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Luchovsky, Oleg, Luchovsky and Zakarov Shipwrights present a bold new idea for the future of Naval Warfare. We bring you: Speed! Choose your engagements, use speed to herd your enemies away from supporting craft. Advance quickly in the opposite direction, or direction of the enemy! All forward Main Battery; 2x12" in a forward turret. Large Secondary Battery; 12x6" guns PER SIDE. Bristling with Torpedoes; Literally as many as we could fit until someone thinks of some absurd manner in which we could put them on the decks. Perfect for pouncing on a disabled ship! Full Deck Protection; 2" of Deck and Deck Extended offers complete protection from splinters damaging flotation or vital equipment. Fully effective armor for current and near future threats. *Some* people, who lack the proper vision may say: That it's short range means it will be unable to move across the world to defend our backwater colonial possessions in Northeast Asia in the event of war with (the backwards and inferior power) of Japan; and that it's cramped accommodations will prevent it's use outside our home ports. To this we say: Our primary enemies are here in Europe, and the capabilities this vessel brings to the table will ensure peace in our time. Infidelicious fucked around with this message at 16:47 on May 25, 2019 |
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I love how terrible all of this is
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May 25, 2019 16:39
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Infidelicious posted:Luchovsky, Oleg, Luchovsky and Zakarov Shipwrights present a bold new idea for the future of Naval Warfare. Now that's a design! Tell me, could you make it entirely circular?
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May 25, 2019 16:41
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Yeah, these things are not about competent ship design, their about sending me into battle with a fleet of clown cars.
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May 25, 2019 16:42
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reminds me of the actual discussions (mostly in the French navy) about designing warships.
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May 25, 2019 16:52
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That superstructure design! What is this, Space Battleship Blyat?
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May 25, 2019 16:53
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Volmarias posted:I love how terrible all of this is Welcome to the beautiful multicar pileup of goons, early 20th century ironclads, slav shitposting and grog games.
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May 25, 2019 16:57
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vyelkin posted:Now that's a design! Engineers have stated that with current technology a completely circular hull form would be incapable of reaching these blistering speeds.
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May 25, 2019 17:09
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 (Prince Valeryan Igorovich Urodlivyy, at a historical ball in St. Petersburg, circa 1899) From the desk of the Prince Urodlivyy posted:My dearest cousin Alexandrovich, we among the Русские созданы для борьбы и победы salon have come to a consensus on what is most needed to show that Russia can indeed be the greatest of all powers on both land and sea. Please behold, the Ekaterina Veliskaya, submitted with the able drafting assistance of the Saint Petersburg firm В.А.А.А.Г.Х. habeasdorkus fucked around with this message at 18:38 on May 25, 2019 |
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May 25, 2019 18:17
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Silence please! I am delighted to announce that Count Dogsarentdangerouski has been released from the Institution with a certificate of complete mental health signed by all of the nations top doctors qualified to do so! The Count has announced his intention to take up a new hobby, more acceptable to the public sphere - namely - Warship design! Accordingly please see below "Proposal A". This bold vision of the future will allow the Tsar to project power effortlessly across the world. Their will be no corner of the globe in which the enemies of Russia can hide from this state of the art steel behemoth. The last word in warship design and the first step to global empire. Traditionalists may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like!  dogsarentdangerous fucked around with this message at 18:35 on May 25, 2019 |
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May 25, 2019 18:20
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The Lone Badger posted:Projeckt 41501 has a Gunscore of 168. The Vodka class has a Gunscore of 152. As such I support the adoption of Projekt 41501. It's unfortunately not a novel design, though, since it's based off a prior class.
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May 25, 2019 18:21
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Gunscores: Blyat - 216 Ekaterina Velikaya - 202 Catharine the Great - 180 Vladivostok - 170 Funnelship - 168 Proyekt 41501 - 168 (BUT DERIVATIVE, THE KNAVE!) Vodka - 152 habeasdorkus fucked around with this message at 18:36 on May 25, 2019 |
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May 25, 2019 18:24
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habeasdorkus posted:Your picture isn't showing, but here it is. Thanks. As a Grog gamer I am confused by the internet.
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May 25, 2019 18:36
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No worries! I edited my post, too, for the important purpose of comparing GUNZ.
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May 25, 2019 18:39
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 Hedlund & Son Fine Ship Models and Naval Architecture Co. is world famous for their high-quality model fighting ships. Their exacting attention to detail has not only made their models a hit among Europe's stay-at-home sons and divorced fathers, but has also given them an unmatched knowledge of modern warship design. Barred access to design contests in other countries due to technicalities (such as an utter lack of formal education and no experience in building real ships), they have been allowed entry due to the personal recommendation of Grand Duke George Alexandrovich. Hedlund & Son are pleased to present the Model 1901.  She bristles with four 12-inch guns and eighteen 7-inchers -- when she is completed she will be the most heavily armed Russian battleship in the world. Her armor is sufficient to grant her immunity to her own guns from less than 5000 yards, assuming nothing shoots her in her secondaries or extended belt. We have had to make some minor compromises to deliver such a well-armed and armored fighting ship. First, she makes a middling 19 knots, but this is hardly an issue as this is the speed of the battle line as a whole. Second, she has no tertiary guns. It is assumed that a single hit by just one of her secondary guns should be sufficient to knock out any marauding torpedo boat. Last, you may note that she has no torpedoes. Hedlund Sr. could not in good conscious befoul the future flagship of the Russian navy with those underhanded British inventions. When you look at the Model 1901, you look at the future. We have eliminated superfluous elements, such as lifeboats and rails, making sum fucked around with this message at 20:49 on May 25, 2019 |
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Infidelicious posted:Luchovsky, Oleg, Luchovsky and Zakarov Shipwrights present a bold new idea for the future of Naval Warfare. Suck it up Britain. This is the new Dreadnought class that will revolutionise battleship design.
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Дисконтные ловушки Ивана is an new firm with a simple philosophy. It doesn't matter how fancy your ship is - it is how many you have. Our Michael Alexandrovich design exemplifies this philosophy. With primary armor that is immune to our largest shipboard cannon, the design is as robust as you could want. Sure, the guns aren't as big as some of the other submissions, but there's four torpedo tubes - which are more important anyway. Sure, you can't sail one very far - but why would we do that? Madness, I say. Not enough secondary guns? It is enough to keep the little fish away, and that's what matters. All you need to look at is the price tag! Just look at that beautiful low price - you could build three to two compared to any competing design! For some designs, you can easily manage 2:1, and you wind up with more guns that way!
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Grey Hunter posted:Yeah, these things are not about competent ship design, their about sending me into battle with a fleet of clown cars. Look at it this way. You can get them sunk and get new designs!
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May 26, 2019 04:27
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I didn't realize until I saw these submissions that the game would actually allow you to build overweight ships.
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May 26, 2019 04:39
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It is limited, but you can sometimes go a few tons over.
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May 26, 2019 04:52
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You can definitely build overweight ships to a certain extent. They're less stable and prone to having problems in heavy seas, of course.
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May 26, 2019 05:00
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Okay! Time to vote for your favorite submission! could the submitter link their design files, just so I don't have to rebuild and make a terrible mistake. Blyat Catharine the Great Ekaterina Velikaya Funnelship H&S Battleship 1901 Proyekt Vladivostok Vodka 
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May 26, 2019 05:04
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I support the Blyat class. It has many many guns and the speed to bring them swiftly to the enemy, these are things I approve of.
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May 26, 2019 05:13
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I like big guns, but I also don't like spending a lot of money this early. That's why my vote goes to the cheapest ship with 12 inch guns which - if I did not make a mistake looking over all of the proposals - is the Catharine the Great.
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Grey Hunter posted:Okay! Time to vote for your favorite submission! could the submitter link their design files, just so I don't have to rebuild and make a terrible mistake. Vote for Vodka (no Strawpoll?) Veloxyll fucked around with this message at 05:22 on May 26, 2019 |
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May 26, 2019 05:18
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The Vladivostok file is here: https://ufile.io/hjr5wtuq
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Great Cathy is here- https://www.mediafire.com/file/txq6rgf3thri7me/CtGBB.rar/file Never played with the profile image generator, but have attempt #1  And since I can't/won't vote for my own- Vodka. Turns out the 'B' stands for 'budget'. Also 'boondoggle'.
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May 26, 2019 05:47
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Feeling similarly bound not to vote for myself, I vote for the Blyat
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May 26, 2019 05:53
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Here's the Vodka My quick assessment of the submissions, as a relatively new player: This early in the game, armor is at an advantage over guns. Every ship submitted has armor that should be proof against current naval guns, so heavier armor mostly serves as future proofing. Torpedoes are also atrociously bad right now, but unlike guns ships can upgrade torpedoes as tech improves so they're more of a threat. Blyat: Extremely, expensively fast for a battleship with current technology, and would have to slow down to launch torpedoes. It has fewer main guns but more anti-destroyer secondaries, but with torpedoes being such a threat that's not unreasonable. Reduced range and accommodations means it will be pretty much confined to our home region. Catherine the Great: Similar but slightly lighter armaments to the Blyat, while smaller, slower and cheaper, and with better range. Ekaterina Velikaya: Big, heavy armor, and lots of big guns. Will be a great design against light and not particularly well armored heavy cruisers, will get torpedoed hilariously by destroyers if not heavily screened. Funnelship: Big and with lots of anti-destroyer guns, which might save it from getting torpedoed. Has long range which is nice I guess but a battleship is a bit big for commerce raiding. H&S Battleship: Similar to the Ekaterina but no anti-destroyer weapons at all. Hilariously vulnerable to torpedoes. Proyekt: Very heavily armored, which could give it a degree of future proofing as guns get better. Reasonably balanced weapons loadout. Vladivostok: Another cramped accommodation ship, which will mostly limit it to defending the homeland. Secondary guns are also a bit heavier, focusing more on cruisers than destroyers. Vodka: This was a joke, please don't vote for it. Michael Alexandrovich: Not in the list, did it get disqualified? Very small, lightly armed and armored (though still enough armor to block current guns), short range and cramped accomodations. Extremely cheap, which will make it less of a loss when it (like all battleships) inevitably gets torpedoed. I'm not a fan of short range battleships, so I'm going to vote for the Catherine the Great as a well rounded battleship that's also the cheapest option with good range that isn't the Vodka.
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Here's the H&S 1901. In the spirit of not voting for my own design, I vote for the Vladivostok.
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May 26, 2019 06:07
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I vote Blyat
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May 26, 2019 06:09
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Proyekt 41501 data Since people aren't voting for their own submissions, I'll follow suit and vote for Catherine the Great.
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May 26, 2019 06:35
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Deptfordx posted:Suck it up Britain. This is the new Dreadnought class that will revolutionise battleship design. Blyat!
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Voting Blyat
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Pirate Radar posted:You can definitely build overweight ships to a certain extent. They're less stable and prone to having problems in heavy seas, of course. They also sink from fewer hits -- the flotation damage bar is shorter.
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May 26, 2019 10:35
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1 vote for the Blyat
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May 26, 2019 12:19
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I vote for Ekaterina Velikaya because I believe it will let us wave harder.
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The Lone Badger posted:Projeckt 41501 has a Gunscore of 168. The Vodka class has a Gunscore of 152. As such I support the adoption of Projekt 41501. One thing about RtW 2 is that all ship designs have to go through a design study. This takes several montgs and costs several million rubles. We're talking a destroyers' worth of money here or more. Only then can the ship be laid down and built. But...designs bases on pre-existing designs have shorter and cheaper design study cycles. If we go with the Proyect 41501 classb we'll save money we can use later ... when we have actually useful tech. Proyect
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