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Like go on Google maps and Google "bathroom" then strike out anywhere that's a business because they don't let you do that. Then cross out any of those pay toilets, A Bunch of those green squares are cemeteries elementary schools and private businesses that calls the cops on you you gotta take a s hit and what are you going to do walk to De Longpre park? That's 7 loving blocks from hollywood and vine and you gotta take a poo poo.
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Not to mention every bitchy ppst about the homeless is you calling them loving monsters and justifying your lovely attitude with the fact that you have to work with them.
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May 24, 2019 08:45
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Find me a place to s hit on hollywood and vine. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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May 24, 2019 08:48
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Turtlicious posted:Find me a place to s hit on hollywood and vine.
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May 24, 2019 10:25
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Turtlicious posted:I was actually homeless in California, and if you lived near hollywood & vine, there's a non zero percent chance I shat on your side walk because I didn't have a quarter for the porta potty. Thank you for your service.
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May 24, 2019 17:00
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Don't get me wrong, I am absolutely in favor of the homeless making GBS threads on Hollywood streets or in the yards of elected officials. Just please don't do it in view of young children.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Don't get me wrong, I am absolutely in favor of the homeless making GBS threads on Hollywood streets or in the yards of elected officials. Just please don't do it in view of young children. Elected officials have kids. I'm not really in favor of the homeless making GBS threads on the streets because it's hosed up that they 1) are homeless and 2) have to poo poo in the street. I don't like having to walk around all the piles of poo poo in SF but as long as they aren't purposely duck walking so they can poo poo on my shoes as I walk I'm not going to get mad. I'm not mad at the mentally ill guy digging poo poo out of his rear end in the middle of the BART car. It was gross as hell but it felt more like a power move on his part. No way I'm letting old rock-poo poo over there win. I think it's valid to be mad at the dude taking a dump in your lawn in front of your kids, especially if your kids are emotionally harmed afterwards. It's also valid that the guy doesn't really have another option at the moment and didn't want to poo poo his pants. The least a city should do is have public bathrooms that are cleaned multiple times per day by people trained to deal with needles and other biohazards. Even better would be to have paid advocates there to help deal with simple hygiene issues and try to make sure no one OD's in the bathroom.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I can't speak for anyone else but if I was homeless I don't think I would drop trou and poo poo in front of children of any gender real or imagined and I'd probably be disgusted by those who did such things. He probably started making GBS threads before the kids walked outside I am assuming
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Admiral Ray posted:The least a city should do is have public bathrooms that are cleaned multiple times per day by people trained to deal with needles and other biohazards. Even better would be to have paid advocates there to help deal with simple hygiene issues and try to make sure no one OD's in the bathroom. That would require rich people to pay taxes. E: It also takes away profit opportunity from private companies.
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May 24, 2019 18:55
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Rich people: "Ugh, there are so many homeless clogging up my SF neighborhood! We should really do something about this problem!" Sane people: "Well, the most effective solution for solving the homeless crisis would involve less capitalism and more socialism." Rich people: "Now wait just a minute..."
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May 24, 2019 19:45
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You're delusional if you think it's just rich people against public housing. It has a really bad reputation in the US, which is why even progressive candidates who crow about M4A don't talk about it much, if at all.
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May 24, 2019 20:03
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Rich people want to make things better, without changing anything that affects themselves. They believe this right up until it becomes obvious that they are the problem and their comfortable lives will have to change a little, too, at which point you can pry the zoning commission and paramilitary police from their cold, dead hands.
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Cicero posted:You're delusional if you think it's just rich people against public housing. It has a really bad reputation in the US...
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May 24, 2019 20:51
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CopperHound posted:Ah, the good ol' delusion of revenue neutral public housing. Let's build more giant projects and once again refuse to commit to maintaining them. My parents are left as hell and also really wary of public housing because they grew up in Chicago, and the Projects are a prime example of "just throw up big buildings and cram all the poors in, that'll solve things right?"
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May 24, 2019 20:57
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we can probably free up a lot of housing if we just execute everyone's grandma except mine
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May 24, 2019 20:59
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I just hate the one guy who works with homeless spends all day posting about how they're inhuman monsters.
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May 24, 2019 21:12
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That happens to a lot of professions though. Social workers, teachers, counselors, etc can all experience compassion fatigue and develop a chip on their shoulder from all the self destructive individuals they had to tirelessly work with. Don't even get me started on special Ed teachers.
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May 24, 2019 21:17
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Panfilo posted:That happens to a lot of professions though. Social workers, teachers, counselors, etc can all experience compassion fatigue and develop a chip on their shoulder from all the self destructive individuals they had to tirelessly work with. So you can see why a lot of chronically homeless people act like assholes - everyone they ever thought was on their side turned their back on someone in desperate need of help. It's enough to make anyone permanently pissed off. That doesn't make it any easier for the strangers trying to help them, though.
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I'm aware. What I was saying is that the people employed to help individuals like the homeless can go into it in good faith but get so frustrated and exhausted trying to help their clients stay clean, not get kicked out of housing that took months to secure, and bear the brunt of all the blame and frustration the whole time. It gets exhausting, which is why these jobs are often not high paying, high prestige professions. They can help a lot of people, but it's easy for a few really lovely clients to build up biases in the worker's head.
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Yeah, I have an aunt who was a claims representative for the Social Security Administration for a couple decades, and it left her with a really negative attitude toward the poor. Just a long enough parade of people who need help will exhaust you and give you a distorted view of their demographic. Though on the other hand that job also got her to interact directly with a lot of trans people, which made her supportive of that community well before LGBT rights was a mainstream cause.
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Panfilo posted:That happens to a lot of professions though. Social workers, teachers, counselors, etc can all experience compassion fatigue and develop a chip on their shoulder from all the self destructive individuals they had to tirelessly work with. Wife is a Special Ed teacher and I can confirm, the kids constant self-destruction because of their terrible environments (btw that's not talked about enough - most of these kids would be 'normal' if they had a decent home life) just kills her soul. She's poured dozens of hours into helping particular individuals only to watch them get pregnant/self-destruct from drugs/violence. Absolutely awful.
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Cicero posted:You're delusional if you think it's just rich people against public housing. It has a really bad reputation in the US, which is why even progressive candidates who crow about M4A don't talk about it much, if at all. Warren does have a policy platform to build 320,000 affordable housing units a year with money set aside for upkeep as well, total of $45B/year, fully funded with money left over for a few other housing-related things by restoring the estate tax to what it was 10 years ago. Bernie has talked about building a huge amount of affordable housing as well but the specific details are not yet out, though it would be done by establishing community land trusts and funding those.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Don't get me wrong, I am absolutely in favor of the homeless making GBS threads on Hollywood streets or in the yards of elected officials. Just please don't do it in view of young children. Kids need to learn what to do if they ever become homeless.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Wife is a Special Ed teacher and I can confirm, the kids constant self-destruction because of their terrible environments (btw that's not talked about enough - most of these kids would be 'normal' if they had a decent home life) just kills her soul. She's poured dozens of hours into helping particular individuals only to watch them get pregnant/self-destruct from drugs/violence. Absolutely awful. When I was a substitute, Special Ed was the most common assignment and it's part of the reason I quit subbing. It is a ton of work managing that kind of class environment and I'd get zero support from faculty. I'd get a student throwing chairs at me and when I sent them to the office the vice principal would call my room asking, "Why are you sending them here? Keep them in class and deal with the issue yourself"  A lot of schools in that district didn't even have a full time special Ed teacher,it was a revolving door of low seniority teachers and long term subs covering the classes. Nobody wanted to teach it so the students who needed the most support got the least quality of education, not to mention the failures to follow through on IEPs.
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Infinite Karma posted:The people who hold on to their friends and support networks are the ones who never get abandoned enough to poo poo on someone's front lawn. Well, sometimes... https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1005208608609587200
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All the chronic sidewalk shitters I hear about aren't even homeless, they end up being comfortably middle class PTA mom with some petty grudge against other parents.
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Panfilo posted:Obviously they should have invited the homeless person in their home to use their restroom. It would save them the trouble of cleaning up the mess and inspired their neighbors to do the same. No actually the correct thing to do is continue pretending to be a caring empathetic person while ignoring the suffering of your fellow man and casting yourself as the true victim
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knowing the neighbors I've had if you put a port-a-potty on your lawn for the homeless you'd come home to a strongly worded note on your door bitching at you for encouraging "those kinds of people" to hang around the neighborhood and threatening to call the city
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Panfilo posted:When I was a substitute, Special Ed was the most common assignment and it's part of the reason I quit subbing. It is a ton of work managing that kind of class environment and I'd get zero support from faculty. I'd get a student throwing chairs at me and when I sent them to the office the vice principal would call my room asking, "Why are you sending them here? Keep them in class and deal with the issue yourself" Yeah that's exactly what happened to me when I subbed. I subbed a class full of 20 resource kids that were on short term subs (6 weeks) for a year on end and I called their parents and left messages and said basically "just fyi your kids can't learn in this environment, getting a new teacher and starting from scratch every 6 weeks is awful and you should contact the district and raise hell, please call me back if you need more details or to plan" and you know how many of those parents actually called me? None. Checked on the class 4 months later via the classroom aide and they still had a revolving door of subs, none of those kid's parents gave a poo poo at all.
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May 29, 2019 01:22
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Turtlicious posted:Find me a place to s hit on hollywood and vine. A hero falls
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May 29, 2019 01:27
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Turtlicious posted:Find me a place to s hit on hollywood and vine. ✊
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The problem with public housing is the same problem that 90% of other govt programs in the USA had which is that they were gimped from the start by people whose stated political strategy was to choke out public welfare programs until they collapsed so that they could then throw them out entirely and declare them a failure of the left. Worked pretty well.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Yeah that's exactly what happened to me when I subbed. I subbed a class full of 20 resource kids that were on short term subs (6 weeks) for a year on end and I called their parents and left messages and said basically "just fyi your kids can't learn in this environment, getting a new teacher and starting from scratch every 6 weeks is awful and you should contact the district and raise hell, please call me back if you need more details or to plan" and you know how many of those parents actually called me? None. Checked on the class 4 months later via the classroom aide and they still had a revolving door of subs, none of those kid's parents gave a poo poo at all. It's possible that they just didn't have any faith whatsoever that you could change poo poo all (possibly they understand what you're telling them and have already tried before you came onto the scene) and are otherwise engaged in putting all their effort into getting bills paid and whatnot. Like idk what contacting the district to be angry about it is realistically gonna do. 
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Yeah that's exactly what happened to me when I subbed. I subbed a class full of 20 resource kids that were on short term subs (6 weeks) for a year on end and I called their parents and left messages and said basically "just fyi your kids can't learn in this environment, getting a new teacher and starting from scratch every 6 weeks is awful and you should contact the district and raise hell, please call me back if you need more details or to plan" and you know how many of those parents actually called me? None. Checked on the class 4 months later via the classroom aide and they still had a revolving door of subs, none of those kid's parents gave a poo poo at all. Those classes also tended to have the vice principal tell everybody they were getting a 'B' as long as they showed up to class. So the students had zero incentive to do anything which just made it an even bigger waste of time. And since nobody was worried about anything having any impact on their grade, they didn't feel the need to listen to the teacher about anything.
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This thread has inspired me to start a new project funding public port-a-potties in gentrified neighborhoods
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Moridin920 posted:Like idk what contacting the district to be angry about it is realistically gonna do. They could ask for a year long sub, which is a special class of sub that costs the district more money but would actually allow the kids to learn. Which I could have told them, if they had bothered to call. And if the district wouldn't do it they could have gone to meetings, protested, whatever. Generally the squeeky wheel gets the grease in these situations. But no when your kid is on the revolving treadmill of subs because the district knows you don't give a poo poo and won't punish them for it then it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Sad thing was, the fuckers were right. Panfilo posted:Those classes also tended to have the vice principal tell everybody they were getting a 'B' as long as they showed up to class. So the students had zero incentive to do anything which just made it an even bigger waste of time. And since nobody was worried about anything having any impact on their grade, they didn't feel the need to listen to the teacher about anything. Wow I wonder if you and I subbed the same class. Depressingly, probably not.
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Moridin920 posted:Like idk what contacting the district to be angry about it is realistically gonna do. So calling up and say "Me and a few other parents asked a lawyer about this and..." would probably move the needle.
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Yeah if you say "I'm going to sue because you're violating my kid's IEP" the people down at district start taking you very seriously and go into damage control mode. Source: My wife, who may or may not tell parents to say this (Bob from Incredibles style) if their kid is receiving inadequate instruction. (I'm stretching things a bit here both to hide her exact techniques as well as give plausible deniability)
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Yeah that sitch is violating a whole bunch of federal AND California law. Short term subs for a year is a huge no-no under California law, even with the huge sped teacher shortage.
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