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I’ve listened to the companion podcast and enjoyed it but I gotta say I wish they went into even more detail. And obviously this is contingent on the actors free time but it would have been awesome to have some round table stuff from them. I’m hoping this gets a cool Blu-ray release.
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Trevor Hale posted:Expanse is also done shooting, I believe ......done shooting season 4.
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Rocksicles posted:......done shooting season 4. Yes. Sorry.
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Silly me to think that this thread would remain free of Tankies.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Silly me to think that this thread would remain free of Tankies. Salty liberal sad that you won't be able to stay in your McMansion for very long you wouldn't know what a tankie was if one bit you in the rear end looking forward you waving tiki torches with the rest of the alt-right when you don't get your way Phi230 fucked around with this message at 02:46 on May 18, 2019 |
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May 18, 2019 02:44
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Oh dear loving christ take it to D&D.
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the ussr should've nuked the us, at least privileged stupid libs would be dead
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Wait...is this the Watch Thread? If so: death to capitalism! bring out the choppy bois! 
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imo we should grant all power to the worker soviets
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May 18, 2019 03:25
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I grew up in a suburb of Kiev and the block next to me housed a bunch of folks that evacuated from that area. I was but a wee lad back then and didn't really know any details about the accident, but apparently areas close to my grandparent's house (about 80's miles to the west of pripyat) were irradiated and off limits. Anyway, what I love about this show is how accurately it captures the look of 80's USSR. The look of the apartments, the clothing, those eyeglasses that women wear, whoever worked on costumes and set design for Chernobyl did a bang up job. It *feels* like the ussr even though everyone speaks english Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Wait...is this the Watch Thread? *in bill skarsgard as It voice* "down here in the watch thread, we're all bourgeois"
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Phi230 posted:the ussr should've nuked the us, at least privileged stupid libs would be dead yeah I hate my dad too
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Phi230 posted:the ussr should've nuked the us, at least privileged stupid libs would be dead Chernobyl has shown us that they would've probably just mucked it up and gulaged the soviets that were ostensibly in charge
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show is real good, op. i hope more ppl are watching
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My Croatian girlfriend pointed out all the old Soviet stuff she recognized from her family life. A phone, a bunch of curtains, a bunch of other stuff. Seems authentic enough.
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My family just stopped eating mushrooms, produce, and a bunch of other poo poo for several years, and I didn't understand why until like the 2000s or so. Welp, that's my first-hand account of people mildly affected by this, thanks for listening. In other news, this show is loving amazing. The one thing that leaves me wanting is the composite character that Emily Watson portrays, but I understand how the whole background there would have been extremely hard to turn into non-tedious viewing for TV. Two friends of mine from high school ended up being nuclear physicists, and one of them is a proper Chernobyl sperglord that outlined how crazy the clandestine communication / analysis between several Soviet power stations and scientific centers was at the time. There's enough material for an entire spinoff there.
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Non-relatedly: Any Russian-speaking hoons in here that can relay and translate the messages broadcast from the loudspeaker-vans that were driving through Pripyat before the evacuation? I'm looking for the broadcast that kept recurring throughout the second half of the show trailer that was so well done and conveyed this really visceral sense of dread.
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Two friends of mine from high school ended up being nuclear physicists, and one of them is a proper Chernobyl sperglord that outlined how crazy the clandestine communication / analysis between several Soviet power stations and scientific centers was at the time. There's enough material for an entire spinoff there. The amount of secrecy and compartmentalizing of information was another contributing root cause for why the disaster occured. A plant near Leningrad had a near miss event but due to Soviet information/damage control other plant operators didn't learn about the incident.
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Non-relatedly: Any Russian-speaking hoons in here that can relay and translate the messages broadcast from the loudspeaker-vans that were driving through Pripyat before the evacuation? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l3g3m8Vrgs Turn on subtitles.
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El Jeffe posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l3g3m8Vrgs Thank you so much!
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vnimaniye vnimaniye
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRL7o2kPqw0
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Someone on Reddit found the mural from the start of ep 2: https://sovietmosaicsinukraine.org/en/mosaic/81 it's in Kiev. Plenty more on the site and FB page although they are slowly being demolished with the old buildings.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBNFvZ6Vr2U
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Ukrainian and Russian are pretty much mutually intelligible, right
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From my understanding yes though there are some false friends between their vocab, much like among the Scandinavian languages.
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Mystery Opponent posted:I grew up in a suburb of Kiev and the block next to me housed a bunch of folks that evacuated from that area. I was but a wee lad back then and didn't really know any details about the accident, but apparently areas close to my grandparent's house (about 80's miles to the west of pripyat) were irradiated and off limits. Anyway, what I love about this show is how accurately it captures the look of 80's USSR. The look of the apartments, the clothing, those eyeglasses that women wear, whoever worked on costumes and set design for Chernobyl did a bang up job. It *feels* like the ussr even though everyone speaks english I noticed from episode 1 that all of the characters are wearing their wedding bands on their right hands so A+ Good Job to the costuming department!  edit: also, there are some great memes in the GBS thread Toxic Fart Syndrome fucked around with this message at 04:30 on May 19, 2019 |
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Only tangentially related, but also on the "horrifying invisible death" wavelength: Anyone got a link to the YouTube video of that kid who mail ordered a big fuckoff Russian vacuum tube, hooked it up to an over-voltaged power source, got it to produce the Cherenkov effect and then *held his hand in front of the beam* to see an X-ray of his hand on a piece of paper? He lived, though I believe his hand was irreversibly damaged.
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thought this research reactor pulsing video was neat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdkKxQotsro
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Christ that's like something out of a David Lynch film.
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Leviathan posted:Ukrainian and Russian are pretty much mutually intelligible, right all the slavic languages are faaaairly closely related, especially ukrainian/russian though once you get to polish it's a fair bit distinct from all the cyrillic languages on account of using a different alphabet entirely. Even ukrainian/russian has a few letters difference. As the other poster brought up, lots of false friends too, ex, глаз and ока for eye. at the start of episode 2 you hear the radio playing a broadcast and the subtitles call it Ukrainian, my Ukrainian friend went "nope, that's Russian" when I asked him as we watched and specifically cited the glaz/oka thing.  a good point of comparison if you want to get an idea of the differences is like trying to read scottish english. something else to note is that under the USSR, mostly only Russian was taught in schools. My friend who grew up in Ukraine knows both languages, but he can really only read/write Russian well since all his Ukrainian was learned at home from his parents or from friends.
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Crusader posted:thought this research reactor pulsing video was neat: Ah running to the nuke plant and back was always fun. It was a a perfect 9 mile route.
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Duzzy Funlop posted:My family just stopped eating mushrooms, produce, and a bunch of other poo poo for several years, and I didn't understand why until like the 2000s or so. I was three months old and in an orphanage in Denmark at pretty much the time period covered by this thing. It's a Danish tradition to sleep with windows open. I'm gonna die of loving cancer aren't I?
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RagnarokZ posted:I was three months old and in an orphanage in Denmark at pretty much the time period covered by this thing. Probably, but due to all of the other carcinogens your body has accumulated in your lifetime.
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RagnarokZ posted:I was three months old and in an orphanage in Denmark at pretty much the time period covered by this thing. Prostate cancer, if you're male and nothing else gets you first.
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Yeah, evidently it's pretty common even in men who never presented with prostate cancer to have 'microtumors' in them, or so it's been found when they do really in-depth cadaver autopsies/dissections in med school.
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The whole 2-4 megaton thing: Water dissociates almost completely at around 3000C. I guess it's not a steam explosion they're worried about, but rather that the temperature of the corium is sufficiently high to generate a hydrogen explosion? I'd guess the chemical energy of 7ktons of water dissociated to hydrogen and oxygen is probably higher than an equivalent quantity of TNT but I've no idea if it's in the 2-4 megaton range.
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:I noticed from episode 1 that all of the characters are wearing their wedding bands on their right hands so A+ Good Job to the costuming department! Authentic Slav set dressing. I loved all the old school PCs
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StarkingBarfish posted:I'd guess the chemical energy of 7ktons of water dissociated to hydrogen and oxygen is probably higher than an equivalent quantity of TNT but I've no idea if it's in the 2-4 megaton range. 1 mole of water is 18.02 grams. 1 mole of H2 is 2.01588 grams 7 kilotonnes of water = 7,000,000 kilos of water. 7,000,000 / 0.01802 = 388,457,269 moles of water. 388,457,269 moles of H2O = 388,457,269 moles of H2. Oxyhydrogen reaction releases 241.8 kJ for every mole of H2 burned. 388,457,269 * 241.8 = 93,928,967,644 kJ = 93.9 Terajoules 1 gram of TNT exploded = 4184 joules 93.9 Terajoules / 4184 joules = 22,449,562,056 grams of TNT = 22.45 kilotonnes of TNT equivalent. Granted, it's been over 15 years since I did any sort of chemistry in school - I'd certainly welcome any corrections from anyone who knows better than I - but unless I've made any egregious errors it doesn't seem possible to get even near to the megaton range from a pure hydrogen-oxygen reaction of this scale (and this is assuming that it's a 100% efficient reaction, with none of the elements blown away before reacting). However, it does appear possible to get a Hiroshima-scale reaction (15 kilotonnes) - this is still very bad. Perhaps there are other factors not considered in this calculation that can increase the yield? Or, perhaps, the scientists are overestimating the size of the explosion to get a more urgent response from the higher echelons? hazza fucked around with this message at 15:50 on May 19, 2019 |
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You are entirely correct on the maximum force releasable from the hydrox reaction. That makes me more convinced that the 2-4 MT number is meant to mean, the effects of a ~22kT explosion scattering the 8-10? tons of fuel present in all the cores and at the plant. ie, 22 kiloton boom, now 10 tons of undepleted fuel doped with plutonium has been injected into the atmosphere and will fall out over Europe. That honestly seems like way WAY worse a contamination than what an efficient air burst of a 2 to 4 megaton device would do...
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:You are entirely correct on the maximum force releasable from the hydrox reaction. That makes me more convinced that the 2-4 MT number is meant to mean, the effects of a ~22kT explosion scattering the 8-10? tons of fuel present in all the cores and at the plant. Yea I think they were much more worried about the dirty bomb effects than the water vaporization bomb
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