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trilljester posted:From what I found out, if you don't indent properly, the poo poo doesn't work. it is yaml, yes. have you not encountered yaml before? it's prety common in modern linux, particularly if you ever touch docker or k8s or ansible or w/e. if you don't want to use an editor that knows how to indent yaml, you can just write json instead, as all json is valid yaml.
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May 21, 2019 00:39
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i'll never forgive docker and k8s for injecting us with more yaml
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May 21, 2019 00:43
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Beamed posted:i'll never forgive docker and k8s for injecting us with more yaml 
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May 21, 2019 01:10
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yaml is good.
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May 21, 2019 01:29
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James Baud posted:You must mean eth0..? enp69s420 is better because it's not dependent on the order adapters get detected
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crazy thought: use RHEL/CentOS.
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May 21, 2019 03:50
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ratbert90 posted:use RHEL/CentOS.
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May 21, 2019 03:59
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Progressive JPEG posted:as someone who had used awesomewm for a while I'd recommend just going with i3 i work at a company that primarily works in lua and im still surprised when i see people using awesome still the lead dev is sane and uses i3
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I’m not a fan of netplan, nor am I a fan of yaml, but I suspect that as yaml gets more prevalent, there will be more tools to help validate it more easily and help sysadmins debug it and then I’ll probably like it more I’d rather that systemd stick to trying to disrupt system startup rather than try to introduce another network configuration mechanism. If it wasn’t tied to systemd then I probably wouldn’t have as much of an issue with it.
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May 21, 2019 05:47
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iirc systemd-network is a really basic tool for simple containers and you're supposed to use network manager for real network configuration
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systemd-networkd is perfect for servers and desktops, NetworkManager for laptops
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May 21, 2019 07:44
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trilljester posted:I sure do love their new way to set static IP addresses in the latest Ubuntu Server. JFC, could they make it anymore obscure and bizarre? they could make TCP/IP an optional package provided by several independent vendors! SYS$COMMON:SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM has at least three “uncomment to start TCP/IP at boot” sections in OpenVMS 7.3
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May 21, 2019 08:07
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trilljester posted:I think the netplan.yaml file that's what most off-putting by it. It used to be: sounds like this configuration should just be handled by systemd instead
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May 21, 2019 08:09
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florida lan posted:i work at a company that primarily works in lua 
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May 21, 2019 08:23
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my bitter bi rival posted:yaml is good. no.
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May 21, 2019 08:40
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Tankakern posted:heh, esr didnt quite succeed with his gcc svn to git project esr finally posted a followup https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2019-05/msg01166.html
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May 21, 2019 09:51
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my bitter bi rival posted:yaml is good. it's ok, can't say I've had issues with it and I've written many yamls
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May 21, 2019 10:08
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the issue I have with netplan is that it's just a wrapper and all it does is generate network-manager style configurations except it doesn't have all the functionality of network-manager, there's no one-liner to disable it and remove it from the system and there's no guide for installing the latest from source yaml is fine imo and I've written and read shitloads of it.
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May 21, 2019 10:24
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Tankakern posted:esr finally posted a followup https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2019-05/msg01166.html Must be nice to get given free highend computer poo poo to do nothing with
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el dorito posted:I’m not a fan of netplan, nor am I a fan of yaml, but I suspect that as yaml gets more prevalent, there will be more tools to help validate it more easily and help sysadmins debug it and then I’ll probably like it more systemd: a good init system tightly coupled with a bunch of stuff that's bad and nobody wants
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May 21, 2019 12:30
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my bitter bi rival posted:yaml is good. https://arp242.net/yaml-config.html
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Tankakern posted:esr finally posted a followup https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2019-05/msg01166.html is esr == radium? seems like it
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Poopernickel posted:systemd: a good init system tightly coupled with a bunch of stuff that's bad and nobody wants nah i like the idea of getting rid of all the snowflake bullshit that the distros pile on as long as its a single way of doing things i dont loving care
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Sapozhnik posted:be a lot easier if everybody used systemd-networkd tbh but then the usual suspects would fill their diapers again hm this rules can i use it with centos
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i like the part where they're mad about the type of indentation they used in the example they constructed themselves
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May 21, 2019 12:47
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my stepdads beer posted:hm this rules can i use it with centos yes, in 7 only tho I think
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May 21, 2019 13:27
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Yet Another Markup Language
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quote:especially since 2-space indentation is the norm and tab indentation is forbidden oh no it uses the correct indentation
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jfc it’s two thousand nineteen, version 18.04.2 and ububu finally has ‘install openssh server’ in the mother loving installer as an option
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as far as i remember it was always installed by default in ubu server, i guess now there is an option to omit it (not inclined to test out old versions in a vm to check this though)
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May 29, 2019 18:45
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Lysidas posted:as far as i remember it was always installed by default in ubu server, i guess now there is an option to omit it its been too long but i think i recall both ubs and rhel server pingponged between having it/not having it over the years rhel 7.0 -> 7.5 base installers were a rollercoaster
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also someone finally inherited your qnap and it thoroughly  'd them
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https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/shipping-a-linux-kernel-with-windows/ Thread title is prophetic because Microsoft is planning to have Linux be an optional feature in Windows.
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graph posted:also someone finally inherited your qnap and it thoroughly yep, that brand was recommended to me by a guy in the genetics department and i would not touch one of those with a ten foot pole ever again and do you mean the 10-disk one or the 16-disk (afaik)? the 16-disk one was hosed in some difficult-to-diagnose way, it failed to boot from its own software even after an attempted manual firmware update, but it was fine with multiple live linux distros you also brought back horrible memories of splicing in qnap's lvm customizations into a stock linux kernel, to be able to recover data after the 16-disk nas blew up
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Lysidas posted:yep, that brand was recommended to me by a guy in the genetics department and i would not touch one of those with a ten foot pole ever again the 16er haha
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i have some qnaps at work. avoid at all costs imo, they're terrible.
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synology or gtfo
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the best way to use a qnap* is to you run it permanently from a flashdrive with nas4free (or whatever that project has been renamed to now), zero the internal flash so the qnap software is completely expunged from the hardware, then format the internal flash fat32 to store nas4free persistrent config *e.g. if you already own one due to bad decisions in the past
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this weekend i was going to resize one of the qnaps because i put bigger disks in, so in my dumbass naivety i just clicked "expand array" or whatever in the web gui. this lead to the qnap saying i get more space, doing something for around 15 minutes, and then the array becoming unmounted. turns out it resized the partition alright, but the new array was 4 blocks smaller than the old one and obviously refused to mount lmao the only saving grace of that piece of poo poo is that ssh works so i can fix the fuckups it's been doing lately Lysidas posted:the best way to use a qnap* is to you run it permanently from a flashdrive with nas4free (or whatever that project has been renamed to now), zero the internal flash so the qnap software is completely expunged from the hardware, then format the internal flash fat32 to store nas4free persistrent config unironically thanks for this, i'm finally buying new hardware at work and qnaps are gonna be repurposed for slow archive dumps, might as well run something that doesn't randomly explode my raid iguess
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