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Aerofallosov
Oct 3, 2007

Friend to Fishes. Just keep swimming.
I wish I could find a shiny burmy. Mothim looks GORGEOUS. So far, I'm torn between mothim and vespiquen. I might swap water monkey for a relicanth or that pink clamperl evolution. There's so many neat pokemon I have yet to use! I just wish I could get a numel or camerupt outside of friend safari.

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Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

Flopsy posted:

I'm talking consistent competency. Not just the occasional one off before he hits the inevitable reset.

That would only lead to more filler forever rather than a better show. Since the writers aren’t willing to replace Ash or figure out how to pose a realistic challenge to what his skill level should be, the endless resets are the only option.

Crawfish
Dec 11, 2012



Flopsy posted:

Ey, does anybody want a shiny tapu fini? Just got one in the wonder trade so it's up for grabs with the rest.
What do you want for it?

Earthorn
Jul 18, 2012

thetoughestbean posted:

“Duck” is literally in the name

And Mr Mime are all male.

Crosscontaminant
Jan 18, 2007

Translation mistakes don't count.

Pentaro
May 5, 2013


They should implement that all girl Mr. Mimes should be automatically be renamed Mme. Mime

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog
Mr. Mime is clearly a stage persona, he can be played by female specimens no problem.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

The White Dragon posted:

it took over 4000 eggs to get my shiny honedge

fuckin hell

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
we're having fun in the sun (the Alolan sun)

omnibobb
Dec 3, 2005
Title text'd
1,114 soft resets to get my shiny Mewtwo.

Feels good man

Oyster
Nov 11, 2005

I GOT FLAT FEET JUST LIKE MY HERO MEGAMAN
Total Clam
Everyone bitches about the level curve in gen 2. And it's true, the level curve sucks, especially through Kanto.

I'm here to bitch about pokemon distribution.

See, gen 2 introduces two new types, dark and steel, one of the three or four efforts to curb rampant psychic abuse, especially since a new great psychic in Espeon was released.

The only dark type available before Kanto is Umbreon. Worse, two of the dark types, Murkrow and Houndour, are available at night on Route 7, the small route with one patch of grass between Saffron and Celadon. Murkrow has a 30% encounter rate in this one patch of grass at night, and 10% on the other routes he's found on west of Celadon. Houndour has a 5% encounter rate in this same patch of grass and only that patch of grass.The only others are Sneasel, just outside Mt Silver, and Tyranitar, with Larvitar in Mt Silver. Crystal at least fixes this some by putting Sneasel in Ice Path just before the 8th gym, but Yeesh.

Steel is at least slightly better off with early access to Magnemite, but Scizor and Steelix are more unfeasible due to difficult to access metal coat, Pineco out of rare trees, and Skarmory is later as well.

Moreover, there are plenty of instances like Remoraid available in one route just before Blackthorne city as a 5% encounter with the Super Rod, obtained way later in Kanto. I kind of expect that to happen with pokemon like Bagon, only available in one postgame room in 3rd gen, or in 6th gen when the selection was massive.

The only thing 2nd gen really has going for it is the story of Team Rocket trying to force evolution, which Lance must have done since all three of his Dragonites are below the level that Dragonair evolves.

Jade Mage
Jan 4, 2013

This is Canada. It snows nine months of the year, and hails the other three.

omnibobb posted:

1,114 soft resets to get my shiny Mewtwo.

Feels good man

939 for nihilego. Worth it...
Never again

Vandar
Sep 14, 2007

Isn't That Right, Chairman?



Oyster posted:

Everyone bitches about the level curve in gen 2. And it's true, the level curve sucks, especially through Kanto.

I'm here to bitch about pokemon distribution.

Not even just the new types. Pokémon distribution as a whole is skewed towards Gen I for a good portion of the game.

The first couple routes are littered with Pidgey, Ratatta, and Geodude, they give you early access to Ghost types but it’s Gastly with Misdreavus not appearing until way later, you have a Bellsprout tower and a Slowpoke dungeon, the gym leaders are very heavily weighed towards using Gen I stuff...

Most of Johto didn’t give me the ‘this is a whole region with whole new Pokemon’ vibe, it gave me a ‘hey here’s all the old stuff all over again with a couple bonus monsters’ vibe. Bleeeh.

Oyster
Nov 11, 2005

I GOT FLAT FEET JUST LIKE MY HERO MEGAMAN
Total Clam

Vandar posted:

Not even just the new types. Pokémon distribution as a whole is skewed towards Gen I for a good portion of the game.

The first couple routes are littered with Pidgey, Ratatta, and Geodude, they give you early access to Ghost types but it’s Gastly with Misdreavus not appearing until way later, you have a Bellsprout tower and a Slowpoke dungeon, the gym leaders are very heavily weighed towards using Gen I stuff...

Most of Johto didn’t give me the ‘this is a whole region with whole new Pokemon’ vibe, it gave me a ‘hey here’s all the old stuff all over again with a couple bonus monsters’ vibe. Bleeeh.

Yeah that's why I brought up remoraid's spot requiring the super rod. Absolutely bleeeh. I really enjoy that half the dark types are found in Kanto, like where were they 3 years prior?

Scholtz
Aug 24, 2007

Zorchin' some Flemoids

Y'all are talking about going crazy shiny hunting and I'm 22/37 of the way through catching all of the wormhole legendaries in Beast Balls.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Scholtz posted:

Y'all are talking about going crazy shiny hunting and I'm 22/37 of the way through catching all of the wormhole legendaries in Beast Balls.

how many do you use on average

Flopsy
Mar 4, 2013

Geostomp posted:

That would only lead to more filler forever rather than a better show. Since the writers aren’t willing to replace Ash or figure out how to pose a realistic challenge to what his skill level should be, the endless resets are the only option.

Oh I know and I have no real expectations here. Honestly this is just old musings on my part, I expect nothing these days,


Crawfish posted:

What do you want for it?

Anything you want to give away. You could give me a grubbin for example since I'm not actually looking for anything right now.

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

Oyster posted:

Yeah that's why I brought up remoraid's spot requiring the super rod. Absolutely bleeeh. I really enjoy that half the dark types are found in Kanto, like where were they 3 years prior?

It is Canon that literally every game is in a separate universe, so the Kanto you visit is ever so slightly different then the one from rby

And when I day game I mean your individual copy of gold silver is a different universe then mine

omnibobb
Dec 3, 2005
Title text'd

Jade Mage posted:

939 for nihilego. Worth it...
Never again

I got a sweet round rowlett in 8 eggs this weekend.

100 degrees Calcium
Jan 23, 2011



Yup. The link cable is actually a wormhole that connects two versions of any given region and allows trainers from each version to trade pokemon with each other.

Kite Pride Worldwide
Apr 20, 2009



https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randombattle-914505689

I'm sorry

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012
I've just gotten to the Battle Pyramid. Remember when I said that I wasn't aware of a villain in any continuity whose plans involved Ho-Oh? Turns out I was wrong: the villain is Ash himself, while possessed by the ghost of the King of Pokelantis. I guess you could consider it a Yu-Gi-Oh parody, but so far the concept is being played straight.

I can't help but note that even before he's possessed, Ash's behavior in this episode is unusually foolish, if not outright amoral. He acted like Lawrence III.

Edit: Another one for the stock plots list: "A Pokemon steals Ash's hat or badges."

Edit 2: 270 Coordinators at the Kanto Grand Festival. And Lillian doesn't correct Jessie when she claims that all the competitors have 5 Ribbons each. That's 1350 Contests. Though Max's line about "the best Coordinators in the world" could imply that they're not all from Kanto Contests.

Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 00:52 on May 23, 2019

Earthorn
Jul 18, 2012

Crosscontaminant posted:

Translation mistakes don't count.

The Japanese word for platypus incorporates the word for duck (I think it is duck-beak). Therefore, a platypus is a duck.

Mraagvpeine
Nov 4, 2014

I won this avatar on a technicality this thick.

Oyster posted:

The only thing 2nd gen really has going for it is the story of Team Rocket trying to force evolution, which Lance must have done since all three of his Dragonites are below the level that Dragonair evolves.

My headcanon when I was a kid was that Lance wasn't training his Pokemon since he's champion/elite 4, they got lazy, and their levels slipped down because of that.

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012

Mraagvpeine posted:

My headcanon when I was a kid was that Lance wasn't training his Pokemon since he's champion/elite 4, they got lazy, and their levels slipped down because of that.

I always assumed it was something like that too.

Mraagvpeine
Nov 4, 2014

I won this avatar on a technicality this thick.
I doubt they would ever do such a mechanic, but I imagined a system where leaving a Pokemon in the box for too long caused them to become out of shape and lazy. They would lose a maximum of 20 levels and attacks work 50% of the time and you either have to whip them back to shape yourself with much anguish and yelling at them or put them in daycare/a specialist to fix them.

Nasgate
Jun 7, 2011

Mraagvpeine posted:

I doubt they would ever do such a mechanic, but I imagined a system where leaving a Pokemon in the box for too long caused them to become out of shape and lazy. They would lose a maximum of 20 levels and attacks work 50% of the time and you either have to whip them back to shape yourself with much anguish and yelling at them or put them in daycare/a specialist to fix them.

Tbh, in all my years of playing, this could've been the case and I wouldn't have known.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

Mraagvpeine posted:

I doubt they would ever do such a mechanic, but I imagined a system where leaving a Pokemon in the box for too long caused them to become out of shape and lazy. They would lose a maximum of 20 levels and attacks work 50% of the time and you either have to whip them back to shape yourself with much anguish and yelling at them or put them in daycare/a specialist to fix them.

That only encourages you to ignore your boxed teammates more since they’re not only weak, but lazy slobs.

It is hilarious to imagine that almost every early game Bug and mammal are sitting around, eating frosting from a ttub and sobbing when the cursor of the PC yet again passes them by.

Geostomp fucked around with this message at 05:17 on May 23, 2019

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!
In the anime they're just at the professor's lab aren't they?

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
That's why I liked the beans farm. I'm not forgetting you guys, I appreciate how much beans you're getting.

Ever Disappointing
May 4, 2004

The bean farm, also known as the place where my several hundred Magikarp splash around for a while until I inevitably release them all to make room for more Magikarp

dungeon cousin
Nov 26, 2012

woop woop
loop loop
My headcanon is that evolution levels aren't the same for everyone. Some trainers have a stronger affinity towards certain Pokemon and have an easier time raising them than other people.

Scholtz
Aug 24, 2007

Zorchin' some Flemoids

indigi posted:

how many do you use on average

Actually not that many. Maybe only 20-30? A lot of the mons have low pp moves so they end up struggling after a bit.

Ignite Memories
Feb 27, 2005

Lol you're crazy dude it's not even a very good looking ball

Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS

https://mobile.twitter.com/SerebiiNet/status/1131473799839404032

Nasgate
Jun 7, 2011
Rip, hope the base game shirts are good.

Chill Penguin
Jan 10, 2004

you know korky buchek?
I would never wear a graphic T in-game anyway.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
Shiny Buzzwole is ugly af. how do they gently caress up alternate color schemes so badly

Aristide
Sep 2, 2011

Mysterious Cat Country

Too bad, it was a nifty design. I wonder why they decided to remove the idea completely instead of giving the slot to a runner-up though?

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Farecoal
Oct 15, 2011

There he go
Having just watched the documentary series "Timegate Traveler", I am now very suspicious of all you Bug-type sympathizers, or should I say... collaborators?

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