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Failboattootoot posted:Maybe, looked like the same poo poo in the skill trailer though. Well among other things Dark Arts is completely gone so Abyssal literally can not be the same spell.
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Thundarr posted:I'm not sure that a skill missing from the benchmark means much other than that it was not used by a character in the benchmark. Don't panic about what skills were or were not removed until we get the full 5.0 Job Guide. Fair, I went back and checked the stormblood video and Bhava/Trick were not in that one.
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So what cut spell is going to be photoshopped into everyone's avatar for this expansion?
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May 24, 2019 14:49
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Oxyclean posted:So what cut spell is going to be photoshopped into everyone's avatar for this expansion? Protect
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May 24, 2019 14:56
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I came back to level AST before the expansion and forgot about protect and everyone in the party just stood there waiting for me and I'm like "What the gently caress is wrong with you guys?" then I remember about it and told them I'll be super glad when protect is dead Im super glad protect is dead
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May 24, 2019 15:01
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Hey, they wouldn't be comfortable running the dungeon without that 1-5% damage reduction.
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May 24, 2019 15:04
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 Hrothgar are Good Boys. (Does this look alright? Im still playing with it)
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Cao Ni Ma posted:I came back to level AST before the expansion and forgot about protect and everyone in the party just stood there waiting for me and I'm like "What the gently caress is wrong with you guys?" then I remember about it and told them I'll be super glad when protect is dead Protect has a cool spell affect on your dude when you are getting hit but that's the only positive, I'll be glad it's dead too.
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May 24, 2019 15:29
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ImpAtom posted:Well among other things Dark Arts is completely gone so Abyssal literally can not be the same spell.
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May 24, 2019 15:45
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As a tank Protect (or at least a stutter step) is my signal that the healer is aware and ready to follow me into the abyss at the start of a dungeon (if you assume simply being in the Duty implies readiness then lol) I wonder if it'll get a replacement in that sense
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May 24, 2019 15:45
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Ciaphas posted:I wonder if it'll get a replacement in that sense Please look forward to shell.
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May 24, 2019 15:46
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Oxyclean posted:So what cut spell is going to be photoshopped into everyone's avatar for this expansion? I still have a greyed out Fracture icon on one of my bars.
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May 24, 2019 15:51
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Smart Car posted:One thing you can also see in the Job preview video is that there's more jobs with AoE combos now, you see the Warrior doing an Overpower into a new move spinny move that generates gauge for example. Wouldn't surprise me if a design goal of theirs is to make it so there's less AoE rotations that are just "spam this one button". A lot of jobs seemed to pick up AoE combos. DRG seems to have a 3 hit combo, NIN had a 2 hit, RDM Veraero and Verthunder are becoming AoE, GNB has a 2 hit AoE that loads one of its cartridges, PLD grabbed a spell from Tactics and can do a bigger Holy Spirit that looked AoE.
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May 24, 2019 15:52
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Leofish posted:I still have a greyed out Fracture icon on one of my bars. I've got OG Cleric Stance on my WHM bar. A solemn reminder to what we've lost.
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BrightWing posted:A lot of jobs seemed to pick up AoE combos. DRG seems to have a 3 hit combo, NIN had a 2 hit, RDM Veraero and Verthunder are becoming AoE, GNB has a 2 hit AoE that loads one of its cartridges, PLD grabbed a spell from Tactics and can do a bigger Holy Spirit that looked AoE. They mentioned something about some jobs would have a way of activating or toggling an AoE mode out of their other abilities. They didn't really delve into the details. In the RDM preview, they open with AoE thunder and aero, but later on they use the vanilla version instead, so they either have two skills for them, or there is a way to turn AoE mode on.
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:They mentioned something about some jobs would have a way of activating or toggling an AoE mode out of their other abilities. They didn't really delve into the details. In the RDM preview, they open with AoE thunder and aero, but later on they use the vanilla version instead, so they either have two skills for them, or there is a way to turn AoE mode on. Which is really cool. Much better than fuckign Scatter spam at least.
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BrightWing posted:Which is really cool. Much better than fuckign Scatter spam at least. Definitely. And if it gets turds in dungeons using their AoE skills because they still follow part of their main rotation, it's a big plus.
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May 24, 2019 16:07
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It looks like impact is AOE now so may be it is as simple as Jolt give ST Impact gives AoE?
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May 24, 2019 16:08
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We got to see RDM bars during the LL, aoe thunder/aero are separate buttons, and Impact is now a 5 second cast aoe. So for aoe it's Thunder/Aero into Impact. Moulinet is also 20/20 mana now instead of 30/30 which means you'll be able to sword slash after 4 casts, and max aoe burst is 7 slashes in a row off of 90/90 mana with Manafication. TLDR - RDM AOE IS GONNA BE COOL
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May 24, 2019 16:18
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May 24, 2019 16:21
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Stormgale posted:Yeah the whole healing thing is "All healers will be good at healing Raw HP, and have some short of shielding for emergencies" Correct. Yoshida used the same translated term of "pure healer" (as opposed to "shield healer") in his interview with MrHappy a while back, so it's simply the term they're using to describe healers with high raw throughput. My guess is that they want to establish a baseline of healing competence and then differentiate the healers through playstyle and utility options, as the alternative (wildly different healing styles) is abysmally hard to try and balance in an environment where you're going to have only two healers per raid at best.
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ImpAtom posted:It looks like impact is AOE now so may be it is as simple as Jolt give ST Impact gives AoE? I hope that's the case, it's a really smart way to avoid button bloat
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Vermain posted:Correct. Yoshida used the same translated term of "pure healer" (as opposed to "shield healer") in his interview with MrHappy a while back, so it's simply the term they're using to describe healers with high raw throughput. My guess is that they want to establish a baseline of healing competence and then differentiate the healers through playstyle and utility options, as the alternative (wildly different healing styles) is abysmally hard to try and balance in an environment where you're going to have only two healers per raid at best. We'll see how it shakes out of course but I do like the idea of all heals just being HP healers and then like SCH also brings some shields or AST brings a few fun buffs and maybe WHM has some big fun buttons to use too.
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From the summary:quote:Machinist is currently undergoing significant changes where it’s basically a new job. They wanted to address the confusing mechanics involved and even when you understand them it didn’t feel very rewarding. Now, it’s a positive thing to build your Machinist job gauge. When the battery gauge is charged you can summon a robot to fight alongside you. They wanted to revisit the idea of the machinist using machines over shooting — they’ll pull out different weapons like like a drill and so on. Gauss Barrel is no more. I'm really happy with this rework. I've always enjoyed MCH through the ups and downs, but now they're making you Edgar with a gun! Here's what I can see from the trailer: - They're using Heated Shots at all times. Maybe it'll be a trait upgrade now, or maybe another ability (Flamethrower or Hot Shot) will enable them temporarily? - Using Tools increases the battery gauge. I saw Bio Blaster, Auto Crossbow, and Drill. The one with all the chains is their interpretation of Air Anchor, I'm guessing? - Wildfire activated by spending 50 heat. - Barrel Stabilizer now adds 50 heat instead of setting heat to 50. - I didn't see a turret anywhere. Not sure how that ties into the job right now, or if it's related to the robot buddy. - There's no ammo gauge. It seriously looks like a new job now, it's insane.
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Oxyclean posted:So what cut spell is going to be photoshopped into everyone's avatar for this expansion? 
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I enjoyed the 1 - 2 - 1 - 3 - 2 - 3 core rotation on MCH. I hope they keep that. 1 - 2 - 3 rotations are boring. Everything else about the changes looked awesome. It's going to be difficult to decide between DRK, SCH, and MCH now.
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DizzyBum posted:- Using Tools increases the battery gauge. I saw Bio Blaster, Auto Crossbow, and Drill. The one with all the chains is their interpretation of Air Anchor, I'm guessing? Air Anchor could always have been read as some kind of net attached to a spike, it just comes out so fast and the SNES sprite is small enough that it's hard to decide.  So yeah, I'm betting it's that.
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Ciaphas posted:As a tank Protect (or at least a stutter step) is my signal that the healer is aware and ready to follow me into the abyss at the start of a dungeon (if you assume simply being in the Duty implies readiness then lol) yeah, it's nice to have a sec to summon fairy and aetherflow then using protect before the tank runs dick first in to stuff but a buff that every healer has that pretty much only gets used at the start of the dungeon isnt exactly what id consider worth keeping since you can just tone everything down a few percent points and have nothing change and I can accomplish the same thing by having /ready on my crossbar
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Blast of Confetti posted:yeah, it's nice to have a sec to summon fairy and aetherflow then using protect before the tank runs dick first in to stuff but a buff that every healer has that pretty much only gets used at the start of the dungeon isnt exactly what id consider worth keeping since you can just tone everything down a few percent points and have nothing change and I can accomplish the same thing by having /ready on my crossbar oh sure totally agreed i can just imagine all the "what are you waiting for?" "protect" "there's no protect anymore ya knob, get your dick in those trash mobs" in the future though, lol
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May 24, 2019 17:22
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Next time someone complains about me not casting protect I'm going to tell them I'm practicing for the expansion.
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Prism posted:Air Anchor could always have been read as some kind of net attached to a spike, it just comes out so fast and the SNES sprite is small enough that it's hard to decide. Yeah it's one of those weird things that never quite made sense to me. It's like... Edgar shoots this whisk-looking thing from what looks like a cross between a fishing reel and a faucet, it knocks the enemy back, and gives them a totally unique status effect that works like FF9's Heat. 
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May 24, 2019 17:28
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If I buy base game (Starter) and Shadowbringers does that get me all content on PS4 ?
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mfny posted:If I buy base game (Starter) and Shadowbringers does that get me all content on PS4 ? Not until Shadowbringers actually releases. E: To clarify, until ShB releases, preordering it wont get you access to the expacs. Gotta buy Stormblood to do that.
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Just quick bind a ready check for dungeons to see if everyone is readybefore pulling half the dungeon.
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I'm genuinely disappointed that job quests are getting depreciated. Those are my favorite quests in the game since they really gave me a real sense of progressing up in level.
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May 24, 2019 17:33
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Heavensward is also free until June 27th on PSN, so you can go all the way through to the end of the first expansion if you bought the starter edition. Plenty of stuff to fill out a month and change unless you powergame it. e: relevant info: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/c9bbc9225ec2fad7a30a8cc55e4d62177375d0f2
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ChaseSP posted:Just quick bind a ready check for dungeons to see if everyone is readybefore pulling half the dungeon. Or just pull. Worst case scenario you die painfully. In real life.
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I’m having trouble deciding which tank to main going forward. I started on PLD, moved to DRK in HW, back to PLD in SB, but recently capped WAR and have been using that. PLD and DRK changes look interesting (PLD getting better AoE, DRK dropping DA bull crap) and WAR doesn’t seem to be getting as exciting of updates...
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