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The elusive target always brings me back for more than just the target but i totally agree and miss the episodic map releases. At least theres some dlc to look forward to. It sucks that that awesome drip feed of new hitman levels was dropped so that a bunch of whiny cunts that didnt buy hitman 2 either complained theyd buy the game if it wasnt episodic
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The regular sprinkles of nw and old legacy conent keep me coming back decently well so far. Kimono + samurai sword also make me do stupid weeb gimmick runs.
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May 19, 2019 21:16
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In retrospect the episodic release did work really well for this kind of game. Although it is possible that the majority of the players only care about beating every level once.
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May 19, 2019 21:34
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Dr_0ctag0n posted:I finished hitman 2 (rather sloppily) in like a single afternoon. lol shut the gently caress up
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May 19, 2019 22:28
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You're never finished with Hitman. Never!
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May 19, 2019 23:08
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elf help book posted:lol shut the gently caress up Lol is someone mad that the $60 game they like was designed to be beaten in a few hours?
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May 21, 2019 01:43
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Dr_0ctag0n posted:Lol is someone mad that the $60 game they like was designed to be beaten in a few hours? Just the laziest possible trolling here man
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May 21, 2019 02:33
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The only way you could beat the game in a few hours is if you just shoot your way through everything. And if that is the case, you trolled yourself.
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May 21, 2019 05:30
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Zedd posted:The regular sprinkles of nw and old legacy conent keep me coming back decently well so far. yeah, i'll pop back in every elusive target and also hit up some challenges, whether the new ones or the normal ones I haven't completed yet
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May 21, 2019 05:38
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GreyjoyBastard posted:yeah, i'll pop back in every elusive target and also hit up some challenges, whether the new ones or the normal ones I haven't completed yet I took a few spins around Miami to do the blue flamingo + fishing line challenges before hitting up Sean Bean again (used the robot this time). I think IOI does a pretty good job of adding stuff like that to point you in the direction of neat features of the map (I had no idea that wood chipper was even there, or the big shark in the aquarium). Hoping the next new ET is in Mumbai because that's the one map where I feel like I've maybe explored like 15% of it thus far. Its just so ridiculously big and dense and probably the most vertical map in S1+2 which is neat.
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May 21, 2019 05:51
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Cojawfee posted:The only way you could beat the game in a few hours is if you just shoot your way through everything. And if that is the case, you trolled yourself. Not really. After playing the first one for 100+hrs and the game literally giving you a HUD-marking, hand-holding, story guide through every map enabled by default and unlimited manual saves, you'd have to be stupid as hell or intentionally slowing yourself down to not fly through the second one in a matter of hours. Hell, the sheer curiosity of knowing what levels are next and being able to start them immediately after a botched 0-score run probably made like every casual player sprint through it just as fast. I'd be interested to see the percentage of players who beat all the levels and quit vs the folks who got 100% mastery. I wouldn't be surprised if the number is something like 80/20 and everyone in this thread is in the latter group. Wolfsheim posted:Just the laziest possible trolling here man It sure rustled that posters jimmies.
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May 21, 2019 13:30
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Of both the newer hitman games, what would you guys rate the top three maps and bottom three maps? Best: Sapienza Hokkaido Miami Worst: Marrakesh Colorado Colombia
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May 21, 2019 13:39
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Dr_0ctag0n posted:Of both the newer hitman games, what would you guys rate the top three maps and bottom three maps? There's only two maps I dislike: Colorado - I just don't like the scenario and its too small. Columbia - The individual areas are cool but they're way to far apart and feel too isolated. I think Colorado is the only map I actively dislike and avoid. I love every other map.  Sapienza is definitely the best.
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May 21, 2019 13:58
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Snuffman posted:There's only two maps I dislike: Yeah I agree. I feel like Colorado, Colombia, and Marrakesh have the same general problem that everything is too far spread out and feels like 2-4 disconnected missions rather than one cohesive area. The same can be said about Sgail too, imo, but I enjoyed it more because the level story/atmosphere.
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May 21, 2019 14:45
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Mumbai and Miami would be tied for me in a top 3 and I would put Bangkok lower than Colorado. I like Colorado for being different even if that makes it fairly difficult; Bangkok is confusing to navigate IMO and too much of the map is locked down for my liking.
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May 21, 2019 14:52
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Dr_0ctag0n posted:Of both the newer hitman games, what would you guys rate the top three maps and bottom three maps? i found it better to rate them based on best map, favourite map, best mission, and favourite mission for example, i reckon sapienza is the best map, but it has a poo poo mission because it doesn't use that map very well. hokkaido is my favourite map, but it's not the best map because it's windy and hard to navigate. colorado is a poo poo map, but it doesn't have a poo poo mission. marrakesh is a bad map, but marrakesh at night is a good map because it cuts out the bad parts. my top 3 maps are sapienza, miami, and mumbai. my favourite maps are hokkaido and miami. i don't like or dislike mumbai, but i think it's one of the best maps. what are your thoughts?
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patient zero is best mission by far. e: I think hokkaido is at least in the top 3 for best map, with sapienza and miami being close contenders. Mumbai would be in there as well (replace sapienza) , except I don't like the slums' attack on my framerate and the enforcers/crowds mechanic gets old fast. double nine fucked around with this message at 17:00 on May 21, 2019 |
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Miami is my favorite map. There’s so much to do, the atmosphere is more fun than other maps and you have two distinct halves of the map that can still be utilized together if you wanted to. It’s certainly no where close to the most challenging map, but I love it.
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Top 3: Sapienza Mumbai Miami Bottom 3: Marrakesh Bangkok Colombia
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May 21, 2019 19:48
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Dr_0ctag0n posted:Not really. After playing the first one for 100+hrs and the game literally giving you a HUD-marking, hand-holding, story guide through every map enabled by default and unlimited manual saves, you'd have to be stupid as hell or intentionally slowing yourself down to not fly through the second one in a matter of hours. Hell, the sheer curiosity of knowing what levels are next and being able to start them immediately after a botched 0-score run probably made like every casual player sprint through it just as fast. I bought the expensive edition of H2 because I like the series. I have really only played Miami and Columbia, with only walking around Mumbai a little without actually killing any targets.
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May 21, 2019 20:21
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Maps I love most: Japan Miami Mumbai (made my computer sad tho) Sapienza Weakest map award: Colorado Missions I love most: Hawke's Bay Miami Paris Whittleton Weakest mission award: Club 27 Master SA/SO gently caress this poo poo award: Club 27
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May 21, 2019 20:55
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I literally had to buy new ram for Mumbai. Imo the worst SASO is sgail, since you have almost no options of dealing with the twins. Grapplejack fucked around with this message at 21:05 on May 21, 2019 |
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May 21, 2019 20:56
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Cojawfee posted:The only way you could beat the game in a few hours is if you just shoot your way through everything. And if that is the case, you trolled yourself.
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May 21, 2019 21:19
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That was actually painful to look at.
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Shootman
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May 21, 2019 21:25
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Well it's not called Chokeman for a reason, DUH
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Don't you...have to pacify guys during the tutorial? Though that's not totally surprising, per steam statistics I think only like 60% of players ever play past the first 15 minutes of any given game or something
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Well, yeah, but...  That 44% pacify someone is the achievement with higher % of completion. Only 20% have played the first two missions, violently, stealthily or however. So it seems like half of the people who bought the game, haven't really played it, it went directly to their backlog. Or the achievements are screwed, one of the two.
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 guys, Hitman 2's tutorial is available for free (i.e. Hawke's bay) and that means everyone and their mother has added it and idled for cards without playing it. That's why achievements are wonked
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Turin Turambar posted:Well, yeah, but... Achievements and opportunities and half the gameplay features are fully and totally hosed if you have bad internet and can't reliably play online. I've experienced the frustration of this myself when I had some internet outages due to physical damage to the cables connected to my house, and the sheer downgrade in playability and quality of life in the game make it almost feel like it's not worth playing at all. Thanks, online-only DRM bullshit.
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StrixNebulosa posted:
Go check this stuff on PS4 if you want the real numbers.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Go check this stuff on PS4 if you want the real numbers. Shhhh, 84.4% Unseen Assassin 39.7% Cleared for Field Duty 30.3% (ICA) Infiltrator 30.3% (Hawke’s Bay) Damage Control 15.4% (Miami)
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Colorado is a significantly better map now with foliage added and the fixed sightcones. It's still not that interesting or dynamic, but it's way less bad than it was in 2016.
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Nakar posted:Colorado is a significantly better map now with foliage added and the fixed sightcones. It's still not that interesting or dynamic, but it's way less bad than it was in 2016. But is it still the worst map or did these enhancements elevate it amongst some other scrub tier map??
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Wolfsheim posted:But is it still the worst map or did these enhancements elevate it amongst some other scrub tier map?? bangkok is the worst map
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where the red fern gropes posted:bangkok is the worst map Personally I still prefer Bangkok over Colorado. Doing Colorado SASO was a special kind of hell.
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Jack Trades posted:Personally I still prefer Bangkok over Colorado. Most of the problem with Colorado was the exit condition, though. Bangkok just essentially sucks. edit: otoh i've never done it saso Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 07:08 on May 22, 2019 |
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Jack Trades posted:Personally I still prefer Bangkok over Colorado. once you realise you can SASO colorado without leaving the farmhouse it becomes pretty good bangkok is just dull and there's only 1 or 2 viable exits
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Bangkok low key has much worse flow and AI scripting issues than Colorado, where the problems, such as they are, are pretty apparent. Some of this boils down to how much we'd want all maps to accommodate the same identical "ideal" hitman playground map layout, or whether some should have specific gameplay-effecting characteristics.
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i think one of the hitman devs once mentioned 'porousness' which is basically how many holes there are in the walls that you can sneak through. for example, hokkaido is very porous unless you're trying to get from the resort into the hospital - compare that to trying to get anywhere else in the map. bangkok has almost no porousness; getting to the top floor of jordan's studio basically involves using the single available pipe, and then climbing one of two sets of stairs. colorado has no porousness because the entire map is just open good maps have porousness, bad maps don't
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