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Rhyno posted:Vague-ish details/update
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ilkhan posted:Believe all women! This is a lovely thing to say sarcastically. Sexual assault and rape is common and is terrible. We absolutely need to take allegations seriously and taking this attitude to the subject in general is straight up victim blaming. The cases where reports are filed falsely are often very obvious (like this one) and fall apart after like 5 minutes of scrutiny. This person should absolutely get hammered for making a false police report, but don't use that as an excuse to be lovely to victims.
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May 25, 2019 18:51
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KillHour posted:This is a lovely thing to say sarcastically. Sexual assault and rape is common and is terrible. We absolutely need to take allegations seriously and taking this attitude to the subject in general is straight up victim blaming. The cases where reports are filed falsely are often very obvious (like this one) and fall apart after like 5 minutes of scrutiny. It's a slippery slope tho when you start assuming everyone is guilty when blamed. If Rhyno's friend didn't have all the proof he does, he'd be hosed just because it wasn't something obvious like being out of the country? That's not good either.
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May 25, 2019 18:59
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The assumption is that the defendant is innocent until proven otherwise, beyond reasonable doubt, in a court of law etc. etc. That's the way it's supposed to be, anyhow. Whether or not it's "very often" that false allegations are readily proven false, there are still too many (read: non-zero) innocent people whose lives have been drastically negatively affected because of a false accusation, resulting in prison, sex offender registry, societal exile, and so forth, due to a predisposition to convict for sexual assault based primarily on victim testimony even with flimsy or nonexistent physical evidence. ilkahn is still a bit of a dick for the "hot take", but the point is there. And this is SA; as much as we've moved forward in being more inclusive and understanding while speaking in earnest, there's still gonna be that kind of thing. Beach Bum fucked around with this message at 19:10 on May 25, 2019 |
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May 25, 2019 19:03
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KillHour posted:This is a lovely thing to say sarcastically. Sexual assault and rape is common and is terrible. We absolutely need to take allegations seriously and taking this attitude to the subject in general is straight up victim blaming. The cases where reports are filed falsely are often very obvious (like this one) and fall apart after like 5 minutes of scrutiny.
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May 25, 2019 19:05
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Somebody bashed in the door lock to get into my already unlocked truck that has absolutely nothing in it but seats and tarps  Idiotic loving junkies. I'm guessing they were planning on stealing it again and couldn't figure out how to start it.
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May 25, 2019 19:09
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You need a robot arm with pepperspray or something. Isn't that thing a contractor/fleet vehicle special? What is it about it that makes it such a magnet for fuckery?
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May 25, 2019 19:11
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Beach Bum posted:You need a robot arm with pepperspray or something. Isn't that thing a contractor/fleet vehicle special? What is it about it that makes it such a magnet for fuckery? I have no loving clue, it's a piece of poo poo. It's not even in the loving top 10 list   it's a 99 2wd, nowhere on there when they stole it the last time, they creased the door prying the door handle off, it was unlocked then too, so i'm guessing it was the same folks. Powershift fucked around with this message at 19:17 on May 25, 2019 |
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May 25, 2019 19:14
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ilkhan posted:It absolutely is terrible. Allegations absolutely need to be investigated. And that investigation needs to start with "Lets investigate and find out if it happened?" rather than "This person has ovaries and a vagina therefore it happened and that's the end of the story". Last I knew women's bodies make estrogen, not truth serum. Nor lie serum for that matter. Which is why we investigate *before* we prosecute. The issue is that there is a huge social stigma against rape victims. The "believe all women" slogan is to say "take these allegations seriously" not "don't have an investigation." There's a long history of this stuff being swept under the carpet and we just saw a high profile example of that attitude in the Kavanaugh hearings. "Innocent until proven guilty" doesn't mean "assume the woman is lying," but a lot of sexist assholes use that language to mean that. I'm not saying you're trying to associate with those people, but your words mimic theirs and you should be aware of the baggage and implications those words carry. The police should take the allegations seriously and bring the guy in for questioning. If his story is as bullet proof as he says, it should be pretty open and shut. But the important part is that the allegations should always be taken seriously and not dismissed out of hand.
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May 25, 2019 19:18
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ilkhan posted:Sucks for him. I hope she gets nailed with filing a false police report, but we all know that won't happen. Believe all women! lol I knew who posted this before I read the name
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May 25, 2019 19:27
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I leave my doors unlocked because I'm more afraid of my soft top being slashed than them stealing my $50 head unit or the $30 emergency toolkit in my gloveboxKillHour posted:The issue is that there is a huge social stigma against rape victims. The "believe all women" slogan is to say "take these allegations seriously" not "don't have an investigation." There's a long history of this stuff being swept under the carpet and we just saw a high profile example of that attitude in the Kavanaugh hearings. "Innocent until proven guilty" doesn't mean "assume the woman is lying," but a lot of sexist assholes use that language to mean that. I'm not saying you're trying to associate with those people, but your words mimic theirs and you should be aware of the baggage and implications those words carry. That's the important part, he is presumed innocent. Since he was directly accused, it's 100% reasonable to question him and would be irresponsible to not question him. If he was immediately charged, then there's a problem
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May 25, 2019 19:43
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There's also a horrifically low conviction rate of rape cases, so it's not like there's a flood of men being railroaded on false accusations when rape & sexual assault goes largely unpunished.
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May 25, 2019 19:44
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The Door Frame posted:If he was immediately charged, then there's a problem This didn't happen and there is no reason to believe it will happen, so ilkhan handwringing about it is just an excuse to be sexist and lovely. E: Sorry about your truck, Powershift. KillHour fucked around with this message at 19:56 on May 25, 2019 |
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May 25, 2019 19:50
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Rhyno posted:Vague-ish details/update The hell they will. He's got a two day head start on them, which is more than he needs. He's got friends in every town and village from here to the Sudan, he speaks a dozen languages, knows every local custom, he'll blend in, disappear, you'll never see him again. With any luck, he's got a signed confession already. y'all still believe this BS?
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May 25, 2019 19:59
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KillHour posted:The issue is that there is a huge social stigma against rape victims. The "believe all women" slogan is to say "take these allegations seriously" not "don't have an investigation." There's a long history of this stuff being swept under the carpet and we just saw a high profile example of that attitude in the Kavanaugh hearings. "Innocent until proven guilty" doesn't mean "assume the woman is lying," but a lot of sexist assholes use that language to mean that. I'm not saying you're trying to associate with those people, but your words mimic theirs and you should be aware of the baggage and implications those words carry.
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May 25, 2019 20:05
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The Door Frame posted:That's the important part, he is presumed innocent. Since he was directly accused, it's 100% reasonable to question him and would be irresponsible to not question him. If he was immediately charged, then there's a problem Tbh it would be dumb to question him at all about anything other than charging her with a false report. And i would be insulted if they picked me up at the airport after arriving home from across the pond, obviously having nothing to do with the accusation.
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May 25, 2019 20:08
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Applebees Appetizer posted:Tbh it would be dumb to question him at all about anything other than charging her with a false report. And i would be insulted if they picked me up at the airport after arriving home from across the pond, obviously having nothing to do with the accusation. When I say questioning, I mean more like a detective calling and saying "we'd like you to come down to the station and talk" and less of the "detained and questioned" kind of thing. I know which is far more common, but I still hope it's the former
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May 25, 2019 20:21
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Someone else asked him why he thinks they'd be waiting for him at the airport if they dont know that he's coming home early. That's actually a good point. Unless his lawyer has made initial contact they probably dont even know he's out of the country yet. This isnt even the first false assault accusation I've been in orbit of. Last year a very close friend of mine was accused by his estranged wife of throwing her down a flight of stairs and prior to that she said he tried kicking her front door in. Both times he wasnt in the state. Pretty sure I posted about that one when it was going on. If anyone has any insight into why I am a magnet for other people's bullshit I'd love to hear it. I dont even go out anymore. I haven't even made a new friend in years.
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May 25, 2019 20:36
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I can probably go one better here... One of my exes had a sleep rape fetish which I never indulged because that poo poo's too loving weird for me but this is an important thing to note for what follows. On occasion I go on holidays with my lady friends because sometimes I want to lay by a pool in the sunshine and get trashed and they're very good at both. The last time I went on one it was all pre-arranged before I met the girl I was seeing. Anyway, I go on this holiday, spend most of my time adding vodka to the slushy machine and generally getting really hot before cooling off in the pool. When I return all is well. Several months later I break up with my girlfriend and she goes about messaging quite a lot of my friends, mostly the women, talking about how she new I was sleeping with them all (which in itself is hilarious). Anyway, she messages one of the girls I went on holiday with, the one who is married. And says that I raped her. The friend I was on holiday with. In her sleep. Because that's what I do. "My friend was like riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, yeah, of course, I probably would've woken up..." *block* Some women are really loving weird.
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May 25, 2019 20:44
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Rhyno posted:Someone else asked him why he thinks they'd be waiting for him at the airport if they dont know that he's coming home early. That's actually a good point. Unless his lawyer has made initial contact they probably dont even know he's out of the country yet. It's because anyone that stays in Fort Wayne is not going to ever contribute anything. Fort Wayne is nothing but an insurance company office space, GM plant and sadness. No offense, it's got a nice make believe suburbia, but everyone that I know that amounted to anything from High School moved out long ago. Those that stayed are universally terrible and/or bad people that haven't amounted to anything, because there's no place to move upwards in Ft. Wayne. You got lucky.
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May 25, 2019 20:47
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That's a pretty good point but I'm friends with Cat Terrorist, who doesnt even live on this continent and has the worst person ever. Seriously though, a lot has changed here. It isnt the hopeless suck hole it used to be.
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May 25, 2019 21:03
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I had the new wheels and tires mounted on the Avalon at 11:00AM. I wasn't able to drive it properly until almost 2:00PM. They bolted up fine with no clearance issues with the suspension. Wanna guess what the issue was? The hub of the wheel was interfering with the brake caliper bracket by about 3mm. I ended up grinding some of the bracket, then doing a couple drive cycles to let it self-machine. It's at a point of the wheel where there's a huge amount of stock, so I'm not worried about removing a couple mm, but god drat, what a pain in the rear end. Looks really good now, though.
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May 25, 2019 21:09
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Never thought I'd witness a man draw his last breath, nor see my father cry. RIP, Grandpa.
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May 25, 2019 21:37
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Dagen H posted:Never thought I'd witness a man draw his last breath, nor see my father cry. RIP, Grandpa. Those are tough days. Goondolences. 
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May 25, 2019 21:56
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He was an amazing man. His parents emigrated from Italy to Quebec in the 1920s, and he was fluent in Italian, French, and English. Was a member of the Sheet Metal Workers International Association for over 75 years (began his apprenticeship at age 14). Moved to Akron and then Mansfield, where he began a whirlwind romance with newly-widowed Grandma, and married her in '78. Was tirelessly devoted to her until her death in 2012. He took me in as his own, but the care he gave her meant more to me than anything (Dad feels the same way, hence the tears). He wasn't my real grandfather, but for over 40 years, he was Grandpa to me. E: He also served in the RCAF at the tail end of WWII. Dagen H fucked around with this message at 22:23 on May 25, 2019 |
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May 25, 2019 22:18
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Condolences, Dagen. It sounds like he lived a long and fulfilling life.
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May 25, 2019 22:27
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He was felled by a stroke last January, and lived out his days in a nursing home. He did quite well for a while (aside from dementia and hearing loss setting in), but went downhill fast the last couple weeks. It's soul-crushing to hear someone ask a nurse to "please help me die".Kazinsal posted:Condolences, Dagen. It sounds like he lived a long and fulfilling life. He was 4 months shy of his 91st birthday, and had no regrets.
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May 25, 2019 22:46
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Rhyno posted:That's a pretty good point but I'm friends with Cat Terrorist, who doesnt even live on this continent and has the worst person ever. Confirmed
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May 25, 2019 23:32
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Otherwise today Im in Murderers Gully at a MTB flow section photographing a Pro MTB event. Not a bad way to spend a late Autumn morning
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May 25, 2019 23:39
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meatpimp posted:It's because anyone that stays in Fort Wayne is not going to ever contribute anything. Fort Wayne is nothing but an insurance company office space, GM plant and sadness. No offense, it's got a nice make believe suburbia, but everyone that I know that amounted to anything from High School moved out long ago. Those that stayed are universally terrible and/or bad people that haven't amounted to anything, because there's no place to move upwards in Ft. Wayne. You got lucky. Pretty sure the same could be said about anywhere in Indiana. Bloomington might be a possible exception.
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May 26, 2019 00:16
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Dagen H posted:He was an amazing man. His parents emigrated from Italy to Quebec in the 1920s, and he was fluent in Italian, French, and English. Was a member of the Sheet Metal Workers International Association for over 75 years (began his apprenticeship at age 14). Moved to Akron and then Mansfield, where he began a whirlwind romance with newly-widowed Grandma, and married her in '78. Was tirelessly devoted to her until her death in 2012. He took me in as his own, but the care he gave her meant more to me than anything (Dad feels the same way, hence the tears). He wasn't my real grandfather, but for over 40 years, he was Grandpa to me. RIP. Sounds like a hell of a life. I'm sorry to hear.
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May 26, 2019 01:29
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meatpimp posted:It's because anyone that stays in Fort Wayne is not going to ever contribute anything. Fort Wayne is nothing but an insurance company office space, GM plant and sadness. No offense, it's got a nice make believe suburbia, but everyone that I know that amounted to anything from High School moved out long ago. Those that stayed are universally terrible and/or bad people that haven't amounted to anything, because there's no place to move upwards in Ft. Wayne. You got lucky. I'm pretty sure the same could be said of the entire Mid-west region. Just let the robots take over farming and leave the rest of the land as a nature preserve or something.
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May 26, 2019 01:39
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ExplodingSims posted:I'm pretty sure the same could be said of the entire Mid-west region. You know the "Midwest" includes the entire Great Lakes region, including Chicago, Detroit and Cleveland, right?
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I'll give you Chicago and Detroit. But the point still stands for Cleveland 
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May 26, 2019 02:14
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ExplodingSims posted:But the point still stands for Cleveland Indeed.
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May 26, 2019 02:27
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Show of hands of people who have actually been to Cleveland.
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May 26, 2019 02:40
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I'm from Buffalo and I don't get the Cleveland hate. It's not an amazing city, but it's perfectly fine.
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May 26, 2019 02:55
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A good chunk of my dad's family lives in Cleveland and they're the kind of people meatpimp described. I dunno, I'm sure Cleveland is a fine place, but the few times I've visited, it just seemed kinda boring.
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May 26, 2019 02:59
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Dagen H posted:Never thought I'd witness a man draw his last breath, nor see my father cry. RIP, Grandpa. Condolences, sounds like he was one hell of a man. I lost my last living grandparent two weeks ago. One week she's driving school bus, at 90, an a week later she was gone. Hit us all really hard. Drove for 49 drat years with no accidents, they had her bus at the funeral and we all did a lap of the area.
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I'm from a city in the midwest that isn't utter poo poo, but they also have military industry, good jobs in food manufacturing, and multiple colleges and stuff there. Also largely democrat so instead of just stealing the tax money they use it on improving the place, I dunno if that matters or not, I guess maybe in another 60 years we'll see if trickle-down works or not, the lucky part is the planet will be dead in 40 so no one will ever know! Also women who claim rape are definitely lying - a good opinion
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