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PRADA SLUT
Mar 14, 2006

Inexperienced,
heartless,
but even so
Also, low beds don't use boxsprings, they use convex slats as the 'spring' cushioning and typically have mattresses of latex or foam, so they don't have as much height. It makes the entire thing sit low, as opposed to having two feet of mattress + boxspring, which requires these huge sidewalls to hide it.

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bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Phil Moscowitz posted:

Grandad lamps always get no respect. I have one that I claimed that sat in the bonus room until it got kicked out to make room for more kid crap. Now it sits majestically in my office.

My grandad made it out of a Remington M1867 rifle.

My wife despises it.



the thick base molding that goes right on the exposed brick is really nice too

Faustian Bargain
Apr 12, 2014


Phil Moscowitz posted:

Grandad lamps always get no respect. I have one that I claimed that sat in the bonus room until it got kicked out to make room for more kid crap. Now it sits majestically in my office.

My grandad made it out of a Remington M1867 rifle.

My wife despises it.


This owns even though it’s not my aesthetic. Put it in the living room.

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


Jaded Burnout posted:

Is it low beds or thick mattresses that are the contributing factor these days?
It’s thick mattresses and thick box springs. The height to the top of the mattress is usually 30” or thereaboutson a 4-poster, but now mattress+box springs have gotten to be like 18-24” thick (30yrs ago both together might have been 12-18”) and so all my bed rails are almost touching the ground and look dumb or the mattress/springs have to hang down on low angle irons below the rails and you have to get a dust ruffle to hide them and that’s a pain.

E: you really don’t need box springs-slats with a piece of plywood on top or a bunkie or whatever work fine but a lot of mattress manufacturers won’t honor their warranty if you don’t use their box springs, and now they even require additional support under the bxoxnsprings because they are basically building the box springs out of toothpicks and popsicles sticks and paper mache.

Kaiser Schnitzel fucked around with this message at 17:10 on May 21, 2019

The Wonder Weapon
Dec 16, 2006




Mount the base flush against the wall

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

Makes me want a gundelier

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!
My office is in an old row building, used to be a feed store I think, then some kind of spice mercantile building (CHOAM lol). It's like 300 150 years old. Lots of wood and brick, beamed ceilings. It has so much potential. I want to tear up the carpet but my partners aren't interested.

Anyway my house has a completely different look and the gunlamp doesn't really fit. It goes pretty well in my office though. So here it lives until I build a camp/cabin.

Phil Moscowitz fucked around with this message at 17:23 on May 21, 2019

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


Kaiser Schnitzel posted:

slats with a piece of plywood on top

Doesn't that somewhat defeat the point of the slats?

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


Jaded Burnout posted:

Doesn't that somewhat defeat the point of the slats?
Yeah you don't really need the plywood, but if you cover it in batting/fabric it'll keep splinters out of your mattress and I guess theoretically spread the load out between the slats more evenly? And with no box springs you don't want gaps between the slats.

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


Kaiser Schnitzel posted:

Yeah you don't really need the plywood, but if you cover it in batting/fabric it'll keep splinters out of your mattress and I guess theoretically spread the load out between the slats more evenly? And with no box springs you don't want gaps between the slats.

Every bed I've had in my life has had just slats with gaps for ventilation. Just regular ol' lengths of wood on a frame with a mattress on it.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

YOU RESENT?

Jaded Burnout posted:

Every bed I've had in my life has had just slats with gaps for ventilation. Just regular ol' lengths of wood on a frame with a mattress on it.

My current bed is like that. Some mattress brands in the UK (memory foam etc) actually require this kind of base, or they’ll be too saggy.

Imo the base is just needed to lift your bed off the cold floor and aid ventilation - it doesn’t need to do anything else.

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
I got this terrible ikea Malm thing thats super low, and has either wooden or springy slats you can buy to put the mattress on. It has these extra wide flat sides that I can put my glasses and phone on at night so no more night stands. it rules

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

Phil Moscowitz posted:

Grandad lamps always get no respect. I have one that I claimed that sat in the bonus room until it got kicked out to make room for more kid crap. Now it sits majestically in my office.

My grandad made it out of a Remington M1867 rifle.

My wife despises it.



My grandfather has a table lamp in his living room that I dearly wish I had pictures of to post here. The base is a sculptural piece (made by him) of a forest glade, featuring a naked nymph and a satyr with a boner (is there any other kind of satyr?). I intend to make it part of my inheritance, if my dad doesn't lay claim first.

there wolf
Jan 11, 2015

by Fluffdaddy

Antivehicular posted:

My grandfather has a table lamp in his living room that I dearly wish I had pictures of to post here. The base is a sculptural piece (made by him) of a forest glade, featuring a naked nymph and a satyr with a boner (is there any other kind of satyr?). I intend to make it part of my inheritance, if my dad doesn't lay claim first.

No, Saytrs are priapic. Fauns aren't, though, and people get them confused a lot.

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

PRADA SLUT posted:

Also, low beds don't use boxsprings, they use convex slats as the 'spring' cushioning and typically have mattresses of latex or foam, so they don't have as much height. It makes the entire thing sit low, as opposed to having two feet of mattress + boxspring, which requires these huge sidewalls to hide it.

Just to be clear, my current bed also has slats, it's just much higher up.

HelloIAmYourHeart
Dec 29, 2008
Fallen Rib
I asked for, and received, the "green bean lamp" from my grandparents' house. It is a table lamp base made of a wrought iron in the shape of a green bean vine, complete with beans. I don't have anywhere to put it right now though unfortunately.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

The Wonder Weapon posted:

To everyone recommending my game room turn into some sort of themed dungeon: I definitely spent some time considering it. I was originally thinking of a cozy, "hidden library" type feel along the lines of the picture below.


Among the various issues with that is the huge window overlooking the sweeping lawn doesn't really fit that aesthetic. If this were in the basement I'd be all over it. For the time being I'm just doing a light, open, clean space. A year or two down the line, after more of my more pressing projects are tackled, maybe I'll consider a redesign.

Wood shutters on the window might work.

Phil Moscowitz posted:

Grandad lamps always get no respect. I have one that I claimed that sat in the bonus room until it got kicked out to make room for more kid crap. Now it sits majestically in my office.

My grandad made it out of a Remington M1867 rifle.

My wife despises it.



:sever:

funeral home DJ
Apr 21, 2003


Pillbug
Can anyone suggest what kind of professional I should look to in order to understand how many of the basement support poles in my home are necessary? I was looking up architects, but I’m now second-guessing myself and wondering if I need to contact the services of a specific type of engineer.

My 1960’s ranch house has a bunch of metal poles holding up the joists and beams from the unfinished basement, and the poles are sort of randomly spaced out and located on beams at random distances throughout the area. This makes finishing the basement (or at least getting a nice open game room for kids) kind of a bitch. When we bought the home the inspector said that the supports looked like they were overkill, and an uncle in the construction business is speculating that the original design of the house may have called for a second floor which was never added.

I have zero desire to touch dick-fuckin-squat until someone with the proper physics knowledge gives it an eye-over and can suggest if some of these poles can be relocated (or removed entirely). What person in what sort of occupation should I be asking for this sort of analysis? Is it an architect, or structural engineer of some sorts? I’d rather not have to go through a corporation and pay the overhead, but if it’s necessary I’ll consider it.

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


A structural engineer is who the architect is going to call. If you google/call around around and tell people what you’re trying to do you should be able to find a structural engineer that does a lot of residential stuff. You may have the best luck calling a small residential architect and asking who they use.

If you are getting whatever changes you are contemplating permitted etc. the engineer is going to have to take a good bit of time making/stamping a drawing-if you and bubba are just going to do it yourselves (you probably shouldn’t) the engineer can probably just tell you what to do and pretend they were never there and just charge you for a consultation or something.

You also might actually need all those poles.

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


Google "basement specialist" in your area. There is an entire industry just focused on basement issues, from foundations to water to whatever. Structural engineers are one thing but the basement people usually have that, with a specific focus on basements in particular.

Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



Bad Munki posted:

Google "basement specialist" in your area. There is an entire industry just focused on basement issues, from foundations to water to whatever. Structural engineers are one thing but the basement people usually have that, with a specific focus on basements in particular.

Good call, because the slab or whatever the poles rest on, is also going to have its load rating. You probably don't have a stem wall or piers under them.

funeral home DJ
Apr 21, 2003


Pillbug

Bad Munki posted:

Google "basement specialist" in your area. There is an entire industry just focused on basement issues, from foundations to water to whatever. Structural engineers are one thing but the basement people usually have that, with a specific focus on basements in particular.

Will do, thanks. I’ll call a few places and see what’s up.

Kaiser Schnitzel posted:

If you are getting whatever changes you are contemplating permitted etc. the engineer is going to have to take a good bit of time making/stamping a drawing-if you and bubba are just going to do it yourselves (you probably shouldn’t) the engineer can probably just tell you what to do and pretend they were never there and just charge you for a consultation or something.

You also might actually need all those poles.

I believe the poles are there for a reason, because nobody sane would waste all that money installing useless supports. That said, their locations are what’s puzzling me, and I wonder if it’d be safe moving them a few feet while supporting the same joists and beams. If I could get a few of them relocated, I could easily build up a decent looking semi-finished area that would be a hell of a lot more comfortable to relax in during the summer months.

Also I was intending to be the bubba at large there but if an engineer gives me the “holy poo poo no” then I’m not going to touch anything. I’d rather not have my house cave in on my skull.

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


The structural engineer I got to check the work on my house charged around £700+VAT, and that included most of a day site visit and calcs & marking up drawings for significant changes to most of the house. I can't imagine one would cost you too much to check on your supports.

The best guess I'd have for why they're placed where they are is either there's some rhyme or reason that you're not seeing (like they're underneath specific walls and transferring load straight down) or that just happened to be the most convenient order to put them up in during construction. Either way your SEng will have the answers. And anything can be solved with enough steel.

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

Taste my Ball of Hope, foul dragon!


Ripoff posted:

Also I was intending to be the bubba at large there but if an engineer gives me the “holy poo poo no” then I’m not going to touch anything. I’d rather not have my house cave in on my skull.

But think of the ladies!

Rotten Cookies
Nov 11, 2008

gosh! i like both the islanders and the rangers!!! :^)

Jaded Burnout posted:

And anything can be solved with enough steel.

And that's where my shop comes in! :v

BigFactory
Sep 17, 2002
Hopefully those metal poles are called lally columns and aren’t actually what I’m picturing in my head. If it is just a bunch of metal poles than maybe they are all needed. Floor sagging again? Throw in another pole!

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


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PRADA SLUT
Mar 14, 2006

Inexperienced,
heartless,
but even so
just erect a circular stage around them and let the kids play on that

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

Jaded Burnout posted:

Every bed I've had in my life has had just slats with gaps for ventilation. Just regular ol' lengths of wood on a frame with a mattress on it.

I’d never even heard of a box spring until I moved to America.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
Platform/slat beds have become way more popular in the US in the last 2 decades because foam mattresses have become way more popular.

The last time platform beds had an upswing in the US was in the 70s/80s when futon mattresses gained a bit of popularity.

Then in the 2000s memory foam exploded in market share as companies started rolling out their own polyurethane TempurPedic competitors, and interest in latex foam mattresses and “hybrid” latex-poly mattresses followed suit. Then you start getting brands like Casper/Leesa/Purple/etc that capitalize on foam’s packable nature to ship straight to online shoppers and you’ve got the current explosion in platform beds.

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

This bed is on "sale" for $1900. They didn't have any pictures of the upholestered version on their website but they sent me one

https://www.dwr.com/bedroom-beds/min-bed-with-headboard/6353.html

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bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
""""""""within reach"""""""

SpartanIvy
May 18, 2007
Hair Elf
That is a good looking frame though

PRADA SLUT
Mar 14, 2006

Inexperienced,
heartless,
but even so

actionjackson posted:

This bed is on "sale" for $1900. They didn't have any pictures of the upholestered version on their website but they sent me one

https://www.dwr.com/bedroom-beds/min-bed-with-headboard/6353.html



The upholstered configuration isn't on sale.

graph
Nov 22, 2006

aaag peanuts

Ripoff posted:

Also I was intending to be the bubba at large there but if an engineer gives me the “holy poo poo no” then I’m not going to touch anything. I’d rather not have my house cave in on my skull.

but what if you decide to sell and females come over to assess the value efb

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

PRADA SLUT posted:

The upholstered configuration isn't on sale.

Which configurations are on sale? I can't find any combinations that qualify.

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

My other thought is to get the ikea delaktig bed and then get the headboard upholstered if possible. The frame is anodized aluminum and the headboard is fiberboard, ash veneer, stain and lacquer

PRADA SLUT
Mar 14, 2006

Inexperienced,
heartless,
but even so

actionjackson posted:

Which configurations are on sale? I can't find any combinations that qualify.

I don't know, but the price will be in red if it is. It's probably a product they're not selling anymore and are clearing inventory

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trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

actionjackson posted:

My other thought is to get the ikea delaktig bed and then get the headboard upholstered if possible. The frame is anodized aluminum and the headboard is fiberboard, ash veneer, stain and lacquer

I’ve said it before wrt “period” decor and stuff like bookcases (Billy is welcome anywhere post-1965) but there ain’t nothing wrong with mixing (or tweaking) good ikea pieces into a room. Esp when the alternative is something ludicrous like $2k. I will buy a few different $4-8k chairs and $10k lights given the opportunity but that DWR bed is a hard sell.

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