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Mimesweeper posted:I think there was a Tumblr Q&A or a post somewhere that said Solomon only has sons through martial arts breathing bullshit because he can't bear the thought of replacing his daughters who died back in his origin story.
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That's the best use of "Orly"? I've seen in a long time.
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Did a reread recently and noticed that I understand a whole lot more of all those exposition pictures where white chain and Cio explain things. At my first read it was hard to figure out just how literal to take some of them. It also highlighted for me that we still know very little about the asian themed demiurge. She's very present in those pictures but doesn't do a whole lot in them afaik.
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Mindblast posted:
she doesn’t do a whole lot period. that’s Jadis, the prophesying paperweight
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May 21, 2019 12:51
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We'll get a flashback of when she was still the most powerful of the demiurges. She was below only invincible-Jagg before she decided to take a peek behind the curtain and realized she was a tertiary character in a graphic novel, so I'd bet she was close to or stronger than immediate-post-war-Jagganoth. And we know that the rankings aren't the be all and end all of strength, Jagganoth currently would have a hard time getting rid of Gog-Agog, and if Gog-Agog were able to focus she'd be the strongest of the seven according to word of Operant. Interestingly, Jadis's still not the weakest demiurge, standing above Mammon. Though maybe that's changed if Mammon's gotten mad enough to burn away his senility. Also interestingly, even in his decrepit state Incubus is ranked as the middle of the strength rating. If everyone thinks Auntie Maya should have had that spot she might have been a Solomon David level demiurge... and Meti would have probably ranked even higher. habeasdorkus fucked around with this message at 13:26 on May 21, 2019 |
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May 21, 2019 13:16
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Mammon was the lowest at the time of that ranking because of the senility and general helplessness, he's probably climbed a bit up the ranks thank to Allison and Mottom.
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May 21, 2019 13:26
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YaketySass posted:Mammon was the lowest at the time of that ranking because of the senility and general helplessness, he's probably climbed a bit up the ranks thank to Allison and Mottom. granted this is before the senility reveal, but operant said his lower rank was more due to his inexperience with magic or fist arts compared to his contemporaries. he lacks any skills or powers beyond being a fire-breathing lizard the size of a modest temple with nigh-impenetrable skin, which still counts for quite a bit
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May 21, 2019 14:59
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habeasdorkus posted:and Meti would have probably ranked even higher. Didnt Abbadon say that Meti was stronger than any Demiurge except Zoss?
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May 21, 2019 15:33
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Power rankings are a wank, but Meti, while alive, likely could have killed any of them. ElMaligno posted:I am glad you are still wrong about everything.
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May 21, 2019 16:01
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Dead Reckoning posted:Power rankings are a wank, but Meti, while alive, likely could have killed any of them. She couldn't, because she didn't want to. Same reason Maya couldn't kill Incubus. If Meti did want to kill the other Demiurges, she might've been able to, but then she wouldn't be Meti.
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May 21, 2019 16:09
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I'm pretty sure Meti could kill whoever she pleased, and according to the story, did in fact kill a whole lot of people before the emptiness of slaughter set in and she re-dedicated herself to being "wine-drunk philosophy trash grandma." She isn't revered by idiots as the greatest sword-saint who ever lived because she wrote a book.
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May 21, 2019 16:21
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nimby posted:She couldn't, because she didn't want to. Same reason Maya couldn't kill Incubus. I don't want to be at work today, but I still did it. What you can do, what you want to do and what you do do don't always align.
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Who What Now posted:I don't want to be at work today, but I still did it. What you can do, what you want to do and what you do do don't always align. This is somewhat complicated when you are talking about Cutting, which is the act of division by the blade of Want. I am sure that Meti could attack and kill plenty of people whether or not she really wanted to, but I assume that her ability to murder potentially everyone came through her mastery of Cutting, and I am not sure you can Cut anything unless you Want to.
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May 21, 2019 16:58
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Who What Now posted:What you can do, what you want to do and what you do do don't always align. If you're not Royalty, then sure.
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Dead Reckoning posted:And yet, I notice you haven't disagreed with anything I said in my first post. i just automatically and spitefully disagree and ignore anything and everything you say. and if i agree with it i just keep it to myself because you already have a dangerously over-inflated ego.
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YaketySass posted:If you're not Royalty, then sure. Not being Royalty is the most Royal thing of all
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My eyes kind of glaze over when the "relative power level" talk begins here because I get the feeling the whole eventual point of the comic is that that crap doesn't really matter. (That and I feel the ever-increasing power levels are what ruined DBZ.)ElMaligno posted:I am glad you are still wrong about everything. I'm glad there are still things we can depend on!
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I feel like pretty much everyone's "power level" are measured by different scales, because they all pull their abilities from fundamentally different sources, keys notwithstanding That is to say, ranking characters by their power is an inevitably fruitless endeavour
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I mean, Allison killed a god* by throwing a spear. It's not that hard if you do it right. *Mottom's not dead yet, but she's now guaranteed to be at some point, and that's good enough. Edit: Okay, to be more precise, Allison killed a god by blowing up a single tree. SardonicTyrant fucked around with this message at 21:44 on May 21, 2019 |
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May 21, 2019 21:37
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SardonicTyrant posted:Edit: Okay, to be more precise, Allison killed a god by blowing up a single tree. Thats a summary worthy of a curveball parable.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:My eyes kind of glaze over when the "relative power level" talk begins here because I get the feeling the whole eventual point of the comic is that that crap doesn't really matter. (That and I feel the ever-increasing power levels are what ruined DBZ.) yeah it's real dumb like what's ur power level irl
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My power level is 62.9387 on the Klumph scale with a resonating frequency of 4782 Peka-hertz. These are very important numbers to remember, I assure you.
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May 21, 2019 22:37
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I rate at .00015 Krillinewtons, on the DBS scale.
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I do not need powerlevels, because I am the most base of fools. Yet with but a single wank, I can end civilization as it is known.
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:yeah it's real dumb Eleventy billion Gokus, give or take a Krillin. SardonicTyrant posted:I do not need powerlevels, because I am the most base of fools. Yet with but a single wank, I can end civilization as it is known. 
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May 21, 2019 22:58
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I used to regularly lift things onto high shelves as part of my work but I don't anymore
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May 21, 2019 23:00
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Less than one-tenth of a milligoku. My scouter isn't sensitive enough to register me.
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The power of the individual demiurges is for the most part weirdly intermingled with their self-conception and undermined by the personal attributes that make them stagnant per their roles in the overarching plot. The "Demiurge X would be Y powerful but for/due to Z" framing ignores that what and who the demiurges are, their mental states and what they do and don't do, is necessarily both the source of their power and their defining limitation, e.g. Gog-Agog would not be demiurge if they were capable of central focus.
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I meant more like, there's always a possibility, however slight, my child grows up into Mega Ultra Hitler 2000, who is also Dio Brando. There's no such thing as invincibility in this setting, because there's always a slight chance something will destroy you.
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SardonicTyrant posted:There's no such thing as invincibility in this setting, because there's always a slight chance something will destroy you. Yep. Strength is only useful as an obstacle to be overcome in an interesting way to the narrative. If the only thing that matters is who is "stronger" we just get the grunt-fest staring contests of latter DBZ chapters. It's only interesting that Gog-Agog is stronger than the others because her mental state makes it irrelevant. Even Jaggonoth, who is supposedly getting way too powerful, needs an alliance with Incubus to challenge the others. The keys are bullshit too. They might unlock power, or amplify it, but clearly they're not the only way to it. Meti (probably) never had a key. Maya doesn't, currently. Solomon grew powerful without one, and Zoss is still so powerful even without one that death literally doesn't matter to him. Their motivations and will are way more interesting than their power or whatever keys they have/had. Rotten Red Rod fucked around with this message at 23:40 on May 21, 2019 |
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May 21, 2019 23:36
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great entrance and an even better exit https://twitter.com/Orbitaldropkick/status/1130965930580881410
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SHE'S SO COOL.
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loving hell. Fake edit: Notice how her key went pop and she immediately disintegrated? That must be Gog Agog's self in some way.
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I thought I remembered a page or something referencing some ranking and brief summary of the demiurges being discussed. I tried looking for it but didn't have any luck. Does anyone have a link or am I just misremembering?
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Demiurge4 posted:loving hell. Well, probably less that the key is "her" and more that the key is only there if "she" is there (although clearly she can hide it when she wants). Twenty Four posted:I thought I remembered a page or something referencing some ranking and brief summary of the demiurges being discussed. I tried looking for it but didn't have any luck. Does anyone have a link or am I just misremembering? Maybe someone's compiled it, but for most of this information (like about Gog-Agog being the strongest) we're going off rather scattered comments from Abaddon, spread over blog posts in comic updates, answers to questions on his other blog, and posts he's made here. Rotten Red Rod fucked around with this message at 00:00 on May 22, 2019 |
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May 21, 2019 23:58
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Part entertainer. Part god. All worm.
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She's got the rhythm.
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habeasdorkus posted:SHE'S SO COOL.
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Twenty Four posted:I thought I remembered a page or something referencing some ranking and brief summary of the demiurges being discussed. I tried looking for it but didn't have any luck. Does anyone have a link or am I just misremembering? Something like Juggs > Pre-Carbonate Jadis > Salami Dave > Gog > Incubus > Mottom > Carbonite Jadis > Senile Grandpa Dog The comment specifically said Mammon was at the bottom due to his current condition (pre-Wielder of Names), so Angry Grandpa Dog might have moved up a rank. e: https://killsixbilliondemons.tumblr.com/post/145516236255/all-all-the-demiurges-our-great-red-god-excluded Archenteron fucked around with this message at 00:18 on May 22, 2019 |
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My first impression was that Allison had chopped Gog's head in half mid-conversation.
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