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Blast of Confetti
Apr 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
i hope that by the time 8.0 rolls around cutscene hyur has a mountain man beard

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bigmandan
Sep 11, 2001

lol internet
College Slice


:catdrugs:


The benchmark ran with black borders on the sides and couldn't find a way to change it. If it could render fully, I wonder how much that would affect the score. Maybe 2k less?

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


"Healers will be a purely healing focused"

Excuse me what

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



My dumb ol' laptop here only got "High." And had like 3 minutes of loading screens. Anything I can do about the last part?

Cabbit
Jul 19, 2001

Is that everything you have?

Nessus posted:

My dumb ol' laptop here only got "High." And had like 3 minutes of loading screens. Anything I can do about the last part?

Put an SSD in it.

corgski
Feb 6, 2007

Silly goose, you're here forever.

If you have a m.2 slot, buy a m.2 SSD to boot from and put the game resources on that drive. Otherwise, buy a large SATA SSD and clone your slow laptop disk over to it.

e:f,b

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Josuke Higashikata posted:

"Healers will be a purely healing focused"

Excuse me what
lol healers

this is what you get for being healers

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


Friendship ended with healers
Now unsubscribe is my best friend.


Seriously though did YoshiP forget Tetragrammaton is a skill already???

Cabbit
Jul 19, 2001

Is that everything you have?

Josuke Higashikata posted:

Friendship ended with healers
Now unsubscribe is my best friend.

Just roll a MCH and drill your way to freedom.

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007

Josuke Higashikata posted:

"Healers will be a purely healing focused"

Excuse me what
This is, generously, slightly misreading what they actually said.

DrakePegasus
Jan 30, 2009

It was Plundersaurus Rex's dream to be the greatest pirate dragon ever.

Paladins got everything I’ve ever wished for, except my pipe dream for a rez. This is my happy day.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


homeless snail posted:

This is, generously, slightly misreading what they actually said.

It's slightly too honest for this SINFUL game.

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.

homeless snail posted:

This is, generously, slightly misreading what they actually said.

純粋なヒーラージョブとしてのバランスを徹底。
Balance as a pure healer job will be made more consistent?

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:
My understanding was that he meant
"Everyone is going to heal, you're no longer going to bring a shielder and a healer."

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


If tanks get the shields then that makes sense. Hopefully the tank shields are party wide and not just single target.

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007

I read as, and backed up by what they said after, that the "pure healing role" will be more emphasized. That they're adding more direct healing to SCH and are mostly finished with the pure healer/shield healer split.

Like if they they were done with healer DPS then why are there so many new WHM attack spells

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.
"Offensive Actions will be reviewed."

Blast of Confetti
Apr 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Clarste posted:

"Offensive Actions will be reviewed."

the most offensive action of all

Poops Mcgoots
Jul 12, 2010

Pretty sure that just means they're gonna reassess what use each attack has and if potencies need to be adjusted to keep everyone even, but people are welcome to continue to yell about how the sky is falling and all healers will be forced to become content respecters.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


I can't believe they've deleted all DPS skills from the game, including from DPS.

The Viera are pretty good, I'm probably going to use my free fanta from 2013 and be one. Ivalice4lyfe

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



Are we getting a refreshing Fanta with Shadowbringers? Didn't they throw another one in at some point when they introduced Au Ra?

Orcs and Ostriches
Aug 26, 2010


The Great Twist
The only fantasia I remember was ARR MSQ way back when. I don't know if it still does.

Ibblebibble
Nov 12, 2013

Big brain idea: Split new MCH and old MCH, old MCH gets renamed to Gunner and goes hard into the 420snypaelite aesthetic, new MCH gets all the toys and robots, everyone's happy.

Edit: HW collector's edition came with a Fantasia.

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

You Win!

Ibblebibble posted:

Big brain idea: Split new MCH and old MCH, old MCH gets renamed to Gunner and goes hard into the 420snypaelite aesthetic, new MCH gets all the toys and robots, everyone's happy.

Edit: HW collector's edition came with a Fantasia.

The number of people happy with old MCH would have to be significant to make this worth doing

Dedekind
Sep 6, 2003

The blasphemer, uncontrite, must be punished mightily.
No benchmark for Mac. :(

S.J.
May 19, 2008

Just who the hell do you think we are?

Overwatch Porn posted:

no gauss barrel, no ammunition, no hot shot gauge

finally, machinist is playable

i hope the reload animation can get used for something because it's very satisfying

Cabbit
Jul 19, 2001

Is that everything you have?

Klewer posted:

You can see the description of umbral hearts in the B4 tooltip there, and it makes no mention of Despair. It might be a tooltip error as those are almost certain to exist in this early build, but for now I would assume that Despair's MP cost is not affected by umbral hearts

I went back and looked at the Job Action video and Despair is definitely eating Umbral Hearts like Flare does. Check it out.

Gonna be neat to play with.

Thundarr
Dec 24, 2002


My only regret with the benchmark is that it scored me at 9996. What, you couldn't squeeze out just a couple more frames to get me to 10k? :(

Oh yes, picture time:


An ancient ARR screenshot ripped off my PS4.


By the end of Heavensward, Sphairai Nexus was *still* the best Monk weapon glam.


Now all silver and black and glowy red bits, clearly ready to bring lots of edge and darkness to the First.


I didn't have plans on becoming a bunny girl but now I'm a little bit tempted? Dang that's fierce.

Xerophyte
Mar 17, 2008

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bigmandan posted:

The benchmark ran with black borders on the sides and couldn't find a way to change it. If it could render fully, I wonder how much that would affect the score. Maybe 2k less?

After running some tests I think it's actually rendering at 3440x1440 and then cropping to 2560x1440 so the score you get is accurate. Or, well, consistent, since it's a semi-meaningless score.

3440x1440 is about 35% more pixels than 2560x1440, so absolute worst case you'd need about 35% more time per frame (assuming you don't run out of GPU memory or whatever). However: the benchmark is pretty frequently CPU limited, and even when it's GPU limited not everything the GPU does scales strictly with resolution so the practical difference is going to be smaller. Actually running a 3440x1440 benchmark and a 2560x1440 benchmark I get the scores of 20838 vs 19281, a difference of 8%. My average FPS drops from 150 to 132 (14% diff), and my min FPS from 73 to 56 (23% diff).

My takeaways here are:
1. Ultrawide performance is probably accurate, and the pillarboxing is done after rendering.
2. Squeenix's score thing is weird. It's OK as a rough evaluation, but don't read too much into it. Were the framerates you were getting during the most intense segments of the benchmark acceptable? Then they'll probably stay that way in game.

[E:] I should add that both those runs were in windowed mode in the background this time because I wanted to do other things, hence the lower values than my fullscreen 3440x1440 run before. I don't think this made a difference for my conclusion.

Xerophyte fucked around with this message at 06:57 on May 24, 2019

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


If the final patch of Shadowbringers isn't called First and Last and Always YoshideP is a hack

Kaubocks
Apr 13, 2011

a little concerned about the hrothgar idle pose. it's just... like, really ugly



but when they're standing upright i love them! my new big fuzzy boy!



i'm hoping i can just slap out a good /cpose or just always idle with my weapon drawn or something. unsure if the bad idle pose is going to be a big deal breaker for me or not. we'll see

Adus
Nov 4, 2009

heck
anytime anyone posts one of those benchmarks these are the only things my brain decides to focus on



Poops Mcgoots
Jul 12, 2010

Kaubocks posted:

a little concerned about the hrothgar idle pose. it's just... like, really ugly



but when they're standing upright i love them! my new big fuzzy boy!



i'm hoping i can just slap out a good /cpose or just always idle with my weapon drawn or something. unsure if the bad idle pose is going to be a big deal breaker for me or not. we'll see

Each cpose actually just makes them bend further forward. The last one before neutral is them bent over completely and staring backwards between their legs.

LITERALLY MY FETISH
Nov 11, 2010


Raise Chris Coons' taxes so that we can have Medicare for All.

IDGAF if all of those scholar spells they showed did negative DPS, I'm going to database the gently caress out of all the raids and you can't stop me

they probably won't though because lol @ people who don't remember this is what always happens with the live letter, we don't get a clear picture until the embargo is lifted and people can share their footage to show off specifics.

Adus
Nov 4, 2009

heck
not at all related to shadowbringer poo poo, i finally played around with a shader. i had to keep it mild since my 8 year old computer started to chug a bit.


Kaubocks
Apr 13, 2011

Poops Mcgoots posted:

Each cpose actually just makes them bend further forward. The last one before neutral is them bent over completely and staring backwards between their legs.

don’t do this to me

Maguoob
Dec 26, 2012
Someone that is better at math see if a double Despair rotation is better than actually using Fire I (w/ sharpcast). Is Fire I also now RIP?! This of course assumes you can double despair.

HackensackBackpack
Aug 20, 2007

Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?
I came in as "Slightly Low" :negative:

I've known it's been time to upgrade since my first run of Rabanastre and Hashmal straight up didn't load so I fought an invisible boss, but what are y'all using to get extremely high (in the benchmark, not irl).

I'm using a Radeon R7 A10-7800, so I know I'm behind on current tech. 12288MB RAM. Any recommendations?

HackensackBackpack fucked around with this message at 07:49 on May 24, 2019

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.

Maguoob posted:

Someone that is better at math see if a double Despair rotation is better than actually using Fire I (w/ sharpcast). Is Fire I also now RIP?! This of course assumes you can double despair.

We have no idea since we haven't seen the numbers for all the spells.

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Solo Wing Pixy
Aug 5, 2008

It's an amanojaku!
And it hates you so much!
Well, that's certainly a preview of some things that the developers are going to do.

Maybe I'm being negative (I usually am), but I'm really glad I decided to wait and see on ShB instead of preordering it day 1 like I did with HW and Stormblood. Their healer changes sound like they're either going to make it into WoW-style healspam or homogenize all three healers to be extremely similar, and neither of those sounds great. The part where they're driving a bulldozer through my favorite DPS job to appease the CLASS FANTASY idiots isn't making me happy either. I'm really worried the developers are slipping into the World of Warcraft/League of Legends trap where they wildly rework jobs for the sake of reworking them, instead of making small adjustments or tweaks to less-popular ones, because that's not the type of game that I want to play anymore. :smith:

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