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I have a B450M Pro4 and I really cant complain. I got it because of the 2 m2 slots in micro factor being not the easiest to come by, but i am very satisfied with the board regardless.
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Why am I not able to dynamically overclock my 1700? Am I just being a dummy or do I need the 1700X for easier overclocking? It's my first venture into Ryzen territory.
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May 22, 2019 00:34
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apropos man posted:Why am I not able to dynamically overclock my 1700? Am I just being a dummy or do I need the 1700X for easier overclocking? Check your Windows power settings. The "high performance" one sets your CPU to be on max at all times. Intel CPUs do this too so sorry if you know this already but it's something easy to check if not.
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May 22, 2019 00:45
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apropos man posted:No complaints apart from that but you're probably best off with a Tomahawk. B450 Pro carbon has better built-in audio and two m.2 slots, one of which doesn't rob any of the SATA ports. Tomahawk's one slot does. If the Carbon is a reasonably priced step up, get that.
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May 22, 2019 00:49
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Humerus posted:Check your Windows power settings. The "high performance" one sets your CPU to be on max at all times. This will result in higher idle temps and will give your CPU less thermal overhead to hit turbo clocks when it needs them.
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May 22, 2019 00:57
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Craptacular! posted:B450 Pro carbon has better built-in audio and two m.2 slots, one of which doesn't rob any of the SATA ports. Tomahawk's one slot does. If the Carbon is a reasonably priced step up, get that. The Pro Carbon is my go-to recommendation if you want two m.2 slots. Besides the better audio, it's also small VRM upgrade over the Tomahawk, has built-in wifi/bluetooth, and you get Intel LAN instead of Realtek. It's usually $25-30 more expensive than the Tomahawk, though, so if you don't really need the extra features it's not worth it. The Asus Prime X470-Pro is also a decent choice if when it's around the same price as the Pro Carbon (right now they're both $140). It has most of the same features as the Pro Carbon, but loses the Wifi and gains a USB 3.1 Gen 2 front panel header, 2 additional 3.1 Gen 1 ports of the back, and is another step up in onboard audio.
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May 22, 2019 02:19
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There is definitely a pc part picking thread that is happy to go back and forth on future proofing your next 100 dollar motherboard, thank you.
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May 22, 2019 02:45
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LRADIKAL posted:There is definitely a pc part picking thread that is happy to go back and forth on future proofing your next 100 dollar motherboard, thank you. ♫ And now we return to our regularly scheduled speculation over Ryzen 3000 at Computex 2019, already in progress ♫
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Statutory Ape posted:Oooh, 2070 performance at the price of a...nice 2070 from evga and massive warranty As (a? the?) resident "how much science can it crunch" nerd, I want to be excited for Navi, because AMD GPUs tend to beat Nvidia pretty good in the raw compute department. But... GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:I'll be surprised if it needs less then 250W Yeah, me too. I have a stack of 4 machines running 24/7, using the air in my living room as a heat exchange medium. I stick to the 75W and under cards. I'd love a Navi variant to be released that competes directly with the GTX 1650, but I'll believe that when I read reviews and benchmarks.
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May 22, 2019 05:12
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apropos man posted:Tomahawk seems to be default answer for a decent board that should be compatible and is already a good board. To get dynamic overclocking one method is to adjust the P-states in the bios. It's buried in the advanced tab under the Zen Common Options page.
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May 22, 2019 05:23
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Conartist posted:To get dynamic overclocking one method is to adjust the P-states in the bios. It's buried in the advanced tab under the Zen Common Options page. Speaking of dynamic overlcoking... is the max you can do to let an X processor overclock by itself to enable precision boost overdrive and set PPT, TDC and EDC to max?
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May 22, 2019 05:33
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Conartist posted:To get dynamic overclocking one method is to adjust the P-states in the bios. It's buried in the advanced tab under the Zen Common Options page. Cool. I'll have a mangle of my P states this evening! Thanks.
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May 22, 2019 05:37
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LRADIKAL posted:There is definitely a pc part picking thread that is happy to go back and forth on future proofing your next 100 dollar motherboard, thank you. I never go there because I don't know what I'm talking about for the vast majority of hardware. I posted about the MSI B450 boards because they're in that tiny, tiny sliver of hardware I actually shopped for and use. But we can go back to hot takes about Adored BS leaks if you like.
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May 22, 2019 06:44
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If I want to read a boring back and forth about hyper specific parts picking (and sometimes I do), then I'll go to the other thread. Nerds in the parts picking thread are tripping over each other to give the best advice! There's tons of interesting stuff that can be talked about in this thread, industry, technical stuff, or physics. It's come up in this thread before. Come up with something that isn't better off in another thread.
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LRADIKAL posted:If I want to read a boring back and forth about hyper specific parts picking (and sometimes I do), then I'll go to the other thread. Nerds in the parts picking thread are tripping over each other to give the best advice! Heaven forbid people discuss AMD boards in the AMD thread. How about you start a discussion about a topic you want or just ignore the posts you don’t care for. Or keep complaining about what you don’t find interesting, it most definitely doesn’t make you sound like a tool. B-Mac fucked around with this message at 13:38 on May 22, 2019 |
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May 22, 2019 13:18
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LRADIKAL posted:If I want to read a boring back and forth about hyper specific parts picking (and sometimes I do), then I'll go to the other thread. Nerds in the parts picking thread are tripping over each other to give the best advice! Have you considered not going around to multiple threads in this forum and intentionally making GBS threads them up when people discuss ancillary topics that you don't want to read?
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May 22, 2019 13:34
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LRADIKAL posted:Come up with something that isn't better off in another thread. Good thing the forum is here for your personal satisfaction and enjoyment.
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May 22, 2019 13:59
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Hmmm... a thread full of people with AMD on-hands experience. Surely they will be able to help me figure out, a person who has no experience with AMD prior (not a hyperbole either) what motherboard to get! Wait, I'm not allowed to ask AMD related questions in the AMD thread?
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This is an Intel thread now. Intel does what AMDon't (cost twice as much and burn hotter than the surface of the sun). Edit: also it's thread, singular, because we had to disable hyperthreading. Dramicus fucked around with this message at 14:40 on May 22, 2019 |
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May 22, 2019 14:35
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simultaneous multi thread making GBS threads
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Dramicus posted:Edit: also it's thread, singular, because we had to disable hyperthreading. 
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A little off topic, but does anyone remember the Intel product - I think it was the Pentium II - that was going to ship with a 'security feature' that involved something like a single globally unique ID string baked into each processor, which was to be exposed to apps and *websites* for the purpose of assisting in 'verifying the identity' of the user? I remember specifically that they suggested it would help your bank know it's really you when logging in to your bank account online. The way I remember it, Intel fought to keep it, suggesting it could be turned off at the bios or some such, but they actually got beat down hard enough by the backlash that they dropped it before product launch altogether. I knew it was a terrible idea at the time, I mean, we all did.. but in hindsight, fuuuuuck, that would have been such a terrible genie to let out of the bottle on so many levels. I'm sure some Intel business unit had a motivating supplier of wheel grease (DRM lobby being the least scary scenario that I can think of) to push for it, but I can't imagine the engineers and ... everyone else, not objecting to it before it got as close to being a reality as it did.
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Statutory Ape posted:simultaneous multi thread making GBS threads *slaps ryzen processor* this baby can poo poo on 64 threads at once.
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Bloody Antlers posted:A little off topic, but does anyone remember the Intel product - I think it was the Pentium II - that was going to ship with a 'security feature' that involved something like a single globally unique ID string baked into each processor, which was to be exposed to apps and *websites* for the purpose of assisting in 'verifying the identity' of the user? I remember specifically that they suggested it would help your bank know it's really you when logging in to your bank account online. This? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPUID#EAX=3:_Processor_Serial_Number
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I think he’s talking about PSN, which was in the Pentium 3 and then pulled after people got mad. Pretty sure the serial came back in modern CPUs and nobody noticed this time.
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if you're worried about software being able to read a globally unique hardware ID i've got some bad news about network adapters
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repiv posted:if you're worried about software being able to read a globally unique hardware ID i've got some bad news about network adapters They are somewhat easier to spoof than a CPU.
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Cygni posted:I think he’s talking about PSN, which was in the Pentium 3 and then pulled after people got mad. It was why boards shipped with the option to turn CPUID off. I remember it because I switched to Intel in the midst of that stuff. As one of those "hail corporate" types who thought internet privacy was stupid tinfoil poo poo before we started storing so much data online, I was eager to get my forehead barcode.
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meanwhile in 2019: https://sensorid.cl.cam.ac.uk
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Hello Thanks all for the help! I greatly appreciate it  e: I just realized I forgot to hook my front audio jacks up again, whoops.
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You gotta tidy those cables! Someone get the Velcro straps!
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May 22, 2019 23:10
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KKKLIP ART posted:You gotta tidy those cables! Someone get the Velcro straps! Someone call computer protective services
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KKKLIP ART posted:You gotta tidy those cables! Someone get the Velcro straps! As long as it's not a glass case it's not like it impedes airflow to any appreciable degree. That dust on the other hand...
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jisforjosh posted:As long as it's not a glass case it's not like it impedes airflow to any appreciable degree. It's a sign of age  I did spray out most of it though earlier today, guess I missed some stuff laying on the PSU and capture card.But yeah, I don't have a window case so cable management isn't really important.
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jisforjosh posted:As long as it's not a glass case it's not like it impedes airflow to any appreciable degree. True. I remember trying to navigate fat rounded ata cables and it being a nightmare. I still like to have everything nice and tidy and tucked out of the way, which is yet another reason I’m stoked about m2 drives for whenever I can build next.
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May 22, 2019 23:32
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I want to go back to the days of beige full towers and extremely loud Delta fans.
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My PC can shitpost 48 threads at once, and boy howdy do I push this processor to its limits!
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KKKLIP ART posted:True. I remember trying to navigate fat rounded ata cables and it being a nightmare. I still like to have everything nice and tidy and tucked out of the way, which is yet another reason I’m stoked about m2 drives for whenever I can build next. God the flash backs to IDE cables and nonmodular top mounted PSUs with the multi colored cables takes me back. Tempered glass has made me OCD about my own cable management since I see it daily.
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Serious talk: why would anybody have a glass panel on their case? My case sits on the floor, and I sure as gently caress don't care what's in it, so long as it's incredibly powerful and can allow me to compile things really really fast. 
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Lambert posted:I want to go back to the days of beige full towers and extremely loud Delta fans. ratbert90 posted:Serious talk: why would anybody have a glass panel on their case?
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