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PneumonicBook
Sep 26, 2007

Do you like our owl?



Ultra Carp

King of Bees posted:

Like I'm really proud and happy when a sailor makes chief but if that's the pinnacle of your life, whoah boy. Can you imagine a Capt putting on a sticker and wearing a shirt and getting a tattoo? Or a Lcdr? Or whatever?

I work with a lot of people who probably unironically believe the best thing they ever did was put on some anchors.

About two years into my DoD gig I got 100% through nepotism we moved from trailers into an actual building. All the retired chiefs petitioned hard to get assigned parking, so the parking right outside was GS-12 and above and GS 11 and below got a lot down a hill. Well it turns out most of the retired Chiefs are 11s or lower, so they all went into the Commander's office to persuade him that the parking should be ordered by PRIOR NAVY RANK. Parking is now on a first come basis.

Lots of retired Chief's like to put Retired Chief/Senior Chief/Master Chief on their signature lines, as if a single one of us cares.

If one of them comes into my office to talk about an issue they almost always segue into some loving dumbass sea story that I don't care about.

If you're still in (lol) and you think Chiefs are bad now, I daresay they're worse after retirement.

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Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

SpaceSDoorGunner posted:

gently caress your education btw. Lol @ anyone who reenlisted recently.

TA has always been a roll of the dice anyway.

Recruiter: Join the Navy! In addition to the GI Bill, you also get tuition assistance so if you're really motivated, you can get a start on a degree even while you're in!

Oh, here are your orders to FDNF. You'll be working in a place with no connectivity for online classes and you're doing 18 hour days anyway guess you should have gotten shore orders, chump.

bengy81
May 8, 2010

PneumonicBook posted:

I work with a lot of people who probably unironically believe the best thing they ever did was put on some anchors.

About two years into my DoD gig I got 100% through nepotism we moved from trailers into an actual building. All the retired chiefs petitioned hard to get assigned parking, so the parking right outside was GS-12 and above and GS 11 and below got a lot down a hill. Well it turns out most of the retired Chiefs are 11s or lower, so they all went into the Commander's office to persuade him that the parking should be ordered by PRIOR NAVY RANK. Parking is now on a first come basis.

Lots of retired Chief's like to put Retired Chief/Senior Chief/Master Chief on their signature lines, as if a single one of us cares.

If one of them comes into my office to talk about an issue they almost always segue into some loving dumbass sea story that I don't care about.

If you're still in (lol) and you think Chiefs are bad now, I daresay they're worse after retirement.

I've learned that "retired SNCO" is not a trait you want your boss to have.

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".

M_Gargantua posted:

Judging by the quality of all the other people pursuing bachelors in engineering at the "top tier prestigious engineering research institution" that I'm at we're about eight generations away from the holiness techpriest engineers. Nobody is being taught useful skills or knowledge.

This may only be true on the electrical side of things. Maybe the mechanical world is more grounded in reality.

Engineering is all theory, engineering technologists would be applied but those are getting rare since everyone wants engineers. My school has engineers doing a lot of applied but the EE class I'm taking has been all theory I will never even think about cause technology is so far ahead. I plan on ignoring the class and playing around with the software on my own now.

Dingleberry
Aug 21, 2011

PneumonicBook posted:

I work with a lot of people who probably unironically believe the best thing they ever did was put on some anchors.

About two years into my DoD gig I got 100% through nepotism we moved from trailers into an actual building. All the retired chiefs petitioned hard to get assigned parking, so the parking right outside was GS-12 and above and GS 11 and below got a lot down a hill. Well it turns out most of the retired Chiefs are 11s or lower, so they all went into the Commander's office to persuade him that the parking should be ordered by PRIOR NAVY RANK. Parking is now on a first come basis.

Lots of retired Chief's like to put Retired Chief/Senior Chief/Master Chief on their signature lines, as if a single one of us cares.

If one of them comes into my office to talk about an issue they almost always segue into some loving dumbass sea story that I don't care about.

If you're still in (lol) and you think Chiefs are bad now, I daresay they're worse after retirement.

I always thought the anchors meant that they would hinder any movement, and the song “anchors aweigh” was a secret dig at the chiefs in that in order to “get underway” and accomplish anything the arresting effect of the anchors must be overcome.

Dingleberry fucked around with this message at 13:29 on May 23, 2019

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


*cough* Aweight *cough*

Dingleberry
Aug 21, 2011

Nick Soapdish posted:

*cough* Aweight *cough*

Oops

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



Is that a jab at fat chiefs? Just checking, because it is actually anchor's aweigh.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
The cruise ship I was on would weigh anchor and sail from this southern France port right around the time the show started. Since the thruster compartment was right under the orchestra pit, and the chain locker went right through the backstage changing rooms, we’d disrupt the poo poo out of the show whenever we were running late.

I tried to convince the orchestra to start playing anchors aweigh when they saw me and my gang run through the balcony on our way to the mooring deck, but alas, they had sticks up their asses.

shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

Fun Shoe
Was working on a cruise ship cool, not a lot of opportunity to do it for Americans really.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
Depends. Young, single and carefree? Go for it.

Otherwise no, it sucks, don’t do it.

vulturesrow
Sep 25, 2011

Always gotta pay it forward.

PneumonicBook posted:

I work with a lot of people who probably unironically believe the best thing they ever did was put on some anchors.

About two years into my DoD gig I got 100% through nepotism we moved from trailers into an actual building. All the retired chiefs petitioned hard to get assigned parking, so the parking right outside was GS-12 and above and GS 11 and below got a lot down a hill. Well it turns out most of the retired Chiefs are 11s or lower, so they all went into the Commander's office to persuade him that the parking should be ordered by PRIOR NAVY RANK. Parking is now on a first come basis.

Lots of retired Chief's like to put Retired Chief/Senior Chief/Master Chief on their signature lines, as if a single one of us cares.

If one of them comes into my office to talk about an issue they almost always segue into some loving dumbass sea story that I don't care about.

If you're still in (lol) and you think Chiefs are bad now, I daresay they're worse after retirement.

Kind of sort of related story about parking. For those that don't know, usually the squadron CO/XO parking spots are designated as whatever the squadron call sign +1 or 2, ie "Bumblefuck 1" and"Bumblefuck 2" respectively. We had a CMC, former COB type, try to convince them that the CMC spot should be Bumblefuck 3. Um no, you're not 3rd in the CoC you moron (although he acted like he was in fact the third in the CoC). Incidentally, in my 20 years, I only ever yelled at 3 enlisted Sailors. He was one of them.

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".

shovelbum posted:

Was working on a cruise ship cool, not a lot of opportunity to do it for Americans really.

Ditch the lady friend and get on the Pride, they have jobs up all the time. My friends loved it but decided they needed to stop sailing on a cruise ship if they wanted to get married or something. Also, you have to shave.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
Just label the spot "Papa Bear" and call it a day.

It works on way more levels.

piL
Sep 20, 2007
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lightpole posted:

Engineering is all theory, engineering technologists would be applied but those are getting rare since everyone wants engineers. My school has engineers doing a lot of applied but the EE class I'm taking has been all theory I will never even think about cause technology is so far ahead. I plan on ignoring the class and playing around with the software on my own now.

At some point, we might end up prizing a specialist undergraduate or graduate degree that comes full circle and is based around 'integrating theory and practice' because of the generational effect of academic engineers teaching academic engineers.

King of Bees
Dec 28, 2012
Gravy Boat 2k

vulturesrow posted:

Kind of sort of related story about parking. For those that don't know, usually the squadron CO/XO parking spots are designated as whatever the squadron call sign +1 or 2, ie "Bumblefuck 1" and"Bumblefuck 2" respectively. We had a CMC, former COB type, try to convince them that the CMC spot should be Bumblefuck 3. Um no, you're not 3rd in the CoC you moron (although he acted like he was in fact the third in the CoC). Incidentally, in my 20 years, I only ever yelled at 3 enlisted Sailors. He was one of them.

Honestly and unfortunately with too many of them it isn't a "Wow, I'm proud and humble to have achieved this level of responsibility and I'll do the best I can to make sure the sailors under me are given the best support I can possibly give them." It's more like "gently caress how do I keep the CO happy and keep my perks." My biggest problem with the Chiefs Mess is we are too scared to say no when we need to.

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".

piL posted:

At some point, we might end up prizing a specialist undergraduate or graduate degree that comes full circle and is based around 'integrating theory and practice' because of the generational effect of academic engineers teaching academic engineers.

Gonna be ten steps ahead of you when I graduate with my MS in Engineering Management in 3 weeks.

piL
Sep 20, 2007
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lightpole posted:

Gonna be ten steps ahead of you when I graduate with my MS in Engineering Management in 3 weeks.

Eh, I mean in fifty to a hundred years. You're going to be forced to demonstrate your usefulness. Hopefully your degree earning experience prepared you.

King of Bees
Dec 28, 2012
Gravy Boat 2k
I will say to anyone who becomes a chief remember this for initiation: "Wow, I'm proud and humble to have achieved this level of responsibility and I'll do the best I can to make sure the sailors under me are given the best support I can possibly give them." And never loving forget it. Because it's really easy to forget and start slapping pirate stickers on your truck. Be one of the good ones.

King of Bees
Dec 28, 2012
Gravy Boat 2k
The closer I get to retire the more.misty I am.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


You been drinkin chief?

shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

Fun Shoe
Wtf is up with the pirate sticker drama

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

King of Bees posted:

Honestly and unfortunately with too many of them it isn't a "Wow, I'm proud and humble to have achieved this level of responsibility and I'll do the best I can to make sure the sailors under me are given the best support I can possibly give them." It's more like "gently caress how do I keep the CO happy and keep my perks." My biggest problem with the Chiefs Mess is we are too scared to say no when we need to.

FYI this is a problem at every officer level as well.

King of Bees
Dec 28, 2012
Gravy Boat 2k

LingcodKilla posted:

You been drinkin chief?

Yeah. Ive been taking some leave

Godholio posted:

FYI this is a problem at every officer level as well.

I'm so ready to retire

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
The conduct of the CPOs and lack of respect I have for them as a whole is a huge reason I am not pursuing a career in the Navy. Namaste.

PneumonicBook
Sep 26, 2007

Do you like our owl?



Ultra Carp

maffew buildings posted:

The conduct of the CPOs and lack of respect I have for them as a whole is a huge reason I am not pursuing a career in the Navy. Namaste.

And yet you participate in the Navy. Curious.

King of Bees
Dec 28, 2012
Gravy Boat 2k

maffew buildings posted:

The conduct of the CPOs and lack of respect I have for them as a whole is a huge reason I am not pursuing a career in the Navy. Namaste.

We're not all bad my dude. I'd say it's a 50/50 shot. Maybe you could be one of the.good 50.

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
No thanks, not in to pirate stickers

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

shovelbum posted:

Wtf is up with the pirate sticker drama

A group of people who won't stop puffing out their guts chests about how they're the backbone of the world's finest Navy also like to pretend they're badass pirates with skulls and poo poo because the culture is fundamentally stupid.

Dingleberry
Aug 21, 2011
What’s super-funny is witnessing any part of their “initiation” (hazing) where they; Bury their old uniforms in a mock graveyard - Fill sandbags and stack them then un-stack them - Do PT a bunch - the chiefs “running” the “initiation” park RV’s near the site of this as its all so exhausting for them so they need a break area apparently - oh, and making the initiates do thing like pick them up breakfast to go from diners (that are like 30 miles away).

And at the end, they all cry and hug each other and congratulate each other in a way not all that unlike the weirdness of the old Navy Battle Stations evolution at RTC. “yay, we did a bunch of easy, mediocre things but sleep dep makes it all seem so emotional and important!”

And to top it all off its strictly voluntary, but to my understanding if you skip the initiation you aren’t considered a real chief and you’ll never go past E-7... Like some secret blacklist IDK.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


I got to tie two reservist chief selects together because they forgot how to tie their knots. I didn’t ask why they needed to be tied together.

Kawasaki Nun
Jul 16, 2001

by Reene

Dingleberry posted:

What’s super-funny is witnessing any part of their “initiation” (hazing) where they; Bury their old uniforms in a mock graveyard - Fill sandbags and stack them then un-stack them - Do PT a bunch - the chiefs “running” the “initiation” park RV’s near the site of this as its all so exhausting for them so they need a break area apparently - oh, and making the initiates do thing like pick them up breakfast to go from diners (that are like 30 miles away).

And at the end, they all cry and hug each other and congratulate each other in a way not all that unlike the weirdness of the old Navy Battle Stations evolution at RTC. “yay, we did a bunch of easy, mediocre things but sleep dep makes it all seem so emotional and important!”

And to top it all off its strictly voluntary, but to my understanding if you skip the initiation you aren’t considered a real chief and you’ll never go past E-7... Like some secret blacklist IDK.

Going from "stupid" to "very stupid" is pretty emotional. It's not all sleep deprivation

Laranzu
Jan 18, 2002

Dingleberry posted:

What’s super-funny is witnessing any part of their “initiation” (hazing) where they; Bury their old uniforms in a mock graveyard - Fill sandbags and stack them then un-stack them - Do PT a bunch - the chiefs “running” the “initiation” park RV’s near the site of this as its all so exhausting for them so they need a break area apparently - oh, and making the initiates do thing like pick them up breakfast to go from diners (that are like 30 miles away).

And at the end, they all cry and hug each other and congratulate each other in a way not all that unlike the weirdness of the old Navy Battle Stations evolution at RTC. “yay, we did a bunch of easy, mediocre things but sleep dep makes it all seem so emotional and important!”

And to top it all off its strictly voluntary, but to my understanding if you skip the initiation you aren’t considered a real chief and you’ll never go past E-7... Like some secret blacklist IDK.

My friend, CPO365 Phase 2 isn't voluntary anymore. It's the backbone of naval snco training.

Dingleberry
Aug 21, 2011

LingcodKilla posted:

I got to tie two reservist chief selects together because they forgot how to tie their knots. I didn’t ask why they needed to be tied together.

Was it a length of line with several stopper knots on each side? Inserted anally? A la the Wall Street sex party scene from “Requiem For A Dream”?

shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

Fun Shoe

Dingleberry posted:

Was it a length of line with several stopper knots on each side? Inserted anally? A la the Wall Street sex party scene from “Requiem For A Dream”?

rear end to rear end!!

rear end TO rear end!!!

Time Crisis Actor
Apr 28, 2002

by Hand Knit
wow the navy sounds really cool!!!!!!!!!!

Syrian Lannister
Aug 25, 2007

Oh, did I kill him too?
I've been a very busy little man.


Sugartime Jones
Stolen from the coldwar thread

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

Sub people are weird

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

SpaceSDoorGunner posted:

Sub people are weird

Don't kinkshame.

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Vriess
Apr 30, 2013

Select the items of interest in the scene.

Returned with Honor.

Stultus Maximus posted:

A group of people who won't stop puffing out their guts chests about how they're the backbone of the world's finest Navy also like to pretend they're badass pirates with skulls and poo poo because the culture is fundamentally stupid.

Skulls. That's always the symbol for good people who should be trusted with authority.

Skulls.

:yohoho:

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