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Rudoku
Jun 15, 2003

Damn I need a drink...


Waterfall of Salt posted:

Let's take a look at Ash's league results and what caused them.

Kalos: Ash narrowly loses to character introduced fighting champions and elite four members, they immediately team up in the following arc and there Ash has the upper hand. That arc itself is a nice send-off to "classic-style" Pokémon.

And no one gave a single gently caress about it, because that outcome killed the show immediately.

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Flopsy
Mar 4, 2013

Rudoku posted:

And no one gave a single gently caress about it, because that outcome killed the show immediately.

Truth ^^^^^^

oddium
Feb 21, 2006

end of the 4.5 tatami age

british bake off is so good

Mraagvpeine
Nov 4, 2014

I won this avatar on a technicality this thick.
When I heard about Tobias and his deal, I wondered about the other Pokemon he had. It seemed like he had a theme of Legendary duos, so naturally I assumed he had Lugia or Ho-oh.

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012
I'm even more interested in the future adventures of Max and Ralts now that Max has revealed that he wants to become a Gym Leader. Does he plan to defeat a region's Gyms using just Psychic-types? Or will he just be the Misty to someone else's Ash? Will Ken and Mary of the Pokemon Mystery Club be his equivalent of the Team Rocket trio, always trying to steal his Psychic-type Pokemon for science? We'll most likely never find out, but it's fun to imagine.

He never actually specifies that he plans to be a Psychic-type Gym Leader, but between the Ralts, his friendship with two different Psychic-type Legendaries, and his nerdy personality, it seems like a reasonable assumption.

Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 02:09 on May 24, 2019

Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

Please enumerate the fifty best episodes of the anime, plus up to fifty additional ones that establish necessary context for the good ones.

Eox
Jun 20, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
1-50: Go West, Young Meowth

Supplemental materials: Go West, Young Meowth

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012

Bongo Bill posted:

Please enumerate the fifty best episodes of the anime, plus up to fifty additional ones that establish necessary context for the good ones.

I already made a list of the best 10 (and worst 10) Indigo League episodes earlier in this thread. I guess I might as well make similar lists for Orange, Johto, Hoenn, and Battle Frontier soon (but only a top and bottom 5 for Orange and BF because they're short).

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

Silver2195 posted:

He never actually specifies that he plans to be a Psychic-type Gym Leader, but between the Ralts, his friendship with two different Psychic-type Legendaries, and his nerdy personality, it seems like a reasonable assumption.

honestly i never really saw psychic type trainers as nerds, they're more like snake oil sages than anything else. nerds become electric type specialists

Rudoku
Jun 15, 2003

Damn I need a drink...


Eox posted:

1-50: Go West, Young Meowth

Supplemental materials: Go West, Young Meowth

Sneak the Litten/Stoutland saga in that, too. One has an Alolan Persian set a house on fire on it's free time because it's a dick.

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012

The White Dragon posted:

honestly i never really saw psychic type trainers as nerds, they're more like snake oil sages than anything else. nerds become electric type specialists

I'd say Lucian of the Sinnoh Elite Four is a nerd.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?

Bongo Bill posted:

Please enumerate the fifty best episodes of the anime, plus up to fifty additional ones that establish necessary context for the good ones.

Any given 50 from Sun and Moon that are not arc enders or episode 19. Specially the episodes where the pokemon are doing stuff on their own.

Flopsy posted:

I couldn't tell you if you paid me what the hell anime writers are even doing anymore especially with the movies making new continuities unto themselves. And of course Ash still has to be the main character even in the reboots. Hell why wouldn't he be? It's like, no one was asking for any of this, there was literally no demand. I guess I'm just baffled as to what angle they're going for here. Clearly they think Ash and Pikachu are the money makers but they can't fathom what to do with them. It's getting more surreal as time goes on and the anime's hitting marvel comic book levels of narrative with it's: New timeline/alternate universe/Hey lets remake the first movie in 3-D and make Mewtwo's armor ten times shittier! themes. Seriously the poor bastard has a peacock tail of katanas coming out his rear end. Good god LMAO :magical:

I legit think that the movies for Gen 7 are an attempt at figuring out what to actually do with movies going forward. Remake arcs, remake a whole movie but in another medium, or do a fully original feature-length story with gorgeous animation, new writers and directors that explicitly avoid the common complaints of all previous movies and overall have tight themeing and characters.

I'm gonna be so disappointed when it turns out they'll just try and do Johto in CG Movie format next. :sigh:

Crosspeice
Aug 9, 2013

Where No Togepi Has Gone Before is batshit insane and I love it so. It's also the episode where Pikachu is confirmed male, so it's very important to the overall story.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
gently caress it, here's a random 10 of Sun and Moon that are super nice:

007 - That's why Litten is a Scamp. Fun little introduction to Litten, good goofs, good heart.

016 - They Might Not Be Giants! The good poo poo: an episode where Popplio and Rowlett are the protagonists and the humans mostly are offscreen searching for them. Continues Litten's story and Popplio and Rowlett have excellent chemistry.

021 - A Journey Ends, Another Begins. Litten is captured. Stuff happens.

024 - Alolan Open House! Ash's mom comes to visit and Ash has an oral presentation! This one humanizes Ash to a degree I love. Anyone can relate to trying to do an oral presentation at school and for whatever reason not feeling capable of it.

042/043 - Alola, Kanto! and When Regions Collide! The class goes to Kanto to visit! The whole class has good goofs, specially Kiawe. Lots of little nostalgia nods, but mostly good-rear end goofs and some of the best animation in the show. Second episode is a battle sakuga fest.

059 - Tasting The Bitter With The Sweet! How Lana and Mallow became friends, with Drampa. It is extremely adorable.

064 - Satoshi and Passimian! A Touchdown of Friendship!! Banned episode because Ash dresses up as a passimian, including face paint. Beyond that, it's a very, very good showcase of Ash being excited about the mere idea of Pokemon, and a good ol' "team of losers are trained up to win the big game" story.

073 - Why Not Give Me A Z Ring?! The third or fourth episode of Team Rocket being competent and pulling off being protagonists while being dumb evildoers.

079 - Showering The World With Love! The class learns about the adorable Minior.

084 - The Shape of Love to Come! Ash and Poipole meet Mina and get excited about painting. This one includes my favorite Ash line in the whole show.

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo
I don't know poo poo about the anime but Best Mom Bewear punching the gently caress outta the creepy white lady pokemon to save Team Rocket has gotta be up there for greatest things that ever happened in the series.

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.



I'm feeling like playing TCG online after a few years. What theme deck should I get?

Flopsy
Mar 4, 2013

Dias posted:

I don't know poo poo about the anime but Best Mom Bewear punching the gently caress outta the creepy white lady pokemon to save Team Rocket has gotta be up there for greatest things that ever happened in the series.

Mama Bewear wailing on Pheromosa was indeed legit. Wish they had more scenes like that.

ArmyOfMidgets posted:


I legit think that the movies for Gen 7 are an attempt at figuring out what to actually do with movies going forward. Remake arcs, remake a whole movie but in another medium, or do a fully original feature-length story with gorgeous animation, new writers and directors that explicitly avoid the common complaints of all previous movies and overall have tight themeing and characters.



I want that last one so bad it's painful. For the love of God just pull a Detective Pikachu and do a movie with a new protagonist. Hell make it a well known character at this point it'll be fine. It's like they're so close to realizing why they're losing money but lose their grasp of it at the last second.

Farecoal
Oct 15, 2011

There he go
Brock's Breeders

Edit: These are pretty cute :3:

https://www.polygon.com/2019/5/21/18634054/rymesona-detective-pikachu-pokemon-art

Farecoal fucked around with this message at 05:03 on May 24, 2019

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?

Flopsy posted:

Mama Bewear wailing on Pheromosa was indeed legit. Wish they had more scenes like that.



I want that last one so bad it's painful. For the love of God just pull a Detective Pikachu and do a movie with a new protagonist. Hell make it a well known character at this point it'll be fine. It's like they're so close to realizing why they're losing money but lose their grasp of it at the last second.

That last one doesn't even need a new protagonist, Ash was great in Power of Us, but he needs to work as an enabler to a colorful cast. Just let new people tell stories in pokemon and do more movies like Power of Us.
But the tragic part is that the money difference probably isnt that great. Though im expecting M22 to do bad compared to M21 and specially Detective Pikachu.

BattleCattle
May 11, 2014

A good johto episode is Ignorance is Blissey, where Jesse goes to a chansey school for chanseys.

Alxprit
Feb 7, 2015

<click> <click> What is it with this dancing?! Bouncing around like fools... I would have thought my own kind at least would understand the seriousness of our Adventurer's Guild!

BattleCattle posted:

A good johto episode is Ignorance is Blissey, where Jesse goes to a chansey school for chanseys.

Chansey!
Jessie!

BlazetheInferno
Jun 6, 2015
One of my favorite Team Rocket-centric episodes, I forget when it is, but James' Chimecho gets sick when they happen to be near some relatives of his he's actually fond of. So fond of, in fact, that he makes Jessie and Meowth promise to actually behave and not do anything bad so that he can hide the fact that he's with a criminal organization while they're there.

Naturally, they break their word, and, trying to go behind James' back, try to steal some of the Pokemon hanging out on the premises of James' Nanny and Pop-pop. James flips the gently caress out and actually sides with Ash in battle against Jessie and Meowth. Holy poo poo. Dude shows more backbone in that one episode than almost the entire rest of the series combined.

BattleCattle
May 11, 2014

Shut up, Brock.

edit: I’ve been saying that a lot lately.

BattleCattle fucked around with this message at 06:15 on May 24, 2019

Cipher Pol 9
Oct 9, 2006


ArmyOfMidgets posted:

gently caress it, here's a random 10 of Sun and Moon that are super nice:

084 - The Shape of Love to Come! Ash and Poipole meet Mina and get excited about painting. This one includes my favorite Ash line in the whole show.
Post the line!

Flopsy
Mar 4, 2013

BlazetheInferno posted:

One of my favorite Team Rocket-centric episodes, I forget when it is, but James' Chimecho gets sick when they happen to be near some relatives of his he's actually fond of. So fond of, in fact, that he makes Jessie and Meowth promise to actually behave and not do anything bad so that he can hide the fact that he's with a criminal organization while they're there.

Naturally, they break their word, and, trying to go behind James' back, try to steal some of the Pokemon hanging out on the premises of James' Nanny and Pop-pop. James flips the gently caress out and actually sides with Ash in battle against Jessie and Meowth. Holy poo poo. Dude shows more backbone in that one episode than almost the entire rest of the series combined.

What the gently caress was wrong with them? Seriously outside of it being a dick move they're blowing their cover. I know they're supposed to be dumb an' all but holy poo poo.

BlazetheInferno
Jun 6, 2015

Flopsy posted:

What the gently caress was wrong with them? Seriously outside of it being a dick move they're blowing their cover. I know they're supposed to be dumb an' all but holy poo poo.

I mean, they WERE trying to do it in secret, sneakily and all that. But really, it's just the standard Meowth/Jessie greed that tends to ruin everything they attempt.

Saoshyant
Oct 26, 2010

:hmmorks: :orks:


SeANMcBAY posted:

I'm feeling like playing TCG online after a few years. What theme deck should I get?

The Charizard one is so broken you can win basically against any other deck even without knowing what you're doing. Otherwise, the new Mewtwo deck is pretty cool but requires you to figure out how to setup your Incinearoar and Darmatian while constantly Welding fire energy all over the place. The Zeraora deck isn't bad either if you are lucky enough to get Magnezone up early.

BattleCattle
May 11, 2014

Flopsy posted:

What the gently caress was wrong with them? Seriously outside of it being a dick move they're blowing their cover. I know they're supposed to be dumb an' all but holy poo poo.

They probably heard the words “prepare” and “trouble” and started getting the coke shakes.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?

Cipher Pol 9 posted:

Post the line!



Mina: I call this one, A Scene of Family
Ash: Family... My Alolan Family!

It just warms my heart too much. :3:

Vinylshadow
Mar 20, 2017

Mraagvpeine posted:

When I heard about Tobias and his deal, I wondered about the other Pokemon he had. It seemed like he had a theme of Legendary duos, so naturally I assumed he had Lugia or Ho-oh.

I suspect he only had legendary pokemon that had multiples of themselves running around - and yes, I'm aware that there's multiple Lugia, but I doubt he has any Trio Masters (Lugia, Ho-Oh, Rayquaza)

Probably a Heatran, Regi, Legendary Bird, and a Bidoof

less laughter
May 7, 2012

Accelerock & Roll
My favorite trio master is the left Dodrio head

Followed by the right Hydreigon paw

Nasgate
Jun 7, 2011

Vinylshadow posted:

I suspect he only had legendary pokemon that had multiples of themselves running around - and yes, I'm aware that there's multiple Lugia, but I doubt he has any Trio Masters (Lugia, Ho-Oh, Rayquaza)

Probably a Heatran, Regi, Legendary Bird, and a Bidoof

I agree with bidoof because not having watched the anime, he sounds like a casual players endgame team.

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




If Ash didn't try to battle and capture Arceus, Pokemon god of creation, the entire anime should be considered a failure.

BattleCattle
May 11, 2014

ArmyOfMidgets posted:



Mina: I call this one, A Scene of Family
Ash: Family... My Alolan Family!

It just warms my heart too much. :3:

Ohana!

Charlie Bobson
Dec 28, 2013
wait you can just watch every episode of pokemon for free without ads on the pokemon website

what the gently caress

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog

Charlie Bobson posted:

wait you can just watch every episode of pokemon for free without ads on the pokemon website

what the gently caress

They really should pay you for it.

Flopsy
Mar 4, 2013

BattleCattle posted:

They probably heard the words “prepare” and “trouble” and started getting the coke shakes.

That's about what i'm guessing.

BlazetheInferno posted:

I mean, they WERE trying to do it in secret, sneakily and all that. But really, it's just the standard Meowth/Jessie greed that tends to ruin everything they attempt.

It's schtick like this that makes the episodes where they're trying to sell them as sympathetic fall flat. That isn't business as usual that's loving over their friend in his time of need.

Flopsy fucked around with this message at 20:21 on May 24, 2019

Nth Doctor
Sep 7, 2010

Darkrai used Dream Eater!
It's super effective!


Nth Doctor posted:

:havlat: :havlat: :havlat: SHINY TAPU FINI HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED :havlat: :havlat: :havlat:

https://3ds.pokemon-gl.com/information/986a6896-e2ad-4c7c-b050-a6984d597e93

The May International Challenge's participation award is the last of the shiny Tapus to get released. Team registration begins on May 16th. Details in the link above.

Hey everyone, don't forget that the International Challenge May Online Competition began yesterday and runs through this weekend (more or less). You need to have pre registered and if you get your 3 battles in, you get a shiny Tapu Fini. I finished my battles up today and was floored by how well I did: 1 for 6. Take that people who say never use your main quest team for special battle stuff!

less laughter
May 7, 2012

Accelerock & Roll

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bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

What’s funny is after Tobias Ash’s next big loss was to an idiot kid dumber than him, who didn’t even bring a full team. Who then goes on to get almost swept to the eventual champion, a guy who uses nothing but Eeveelutions

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