who slays everything in his path, and also that Ash likes that he's cute! I did prefer fat Pikachu tho
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Flopsy posted:Out of curiosity what makes her better for you? Not hard to do better than plain cardboard with a really boring aesthetic.
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