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Nckdictator posted:You know what late 90s/early 2000s sci fi show has aged well? To that, Andromeda. It's basically the high point of UPN/WB whatever network back then was making cheap-moderate costing Saturday afternoon serialized TV shows. It's mindless fun with mediocre-good acting and crazy dumb make-up and SFX.
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May 24, 2019 01:45
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May 24, 2019 01:55
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SeaQuest was dated in the 90's.
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May 24, 2019 02:05
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Len posted:Remember Doll House? Because man was that a thing. Were those actually DVD-only episodes (there were two of them, the season finale for 1 and 2)? I thought they really recontextualized the entire show a ton into something I enjoyed for the weird transhumanist insanity of it, but it's one of those shows where it was really questionable even before it was common knowledge what a lovely scuzzball Whedon was.
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May 24, 2019 02:07
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pentyne posted:To that, I loved Andromeda, but I do remember it falling apart in the later seasons. It is, however, very much early-2000's sci-fi TV, with all that that implies. I wish Kevin Sorbo wasn't a massive rear end in a top hat, I really liked him as an actor. Not that he was good, but I found him delightful.
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May 24, 2019 02:12
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food court bailiff posted:Were those actually DVD-only episodes (there were two of them, the season finale for 1 and 2)? I thought they really recontextualized the entire show a ton into something I enjoyed for the weird transhumanist insanity of it, but it's one of those shows where it was really questionable even before it was common knowledge what a lovely scuzzball Whedon was. quote:Unaired "Epitaph One" 
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May 24, 2019 02:18
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Len posted:Remember Doll House? Because man was that a thing. It was aired in some places and it set up the main plot for the second season (which was incredibly uneven but a lot better than the first one).
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May 24, 2019 03:24
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Len posted:Remember Doll House? Because man was that a thing. It's hard to even figure out where to begin talking about how bad that show was. Every terrible thing ties directly into three more terrible things just as worthy of criticism. I almost want to watch it again just to do an in-depth analysis.
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May 24, 2019 06:04
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It doesn't belong anyway but just in case, please don't openly spoil Farscape  I'm only a few episodes into season 3, but I will finish it some day!P.S. Whedonverse
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May 24, 2019 08:07
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pentyne posted:To that, This was true for maybe the first season. It had some interesting things going on here and there, and it had a surprising amount of moral grey. A particular highlight was an episode where they find an outpost of cargo culted Commonwealth Navy cadets with a poo poo-ton of nukes; Hunt tells them how bad nukes are and how nuking isn't the way, then confiscates the nukes and rearms the Andromeda with them "in case they're needed". Then Sorbo went nuts and the network started interfering heavily, demanding that everything be dumbed down to the point where the producers were told to remove Tyr's arm spikes "so they wouldn't have to explain what a Nietzschean was every week" - a move not unadjacent to saying "why does Spock need the pointy ears". So it's less that Andromeda didn't age well and more that it got Alzheimer's.
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May 24, 2019 08:30
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I like the episode where they build a new Andromeda and everyone's like "things are looking up!" and then it just explodes because it hit a space duck or something.
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May 24, 2019 08:43
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I never watched Dollhouse, and I know nothing about it. Can someone lay out just how terrible it is? I'm always fascinated to hear about poo poo like that.
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May 24, 2019 13:59
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Leavemywife posted:I never watched Dollhouse, and I know nothing about it. Can someone lay out just how terrible it is? I'm always fascinated to hear about poo poo like that. Something Awful's own Zack Parsons wrote a pretty decent overview.
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May 24, 2019 14:14
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Leavemywife posted:I never watched Dollhouse, and I know nothing about it. Can someone lay out just how terrible it is? I'm always fascinated to hear about poo poo like that. Eliza Dushku is a brainwashed automaton who regularly receives (sexy) personality implants to become whatever kind of (sexy) operative this week's (sexy) mission requires. In between missions she relaxes in the luxury hotel warehouse and exchanges bland pleasantries with the other brainwashed automatons housed there. As the first season develops, it becomes apparent that this high tech spy network slash brothel is not as benevolent as it seems on the surface. In fact there is something downright sinister going on! It's been a decade and I don't remember much more than that.
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May 24, 2019 14:14
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There's also the psychopath that the show thinks is a quirky but loveable nerd.
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May 24, 2019 14:24
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It's also this drawn-out, self-indulgent metaphor about directors toying with actresses, molding them through the story for their own fantasies, Whedon's most blatant work yet about how he's hosed up and wants you to know it so you'll absolve him of his sins without any real effort.
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May 24, 2019 14:49
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And the Dollhouse are openly evil slavers from the start, but you're supposed to think they're good guys. And Echo herself is a loving idiot.
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May 24, 2019 14:57
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Apparently they wanted the show to be more about "desire" but it turns out it was more interesting to make it about brainwashing lead to the apocalypse. It's got some neat twists and ideas but overall it's a huge problematic mess that had aged terribly especially in light of Whedon's issues.
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May 24, 2019 15:15
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I'm convinced the only reason Dollhouse even made it into production was that everyone on the internet except me kept saying how Joss Whedon was great and Firefly shouldn't have been cancelled so the execs green lighted that pile of poo poo to make themselves look good by giving him another chance. Same reason it got more than one season.
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May 24, 2019 17:40
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Jedit posted:And the Dollhouse are openly evil slavers from the start, but you're supposed to think they're good guys. Not to defend the show but this is insanely stupid and wrong. Like, holy poo poo what a dumb take.
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May 24, 2019 17:42
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I'm convinced the only reason Dollhouse even made it into production was that everyone on the internet except me kept saying how Joss Whedon was great and Firefly shouldn't have been cancelled so the execs green lighted that pile of poo poo to make themselves look good by giving him another chance. Same reason it got more than one season. Yeah, I mean it's hard to understate the fervor that was rekindled with Serenity as well as Dr. Horrible, it was totally that. Thinking about it, the whole Firefly phenomenon was totally a product of the time it existed. It showed up about the time that DVD came on to the scene, and for nerds it was probably their first DVD set (two unpaired episodes, and unfucked viewing order, definitely didn't hurt), which allowed them to proselytize it to other nerds who had Magic to play on Fridays. Had it been around a few years earlier, it would probably be remembered the way we remember Space: Above and Beyond. Had it come out a few years later, I really doubt it would have had the traction it had because cable was now in every house.
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May 24, 2019 17:58
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food court bailiff posted:Not to defend the show but this is insanely stupid and wrong. Like, holy poo poo what a dumb take. Doesn't the show start with a new hire being really suspicious of whats going on and trying to uncover the secrets?
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May 24, 2019 18:42
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pentyne posted:Doesn't the show start with a new hire being really suspicious of whats going on and trying to uncover the secrets? It's been ages but IIRC it's literally a detective doing an investigation into a company that sells evenings with brainwashed sex slaves. I don't know why I'm continually surprised when people conflate "protagonist" with "good guy" but good lord.
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May 24, 2019 18:45
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Dr. Horrible sucked. I just really didn't get why everyone was so into it. edit: Then again, I'm not into super hero stuff, so that probably had a lot to do with it.
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May 24, 2019 18:56
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Solice Kirsk posted:Dr. Horrible sucked. I just really didn't get why everyone was so into it.  It was just Cult of Wheadon crap IMHO. We had non-stop Wheadon on TV from 1997 to 2004, it was the first new thing in a few years.
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May 24, 2019 19:05
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Solice Kirsk posted:Dr. Horrible sucked. I just really didn't get why everyone was so into it. I like superhero stuff and though Dr Horrible was pretty bad But it was a perfect storm for nerd love. A musical miniseries by Joss Whedon starting Nathan Fillian and Felicia Day about supervillains. And it was edgy because it came out during the writers strike through loopholes.
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May 24, 2019 19:06
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I don’t like it but the tunes are catchy. And now stuck on my head. Thanks, assholes.
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May 24, 2019 19:35
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And Neil Patrick Harris is pretty good in everything I've seen him do. He looks like he has fun, really enjoys what he does and such. Though I don't imagine I'll ever watch that sitcom he did. Maybe it was also good, maybe not. I'll never know.
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May 24, 2019 19:37
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ReidRansom posted:And Neil Patrick Harris is pretty good in everything I've seen him do. He looks like he has fun, really enjoys what he does and such. Doogie Howser MD was great though!
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May 24, 2019 19:45
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I remember people telling me that the Buffy musical episode was incredible, and they convinced me to watch it during a Comicon viewing. I remember walking out wondering if I lived in a bizarro world where people liked things that were really terrible. These same friends recommended Firefly and Dr. Horrible, and I was foolish enough to try watching them as well. I don't listen to their show recommendations anymore. loving hell, Whedon is garbage.
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May 24, 2019 20:19
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That is why joss wedont watch his stuff anymore
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May 24, 2019 20:21
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Well angel was cool
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May 24, 2019 20:22
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I rewatched Buffy last year and thought it mostly held up great. Season 6 is too edgelordy for me as an adult (everyone's just miserable the whole way through and Willow getting hooked on magic is my least favorite tv plotline ever) but 2-5 are still a lot of fun. I haven't rewatched Angel in probably ten years. I used to love it, but I wonder if I wouldn't like it as much since I didn't like the darker parts of Buffy this time and Angel was really grim in the middle seasons.
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May 24, 2019 20:44
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wizzardstaff posted:Eliza Dushku is a brainwashed automaton who regularly receives (sexy) personality implants to become whatever kind of (sexy) operative this week's (sexy) mission requires. In between missions she relaxes in the luxury hotel warehouse and exchanges bland pleasantries with the other brainwashed automatons housed there. Also the premise of the show is supposed to be how the brainwashed people have all new personalities implanted in them but Eliza Dushku is such a terrible actress all her characters come out the same.
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May 24, 2019 20:47
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ReidRansom posted:And Neil Patrick Harris is pretty good in everything I've seen him do. He looks like he has fun, really enjoys what he does and such. How I Met Your Mother is an overall mediocre show being hoisted on the shoulders of Neil Patrick Harris and Jason Segal. Source: I've binged the whole series on Netflix. Twice.
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May 24, 2019 20:47
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muscles like this! posted:Also the premise of the show is supposed to be how the brainwashed people have all new personalities implanted in them but Eliza Dushku is such a terrible actress all her characters come out the same. It was a travesty because Enver Gjoklaj was fantastic and was barely used.
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May 24, 2019 21:14
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pentyne posted:It was a travesty because Enver Gjoklaj was fantastic and was barely used. Man I forgot about him, just checked and he was in Agent Carter and I didn't realize it till just now...
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May 24, 2019 21:20
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duck trucker posted:How I Met Your Mother is an overall mediocre show being hoisted on the shoulders of Neil Patrick Harris and Jason Segal. I think Radnor had some good moments even if he was probably the weakest member of the cast. Leaning into it and making Ted’s pretentious douchiness a deliberate part of his character helped too
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Making Ted a dick doesn’t work when it turns out Ted Was Right All Along. He achieves all his career goals, gets to make babby with his manic pixie dream girl, and then she conveniently dies so his hot crush who has spent seasons trying to exert herself can finally realize that he’s all she ever wanted. Edgar Allen Ho has a new favorite as of 22:28 on May 24, 2019 |
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