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A GIANT PARSNIP
Apr 13, 2010

Too much fuckin' eggnog


Sinteres posted:

Pretty funny when Netanyahu has to say hey wait a minute, I only like pretending I want to go to war with Iran.

https://twitter.com/BarakRavid/status/1128764201856655361

Realtalk, I think a status quo US policy of containment when it comes to Iran is clearly good for Israel, because it gets everyone on the same page when it comes to Iran being public enemy number one, but if the US actually removed Iran as a nuisance to them and the Sunni states in the region, the Sunni states would likely realize they don't have nearly the same incentive to cooperate with Israel anymore. US pressure (and Israeli military superiority) could still keep things from exploding into violence, but presumably you'd at least see more calls for solidarity with the Palestinians again, which have faded considerably in recent years.

Also Iran's missiles can't reach New York but they can reach Jerusalem.

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Coldwar timewarp
May 8, 2007



A GIANT PARSNIP posted:

Also Iran's missiles can't reach New York but they can reach Jerusalem.

It’s why I find the basing of B-52s so close to be strange. You have a weapons and refueling capability that leaves your airbase and planes beyond attack. You choose to base them close, in the place they are actually vulnerable. Unless it’s a tripwire force or something.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/17/world/asia/us-airstrike-afghanistan-police.html

US air strike in Afghanistan killed 8 to 17 Afghan police from the unit that called it in.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
The only thing that surprise me with this is that there are still some Afghan policemen to kill.

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>
So long as there is corruption to be done and people left to be mistreated, the afghan national police will continue to exist

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

This is a good tweet thread about how inching toward war can create a momentum of its own that can make a defensive reaction to an intimidating posture look a lot like plans to start a war. Yes, it seems neither side actually wants a war (or at least Trump doesn't, though some of his advisers clearly do), but intentions can be misread, particularly with a president like Trump in charge who's flat out said he likes the idea that Iran doesn't know what he's thinking.

https://twitter.com/ilangoldenberg/status/1129749338471751685

Pembroke Fuse
Dec 29, 2008

OhFunny posted:

US air strike in Afghanistan killed liberated from this mortal coil 8 to 17 Afghan police from the unit that called it in.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Sinteres posted:

This is a good tweet thread about how inching toward war can create a momentum of its own that can make a defensive reaction to an intimidating posture look a lot like plans to start a war. Yes, it seems neither side actually wants a war (or at least Trump doesn't, though some of his advisers clearly do), but intentions can be misread, particularly with a president like Trump in charge who's flat out said he likes the idea that Iran doesn't know what he's thinking.

https://twitter.com/ilangoldenberg/status/1129749338471751685

pretty much. i could see trump stumbling into a war trying to prove how big his cock is and or something like this.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

https://twitter.com/David_Quinones/status/1128027977218916352

hell yeah. liberate them all.

The blue bunny
May 29, 2013

Dapper_Swindler posted:

pretty much. i could see trump stumbling into a war trying to prove how big his cock is and or something like this.

This is a pretty good summary of one of Blainey's theorist in The Causes of War.

Pembroke Fuse
Dec 29, 2008

Dapper_Swindler posted:

pretty much. i could see trump stumbling into a war trying to prove how big his cock is and or something like this.

If only the world's many ills could be resolved with literal dick-measuring contests instead of metaphorical ones.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Pembroke Fuse posted:

If only the world's many ills could be resolved with literal dick-measuring contests instead of metaphorical ones.

well then with trump, the US would always lose.

Pembroke Fuse
Dec 29, 2008

Dapper_Swindler posted:

well then with trump, the US would always lose.

Ron Jeremy 2020

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1130207891049332737

"If you threaten to defend ourselves against our invasion force, we will genocide you with nukes!" --The President of the United States of America

Rent-A-Cop
Oct 15, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

Cat Mattress posted:

"If you threaten to defend ourselves against our invasion force, we will genocide you with nukes!" --The President of the United States of America
Someone has dusted off the old Operation Downfall plan I see.

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
✔️✔️✔️✔️

Cat Mattress posted:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1130207891049332737

"If you threaten to defend ourselves against our invasion force, we will genocide you with nukes!" --The President of the United States of America

The whole world is secretly hoping that to happen

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011

Palladium posted:

The whole world is secretly hoping that to happen

what the gently caress is wrong with you

Pembroke Fuse
Dec 29, 2008

Cease to Hope posted:

what the gently caress is wrong with you

Palladium is a one-shot troll account, it seems.

WorldsStongestNerd
Apr 28, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
My god it must be terrifying to live in a small country and watch the US stumble around making threats like a drunken lout.

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."

WorldsStongestNerd posted:

My god it must be terrifying to live in a small country and watch the US stumble around making threats like a drunken lout.

Eh...if you're a small European country, it's mostly just entertaining but yeah...it has to royally suck if you're a Middle Eastern one. Or a Central/South American one too, for that matter.

CrazyLoon fucked around with this message at 16:43 on May 21, 2019

guidoanselmi
Feb 6, 2008

I thought my ideas were so clear. I wanted to make an honest post. No lies whatsoever.

Well my family can't get medical supplies in Iran. So there's that.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

CrazyLoon posted:

Eh...if you're a small European country, it's mostly just entertaining but yeah...it has to royally suck if you're a Middle Eastern one. Or a Central/South American one too, for that matter.

I think a bunch of small European countries are inside the fallout zone.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

CrazyLoon posted:

Eh...if you're a small European country, it's mostly just entertaining but yeah...

One word: refugees.



Generic reminders that in European languages, it's not the "Middle" East, it's the "Near" East.

Tree Bucket
Apr 1, 2016

R.I.P.idura leucophrys
I wonder what percentage of the world's misery can be attributed to the fact that the English words "Iran" and "Iraq" sound quite similar, cos all those crazy arab countries are the same, amirite.

nrook
Jun 25, 2009

Just let yourself become a worthless person!

Tree Bucket posted:

I wonder what percentage of the world's misery can be attributed to the fact that the English words "Iran" and "Iraq" sound quite similar, cos all those crazy arab countries are the same, amirite.

You sound like Churchill!

Zudgemud
Mar 1, 2009
Grimey Drawer

Cat Mattress posted:

One word: refugees.



Generic reminders that in European languages, it's not the "Middle" East, it's the "Near" East.

No its still middle east in most germanic languages. The near east is a Latin & Slavic thing as far as I know.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Good piece from the NYT about Saudi airstrikes in Yemen and the use of US weapons:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FwV3RE5PrY

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."

Brown Moses posted:

Good piece from the NYT about Saudi airstrikes in Yemen and the use of US weapons:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FwV3RE5PrY

Of course there is a 'no strike' list for the press to see you're doing 'everything you can' and of course in practice it mostly gets ignored, since 'dynamic strikes' don't got time for it. Of course!

Tree Bucket
Apr 1, 2016

R.I.P.idura leucophrys

nrook posted:

You sound like Churchill!



That's fascinating. Good find!

BernieLomax
May 29, 2002
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy84LnL_ghA

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Looks like the recent alleged chemical attack in Syria might be legit

https://twitter.com/tobiaschneider/status/1131841205040484352
https://twitter.com/tobiaschneider/status/1131850580618559489
https://twitter.com/tobiaschneider/status/1131856428094906368

I've been shown photographs of what's claimed to be the munition used, and it's absolutely identical to those used in Damascus in early 2017 and 2018. What we're trying to establish now is if the same pro-government groups who were fighting in Damascus are now fighting in the area near the latest CW attack.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Cool, does that mean we get the annual ‘Trump blows up a building outside of Damascus’ thing

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Based on the previous chlorine attacks on this scale (low casualty numbers and little video footage from the attack) I would say certainly not. The response to Douma and Khan Sheikhoun only happened because of the high casualty numbers, there had been multiple Sarin attacks in the weeks before Khan Sheikhoun, and multiple chlorine attacks in the weeks and months prior to Douma, but no-one gave a poo poo because only the people paying really close attention noticed. However, with Trump acting like he is at the moment he might respond in an attempt to get some good headlines and distract from all the domestic drama.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
https://twitter.com/ActingSecDef/status/1131968394037735424?s=19

Just keeping the peace.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Cat Mattress posted:

One word: refugees.



Generic reminders that in European languages, it's not the "Middle" East, it's the "Near" East.

Reminder that Europe is still dealing with the political repercussions of a migration crisis induced by American wars that seem like petty adventures compared to invading Iran.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

steinrokkan posted:

Reminder that Europe is still dealing with the political repercussions of a migration crisis induced by American wars that seem like petty adventures compared to invading Iran.

Yeah that was my point.

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Lol there are pro-privatisation ad campaigns being run on Saudi channels.
And its using the ancient and molded over arguments of efficiency, customer orientation and competetion.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Rigged Death Trap posted:

Lol there are pro-privatisation ad campaigns being run on Saudi channels.
And its using the ancient and molded over arguments of efficiency, customer orientation and competetion.

Privatization of what, exactly?

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Privatization of what, exactly?

And what kind of non-royal private sector is there, anyway?

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Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Privatization of what, exactly?

Healthcare, Utilities, government services.
importing the US system is what Ive garnered.

Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 13:09 on May 27, 2019

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