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nankeen posted:i feel more comfortable hanging out with literal bulls than adult men yeah, same with the horses. that's why it's funny when men are afraid of horses. "oh no, a huge animal that is strong enough to easily kill me! and they're easily riled up!!" lmao whatever. i'm forced to interact with hundreds of these every day.
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DreamingofRoses posted:https://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2018/feb/19/jackie-speier/fact-checking-sad-statistic-number-women-murdered-/ men should be culled
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DemoneeHo posted:AITA for sending a nude to an ex-boyfriend who I ran into at REI and he made a lovely remark about me losing weight? Husband is pissed. Some peoples thought processes, dude. “Haha, won’t my husband find it just hilarious I’m texting my boobs to an ex!” 
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Motherfucker posted:I can't be negged! To show how not negged I am I will attempt to seek approval by sending the man making negative remarks about me with nudes. Surely this couldn't be interpreted poorly! Hahaha, exactly! What an idiot "I won't be negged! I'll just respond exactly like he expected, that'll show him!" Miserable Maid fucked around with this message at 16:35 on May 19, 2019 |
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Pick posted:yeah, same with the horses. that's why it's funny when men are afraid of horses. "oh no, a huge animal that is strong enough to easily kill me! and they're easily riled up!!" lmao whatever. i'm forced to interact with hundreds of these every day. Horses are bad and evil, they have no souls only hate inside
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AITA for not wanting to attend boyfriends family party?quote:need some genuine responses because I've been told I ATA and its getting me down
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hot take but not all dudes suck rear end and as cute as it is to say 'kill all men' now 20 years down the line there's gonna be a significant (or at least, large) sect of grown rear end heterosexual women forming the bizzaro world version of incels unable to reconcile the dissonance of blaming all men for their problems while simultaneously wondering why they were universally passed over.
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Motherfucker posted:hot take but not all dudes suck rear end and as cute as it is to say 'kill all men' now 20 years down the line there's gonna be a significant (or at least, large) sect of grown rear end heterosexual women forming the bizzaro world version of incels unable to reconcile the dissonance of blaming all men for their problems while simultaneously wondering why they were universally passed over. I’m going to quote this post so you can’t edit it out later, because hoo boy was it bad
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Ugh.... I feel so sorry for that lady. She's clearly had a major blow to self esteem from her bf and his family. I hope she does the right thing and tell him to gently caress off and hangs out with her cousin, and hopefully leaves her boyfriend in the processMotherfucker posted:hot take but not all dudes suck rear end and as cute as it is to say 'kill all men' now 20 years down the line there's gonna be a significant sect of grown rear end heterosexual women forming the bizzaro world version of incels unable to reconcile the dissonance of blaming all men for their problems while simultaneously wondering why they were universally passed over. Yeah, you can't fight sexism with different sexism. It's a game where everyone loses.
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carry on then posted:I’m going to quote this post so you can’t edit it out later, because hoo boy was it bad we'll both be postin' here in 20 years so its a bet.
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carry on then posted:I’m going to quote this post so you can’t edit it out later, because hoo boy was it bad S/he's not wrong though? The internet creates monsters with it's echo chambers, and things starting as "irony" or Jokes can quickly mutate into horrible things that completely leave the original intent behind, especially if they go all Poes Law Edit: autocorrect
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Pick posted:yeah, same with the horses. that's why it's funny when men are afraid of horses. "oh no, a huge animal that is strong enough to easily kill me! and they're easily riled up!!" lmao whatever. i'm forced to interact with hundreds of these every day. Wait, hundreds of horses? Must work at the glue plant or something...
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It's worth going through this and perhaps less reading her total analysis, but checking out the links she provides to primary research.
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Motherfucker posted:hot take but not all dudes suck rear end and as cute as it is to say 'kill all men' now 20 years down the line there's gonna be a significant (or at least, large) sect of grown rear end heterosexual women forming the bizzaro world version of incels unable to reconcile the dissonance of blaming all men for their problems while simultaneously wondering why they were universally passed over. Fun fact, the incel community was created by a queer woman who noped the gently caress out when the current batch of toxic shitheads began loving up the space.
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Pick posted:It's worth going through this and perhaps less reading her total analysis, but checking out the links she provides to primary research. This is pretty interesting. It makes a lot of sense too, you can kind of see it in effect with traveling (especially going abroad for school), where women tend to leave on their own and make new friends there, where men tend to go if their existing close friend group is going too.
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Women go alone so they can get railed by filthy Euro trash but not be slut shamed for it.
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Miserable Maid posted:Horses are bad and evil, they have no souls only hate inside Same except men
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Miserable Maid posted:
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Why would I be afraid of an animal that can die from imaginary ants?
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Motherfucker posted:hot take but not all dudes suck rear end and as cute as it is to say 'kill all men' now 20 years down the line there's gonna be a significant (or at least, large) sect of grown rear end heterosexual women forming the bizzaro world version of incels unable to reconcile the dissonance of blaming all men for their problems while simultaneously wondering why they were universally passed over. Haven't people been saying this for decades though? It kind of starts to sound like Incel sour grapes.  "Women keep saying they don't need no man but give em 20 years and watch them devolve into bitter spinster with no life".As Pick implied, it sounds like this is more likely to happen to men.
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^this, and unfortunately the anecdotes in this thread don’t quite measure up to the studies being done on the issue, even in masculinity studies. Men crave intimacy; don’t know where to get it from. Panfilo posted:Haven't people been saying this for decades though? It kind of starts to sound like Incel sour grapes. Incels and a lot of men don’t understand the concept of “would rather be single” precisely because of that asymmetry in emotional labor that was mentioned by someone else above. A lot of men are so sure that women believe (or will eventually) their lives are bettered by being in relationships with men and the math doesn’t math on that, given all the studies saying that even women who work the same amount as their partners STILL don’t do an equivalent amount of household management labor.
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Motherfucker posted:hot take but not all dudes suck rear end and as cute as it is to say 'kill all men' now 20 years down the line there's gonna be a significant (or at least, large) sect of grown rear end heterosexual women forming the bizzaro world version of incels unable to reconcile the dissonance of blaming all men for their problems while simultaneously wondering why they were universally passed over. Incel men could of course do the same kind of thing instead of raging online and occasionally getting murderous. Let's hope that's the future instead (ahahaha)
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MasBrillante posted:You know, none of these men’s movements focus on being better friends to each other which is just very telling. It's actually very sad, because you read old documents about male friendships and they used to be more similar to female friendships. I don't entirely know what happened. This seems to be fairly recent, Silent Generation men seemed to still have these very tight bonds.
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MasBrillante posted:Incels and a lot of men don’t understand the concept of “would rather be single” precisely because of that asymmetry in emotional labor that was mentioned by someone else above. A lot of men are so sure that women believe (or will eventually) their lives are bettered by being in relationships with men and the math doesn’t math on that, given all the studies saying that even women who work the same amount as their partners STILL don’t do an equivalent amount of household management labor. Which makes me wonder if the MTGOW movement is just some cargo cult aping the behavior of women that are genuinely happy being single. If a man decides he doesn't want to define himself by being in a heterosexual relationship that's fine, but the MGTOW people seem to kind of miss the ultimate point about it.
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Pick posted:It's actually very sad, because you read old documents about male friendships and they used to be more similar to female friendships. I don't entirely know what happened. 20-70 years of “lol gay bro!” in different forms from other men anytime men attempt to talk about feelings or anything meaningful on a deeper level, among other things
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AITA possibly over-reacting at my wife's "mistake" by leaving the house for a weekquote:I know relationship posts aren't allowed here so I want to keep this focused to the incident at hand. So please don't give any relationship advice.
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Toxic masculinity also likes to form arbitrary hierarchies and competition. An insecure man is going to have a hard time forming meaningful friendships to other men who he might seem superior to him. Instead of just being happy for other people, he's more likely to take his friends success (particularly with women) as some attack on him. I'm betting Incels don't have much of a social circle specifically because they alienate everyone around them while complaining they are the victim the whole time.
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DemoneeHo posted:AITA possibly over-reacting at my wife's "mistake" by leaving the house for a week she's 100% in the wrong
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Pick posted:It's actually very sad, because you read old documents about male friendships and they used to be more similar to female friendships. I don't entirely know what happened. This seems to be fairly recent, Silent Generation men seemed to still have these very tight bonds. I agree about how sad it is. There are definitely still plenty of men in other cultures demonstrating tight friendship bonds (see Indian movies) but here, I notice that even the most progressive representations of male friendships have to like acknowledge the homoeroticism trope.
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Panfilo posted:Toxic masculinity also likes to form arbitrary hierarchies and competition. An insecure man is going to have a hard time forming meaningful friendships to other men who he might seem superior to him. Instead of just being happy for other people, he's more likely to take his friends success (particularly with women) as some attack on him. I'm betting Incels don't have much of a social circle specifically because they alienate everyone around them while complaining they are the victim the whole time. There is also the fact that incels use the internet in place of real relationships with other men. That in itself is pretty damaging.
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Panfilo posted:Toxic masculinity also likes to form arbitrary hierarchies and competition. An insecure man is going to have a hard time forming meaningful friendships to other men who he might seem superior to him. Instead of just being happy for other people, he's more likely to take his friends success (particularly with women) as some attack on him. I'm betting Incels don't have much of a social circle specifically because they alienate everyone around them while complaining they are the victim the whole time. I mean you can watch that happen in real time on their forums, which supposedly formed because they’re all screwed in the same way. any tiny shred of happiness or acceptance is immediately and viciously attacked by the other posters with things like “wrong, you’ll never be happy stop fooling yourself” “LDAR u subhuman” etc, to say nothing of the reactions if one of them actually gets laid or starts a relationship
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