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Ardent Communist
Oct 17, 2010

ALLAH! MU'AMMAR! LIBYA WA BAS!
You know what, I'm starting to be kind of opposed to guillotines.

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Fashionable Jorts
Jan 18, 2010

Maybe if I'm busy it could keep me from you



Ardent Communist posted:

You know what, I'm starting to be kind of opposed to guillotines.

Sounds like you're asking to be Guillotine'd!

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Ardent Communist posted:

unions got hosed when they made them legal, because as conditions for making it legal they made them toothless, and made them financially solvent at the cost of alienating dumb workers who don't want to join unions by making them pay.
Bring back illegal unions, the only way to negotiate with capitalists is when they fear for their lives.

i think they were co-opted first because unions can't really be made toothless by law unless lovely leadership is allowing it

Ardent Communist
Oct 17, 2010

ALLAH! MU'AMMAR! LIBYA WA BAS!
Axes are far more portable, and what do we care about giving capitalists a quick and relatively painless death. The French could be more reasonable since capitalism was still relatively new, and they hadn't been subjected to years and years of capitalists ruining their lives and their world.

EDIT: I didn't anticipate the quick posting, it would have been more meaningful if this was the post directly after the other one.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?

infernal machines posted:

i'm not suggesting you're wrong, but identifying unions as an impediment to the modern labour movement is c-spam as gently caress

he's not wrong, at least 2 major unions ive worked with tell their membership to vote/donate to the liberal party. hell i would say a half to 75% of the union members i worked with at my last job are all hardline conservative voters

unions in canada arent really part of any labour movement anymore

Fashionable Jorts
Jan 18, 2010

Maybe if I'm busy it could keep me from you



Ardent Communist posted:

Axes are far more portable, and what do we care about giving capitalists a quick and relatively painless death. The French could be more reasonable since capitalism was still relatively new, and they hadn't been subjected to years and years of capitalists ruining their lives and their world.

EDIT: I didn't anticipate the quick posting, it would have been more meaningful if this was the post directly after the other one.

True, but the spectacle of wheeling out the big ol' guillotine has something pretty nice to it. Its a public event, bring the kids!

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Fashionable Jorts posted:

True, but the spectacle of wheeling out the big ol' guillotine has something pretty nice to it. Its a public event, bring the kids!

ordering guillotines from local blacksmiths is a nice boon to the local economy

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

DariusLikewise posted:

he's not wrong, at least 2 major unions ive worked with tell their membership to vote/donate to the liberal party. hell i would say a half to 75% of the union members i worked with at my last job are all hardline conservative voters

unions in canada arent really part of any labour movement anymore

The union boards I've worked with, at a local level at least, are very representative of their membership. For better or worse, they are incredibly democratic organizations. So if you find yourself at odds with the unions, I think it's a fair assumption that you may find yourself at odds with the workers.

I'm not saying they don't support the Liberals or that they're not risk averse, just that they are so because their members are.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
i.e. y'all are exactly the far left wackos the media suggests

Jehde
Apr 21, 2010

The quick and painless death wasn't the point of the guillotine, the efficiency and ability for a high throughput of bourgeois was the point. Sure you can hire an executioner to lift and drop an axe a bunch of times, but that's gonna get tiring. So just manufacture a machine that optimizes the process and saves the executioner's arms.

Ardent Communist
Oct 17, 2010

ALLAH! MU'AMMAR! LIBYA WA BAS!
What could be the difference between local union boards and national ones? "
There hasn't been a single time where union leadership was less radical than many of their workers" You, apparently.

Ardent Communist
Oct 17, 2010

ALLAH! MU'AMMAR! LIBYA WA BAS!

Jehde posted:

The quick and painless death wasn't the point of the guillotine, the efficiency and ability for a high throughput of bourgeois was the point. Sure you can hire an executioner to lift and drop an axe a bunch of times, but that's gonna get tiring. So just manufacture a machine that optimizes the process and saves the executioner's arms.
Surely we could find many people willing to do it though? I mean, Marx pointed out that capitalism is training their own grave-diggers, we can clearly organize a schedule so that the work is shared equally among all who want to do it.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Ardent Communist posted:

What could be the difference between local union boards and national ones? "
There hasn't been a single time where union leadership was less radical than many of their workers" You, apparently.

the national ones are selected differently, at best there's an additional layer of politics there, but broadly, yeah

EvidenceBasedQuack
Aug 15, 2015

A rock has no detectable opinion about gravity

DariusLikewise posted:

he's not wrong, at least 2 major unions ive worked with tell their membership to vote/donate to the liberal party. hell i would say a half to 75% of the union members i worked with at my last job are all hardline conservative voters

unions in canada arent really part of any labour movement anymore

Echoing this.

Most of my union's execs have the #RealChange red shirts/JT selfie as Facebook profile photos. It's a disgrace in light of their plans for targeted benefits pensions, Phoenix, climate policies, and collective bargaining.

My way experience at last year's federal NDP convention further molded my aversion to union centrist bullshit.

Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Tortured By Flan

Ardent Communist posted:

Axes are far more portable, and what do we care about giving capitalists a quick and relatively painless death. The French could be more reasonable since capitalism was still relatively new, and they hadn't been subjected to years and years of capitalists ruining their lives and their world.

EDIT: I didn't anticipate the quick posting, it would have been more meaningful if this was the post directly after the other one.

The machete is the true peoples weapon.

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

remember that time the Ontario teacher's union helped re-elect Kathleen Wynne's Liberal government with millions of dollars worth of third party advertising? also remember how they were rewarded for it in the subsequent election cycle with a Liberal reelection campaign that demonized unions and workers? (not that grade school teachers give a gently caress about striking TAs, but still, lol)

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
i remember them being immediately curb stomped by back to work legislation, for the second time, yeah

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes
Another feather in the crap of strategic voting

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

infernal machines posted:

i remember them being immediately curb stomped by back to work legislation, for the second time, yeah
drat I forgot about that bit lmao

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
Man so many ridings are gonna flip orange -> blue this fall including mine probably.

load up on abortions now I guess

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Canada's Path to Full Communism:

Step 1: Break the Unions

Step 2: Still working on this

Step 3: Collectivize the maple syrup industry

Step 4: Withering away of the state.

Step 5: Done

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
nationalize tim hortons

BGrifter
Mar 16, 2007

Winner of Something Awful PS5 thread's Posting Excellence Award June 2022

Congratulations!

vyelkin posted:

nationalize tim hortons

Guillotine everyone at Tim Hortons.

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

Fallen Hamprince posted:

Step 3: Collectivize the maple syrup industry

Already done in Quebec

Ardent Communist
Oct 17, 2010

ALLAH! MU'AMMAR! LIBYA WA BAS!
Maybe that's why the class struggle is so much more advanced in Quebec....maybe I've been going about this the wrong way!

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN

infernal machines posted:

The union boards I've worked with, at a local level at least, are very representative of their membership. For better or worse, they are incredibly democratic organizations. So if you find yourself at odds with the unions, I think it's a fair assumption that you may find yourself at odds with the workers.

I'm not saying they don't support the Liberals or that they're not risk averse, just that they are so because their members are.

Yes, and that risk aversion is much more consequential than the rudderless centrism of the NDP. If the labour unions actually used their resources more effectively they could more than match the current resources of the conservative movement.

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

let's check in with Jordan Peterson's left wing protégée, who is left wing by the way

https://twitter.com/NewWorldHominin/status/1130170367727685632

the podcast is hosted by Jean-François Gariépy who, if you don't keep up with the alt-right thread, is an open white supremacist from Québec who repeatedly tried to lure, gain custody over, marry and impregnate a severely mentally disabled teenager

Juul-Whip has issued a correction as of 07:13 on May 22, 2019

Another Bill
Sep 27, 2018

Born on the bayou
died in a cave
bbq and posting
is all I crave

Fallen Hamprince posted:

Canada's Path to Full Communism:

Step 1: Break the Unions

Step 2: Still working on this

Step 3: Collectivize the maple syrup industry

Step 4: Withering away of the state.

Step 5: Done

Revolutionary consciousness lies just under the veneer of polite society comrade. All that's needed is a vanguard to show them the way.

Now, how many copies of Workers World did you sell this month?

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?

vyelkin posted:

nationalize tim hortons

this but nationalize shoppers drug mart as well

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS

THC posted:

let's check in with Jordan Peterson's left wing protégée, who is left wing by the way


Of course she is she doesn't own a car!

smoke sumthin bitch
Dec 14, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
you can beboth left wing and a racist identitarian. dsouza exposed richard spencer as a full blown socialist

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

smoke sumthin bitch posted:

you can beboth left wing and a racist identitarian. dsouza exposed richard spencer as a full blown socialist

you could say hes some kind of national socialist, yes

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

incidentally this is the only kind of "socialist" that conservatives have historically been willing to work with

can't imagine why :iiam:

Juul-Whip has issued a correction as of 01:46 on May 23, 2019

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

incontinence 100
Dec 21, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Hey when you guys say 'nationalize' what you mean is arrest the entire c-suite and the board and disappear them 1960s Argentinian junta style right?

Entorwellian
Jun 30, 2006

Northern Flicker
Anna's Hummingbird

Sorry, but the people have spoken.




Love it

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?

incontinence 100 posted:

Hey when you guys say 'nationalize' what you mean is arrest the entire c-suite and the board and disappear them 1960s Argentinian junta style right?

i would imagine the communist state of canada we will need a way to distribute needs to the people and what better way than nationalizing all 7-11s and shoppers drug marts

cougar cub
Jun 28, 2004

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:

Peter's Drive-In has over 200 flavor combinations which can be used to throw at a politician, in case anybody here is in Calgary or Red Deer

soon to be in Edmonton - big location going up in an empty lot on Calgary Trail

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:

Since leaving Alberta the thing I miss the most is probably Burger Baron

quality is hit and miss from location to location which sucks

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


cougar cub posted:

soon to be in Edmonton - big location going up in an empty lot on Calgary Trail


quality is hit and miss from location to location which sucks

there's a reason for that.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/Will+Real+Burger+Baron+Please+Stand/8329346/story.html

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BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000


this is a problem that solves itself when their apartheidmobiles give them a semi-trailer haircut

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