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Bohemian Nights posted:
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# ? May 25, 2019 19:56 |
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# ? May 29, 2024 15:25 |
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I'm guessing its supposed to be some jab at how may was "clinging onto power" but the star clearly has no honour, so who knows
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# ? May 25, 2019 20:06 |
MikeJF posted:I mean it kinda fits Geordi had a Galaxy. (And a Galaxy that's been kept up-to-date is still gonna be a top-tier ship in 20 years, how long did Excelsiors last for? And they'll still have a role Sovereigns can't fill for a bunch of things, given it's like twice the size.) Galaxy is cool, though my fave's always been the Connie refit from Treks I-VI...which also never got seen in any of the shows, come to think of it. That's neither here nor there, though. It was the fact that even when it would have made sense to see a Sov, like that ep, all the huge DS9 battles, that time when the Prometheus is being stolen and the Doctor has to steal it back, or even in the far future Enterprise ep where the Enterprise -J is there along with other older ships (like an Akira and a Prometheus) there's no Sovereign. Which is just a shame, really. I mean at least the Defiant showed up in First Contact, so it ins't as bad as the Netflix heroes getting locked outta the MCU films, but it still sucks.
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# ? May 25, 2019 22:18 |
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jng2058 posted:Galaxy is cool, though my fave's always been the Connie refit from Treks I-VI...which also never got seen in any of the shows, come to think of it. If Bridge Commander is any indication the Sovereign is a nice design on paper but in practice it is horrendously power-inefficient and has more technical gremlins than the Defiant. Speaking of future designs though I did like the USS Rhode Island from the Endgame future being a refit of the Nova class.
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# ? May 25, 2019 22:28 |
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jng2058 posted:Galaxy is cool, though my fave's always been the Connie refit from Treks I-VI...which also never got seen in any of the shows, come to think of it.
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# ? May 25, 2019 22:44 |
McSpanky posted:Maybe Vulcan genes just express their phenotype much more strongly over the human genes, leading to a genetic hybrid that is nevertheless a biologically Vulcan entity in most practical respects. After all, Simon Tarses had a Romulan grandfather yet still looked about as Vulcan as Spock. Simon Tarses and that guy who shot himself in the foot with a phaser were oddly open and at peach with their fuckups. "I LIED on my starfleet application. I am WORSE THAN GARBAGE and UNTRUSTWORTHY." "I am a COWARD. I VIOLATED MY OATH. I deserve a BATLEH TO THE HEAD." Like it's very Roddenbery to see people talk like that.
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# ? May 25, 2019 22:48 |
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Just going to leave this here: Real Lawyer Reacts to Star Trek TNG Measure of a Man
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# ? May 25, 2019 23:50 |
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The_Other posted:Just going to leave this here: This guy loving sucks I hate his stupid 80s villain look and his dumb industry and his stupid loving inability to even follow the case he's trying to critique Like bud this case is about data's sentience, not his humanity, you dumb fuckin stupid rear end face rear end lawyer rear end butthead
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# ? May 25, 2019 23:54 |
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Lawyer from 1650 reacts to the OJ trial
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# ? May 26, 2019 01:36 |
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Whalley posted:This guy loving sucks I hate his stupid 80s villain look and his dumb industry and his stupid loving inability to even follow the case he's trying to critique Are you arguing semantics to explain why you hate lawyers?
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# ? May 26, 2019 01:37 |
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Cat Hatter posted:Are you arguing semantics to explain why you hate lawyers? Haven't watched the video, but that distinction is at the heart of the episode
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# ? May 26, 2019 01:45 |
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jng2058 posted:Galaxy is cool, though my fave's always been the Connie refit from Treks I-VI...which also never got seen in any of the shows, come to think of it. The old Trek EU books were pretty good about all agreeing on some details, and one made sense: The E-E was only the second Sovereign class ever built. The only other one that was around in the Dominion War, the USS Sovereign, the books all ran with being Admiral Nechayev's flagship. They had the Prometheus be a similar deal. There's the prototype, and then the USS Cerberus that was Admiral Ross's flagship, and that's about it for that class that got built during the war itself.
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# ? May 26, 2019 01:48 |
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Whalley posted:This guy loving sucks I hate his stupid 80s villain look and his dumb industry and his stupid loving inability to even follow the case he's trying to critique it's about his inalienable human rights
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# ? May 26, 2019 01:51 |
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Automatic Slim posted:Dallas and Dynasty had season cliffhangers long before. It took years for Sam Malone to get his bar back. "Trust me, I know what I'm doing." *tries to defuse the nuke but accidentally sets it off and San Francisco disappears under a mushroom cloud*
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# ? May 26, 2019 01:55 |
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cheetah7071 posted:Haven't watched the video, but that distinction is at the heart of the episode The distinction between if Data is sentient or has humanity? Aside from there being a lot of overlap between humans and sentient beings, sentience isn't specifically mentioned until Picard's closing argument and the episode is titled "Measure of a Man"
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# ? May 26, 2019 02:34 |
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Nodosaur posted:They're generally the fanboy equivalents of old men yelling at clouds that are mad at things not being like when they were kids. They're also pretty misogynistic and generally just not funny. Whatever valid criticisms there are of Discovery (and there are many) I'm not really interested in seeing them through their eyes. 100% false. There's so much false information in this post I feel like you have an agenda.
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# ? May 26, 2019 02:55 |
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Tighclops posted:DS9 blew up a whole galaxy glass like a week after TNG ended and they still got letters from idiots thinking they blew up the Enterprise A Galaxy class ship blew up in TNG too. Then the Enterprise blew up multiple times sometimes multiple times in the same episode!
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# ? May 26, 2019 02:59 |
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Cat Hatter posted:The distinction between if Data is sentient or has humanity? Aside from there being a lot of overlap between humans and sentient beings, sentience isn't specifically mentioned until Picard's closing argument and the episode is titled "Measure of a Man" Riker's argument is "Data isn't a biological human(oid)" and Picard's counterargument sidesteps that by saying it isn't relevant
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# ? May 26, 2019 03:01 |
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I said come in! posted:A Galaxy class ship blew up in TNG too. One of my first memories of TNG when I was a kid was catching bits and pieces of "Cause and Effect" on a staticy 15 inch tv in a hospital waiting room when it first aired. I was so confused that they literally killed the entire cast and more confused as to why the network kept replaying their destruction over and over again.
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# ? May 26, 2019 03:03 |
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Data is a real person and I am very protective of him.
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# ? May 26, 2019 03:04 |
lovely Wizard posted:100% false. There's so much false information in this post I feel like you have an agenda. why did you vote for trump Whalley posted:This guy loving sucks I hate his stupid 80s villain look and his dumb industry and his stupid loving inability to even follow the case he's trying to critique it was interesting at first and got repeatedly boring and stupid. ACTUALLY IF THIS WAS A COURT OF US LAW, TYRION WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO BLAH BLAH BLAH
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# ? May 26, 2019 04:18 |
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Whalley posted:Like bud this case is about data's sentience, not his humanity, you dumb fuckin stupid rear end face rear end lawyer rear end butthead He's not approaching it from a question of whether he agrees with the case or not. He's concerned with advocacy in the more general sense. He's making an educational youtube show about law for people interested in law and beginner law students and is using trial examples from popular culture to help teach the concepts used in modern US jurisprudence.
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# ? May 26, 2019 04:40 |
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cheetah7071 posted:Riker's argument is "Data isn't a biological human(oid)" and Picard's counterargument sidesteps that by saying it isn't relevant Riker argues that data is a machine made by a man, Picard counters by saying it isn't relevant by pointing out that so are humans. Data's sentience and humanity are treated synonymously throughout the episode the way Spock's emotions were treated as his humanity in TOS.
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# ? May 26, 2019 04:46 |
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jng2058 posted:Galaxy is cool, though my fave's always been the Connie refit from Treks I-VI...which also never got seen in any of the shows, come to think of it. The movie Connie model was apparently a pain in the rear end to work with - it was bigger and heavier than any of the other studio models, it had internal lights that kept burning out, it had a reflective surface that looked cool as hell when lit perfectly and like garbage when it wasn't... so they avoided using it whenever possible. Both the Stargazer and the Bozeman were originally going to be refit-Connies, but the effects guys apparently found it easier to make new models for them than try and work with the existing one.
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# ? May 26, 2019 05:12 |
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How hard is it for Starfleet to make a ship, though? They have literal magic machines to make parts on demand, instantly put them in the worksite, then move them around the site without having to touch them.
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# ? May 26, 2019 12:11 |
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The law guy said that TNG did a great job with making the court scene realistic so I don't get the hate. He gave GOT Tyrion's court scene a pretty bad grade though that was meant to be a phony trial.
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# ? May 26, 2019 13:22 |
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Hope he does The Drumhead and then that one where Worf is on trial
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# ? May 26, 2019 13:55 |
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:Hope he does The Drumhead and then that one where Worf is on trial ISN'T. IT. POSSIBLE?
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# ? May 26, 2019 14:02 |
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:Hope he does The Drumhead and then that one where Worf is on trial And then Devil's Due. "The advocate will refrain from making her opponent disappear."
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# ? May 26, 2019 15:30 |
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I enjoy the silly lawyer man's videos even though he relates everything to US law, and wish he would do another Phoenix Wright one. I want to hear him talking about the precedent in American case law for hearing the testimony of ghosts.
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# ? May 26, 2019 15:38 |
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marktheando posted:I enjoy the silly lawyer man's videos even though he relates everything to US law, and wish he would do another Phoenix Wright one. I want to hear him talking about the precedent in American case law for hearing the testimony of ghosts. I want a realism critique of this landmark trial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPRp0VT9PxA
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# ? May 26, 2019 15:50 |
marktheando posted:I enjoy the silly lawyer man's videos even though he relates everything to US law, and wish he would do another Phoenix Wright one. I want to hear him talking about the precedent in American case law for hearing the testimony of ghosts. The whole point is to make amusing teaching aids for American lawyers in training, so it is always going come back to American law, even when it doesn't make sense. Like Westerosi law ain't built on the same foundations as American law, and even if Starfleet's military code of justice does resemble American law there's hundreds of years and several intervening nations (United Earth, Coalition of Planets, and then the Federation) to say nothing how integrating the Vulcan, Andorian, and Tellerite legal systems at the Coalition and Federation stages would have changed Starfleet's legal codes. But I find his analysis interesting nevertheless and quite enjoy his breakdowns, whether they're particularly relevant or not.
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# ? May 26, 2019 15:59 |
jng2058 posted:The whole point is to make amusing teaching aids for American lawyers in training, so it is always going come back to American law, even when it doesn't make sense. Like Westerosi law ain't built on the same foundations as American law, and even if Starfleet's military code of justice does resemble American law there's hundreds of years and several intervening nations (United Earth, Coalition of Planets, and then the Federation) to say nothing how integrating the Vulcan, Andorian, and Tellerite legal systems at the Coalition and Federation stages would have changed Starfleet's legal codes. all of those other alien legal systems were lame and for nerds. HUMANITY FOREVER!
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# ? May 26, 2019 16:26 |
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Astroman posted:The funniest thing about all that is in all my years of watching syndicated repeats in the 80s and 90s, they never actually showed any series out of order that I can recall. It was just easier to run them as they were. My station would do a thing where they reran TNG/DS9 S1-S7, and then after season 7 they'd do a couple theme weeks. Five ~time travel!~ eps, then alternate universes, Borg, stuff like that.
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# ? May 26, 2019 16:45 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rrqj7rq43o
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# ? May 26, 2019 17:04 |
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Powered Descent posted:I want a realism critique of this landmark trial: I really wish the scene ended with the guy asking for a beam up and then just standing there
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# ? May 26, 2019 18:23 |
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Angry_Ed posted:If Bridge Commander is any indication the Sovereign is a nice design on paper but in practice it is horrendously power-inefficient and has more technical gremlins than the Defiant. The Sovereign in Bridge Commander was a prototype, though.
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# ? May 26, 2019 21:37 |
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Angry_Ed posted:If Bridge Commander is any indication the Sovereign is a nice design on paper but in practice it is horrendously power-inefficient and has more technical gremlins than the Defiant. I just dredged my copy of Bridge Commander out of storage, so that’s a fun time coming soon. Also, I feel like if Voyager has been a Nova Class ship, I’d be a lot kinder to the series as a whole. The Intrepid class is fugly as sin. Goddamn space trowel with tiny nacelles.
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# ? May 26, 2019 22:46 |
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The_Doctor posted:Also, I feel like if Voyager has been a Nova Class ship, I’d be a lot kinder to the series as a whole. The Intrepid class is fugly as sin. Goddamn space trowel with tiny nacelles. Although I thought that the Future Nova from endgame was way better looking than the original one. Just smoooooooth it out MikeJF fucked around with this message at 01:21 on May 27, 2019 |
# ? May 27, 2019 01:07 |
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# ? May 29, 2024 15:25 |
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I started to say that Voyager would look better with a definable engineering section and larger nacelles that rise above the saucer, but that’s literally the Nova class. Voyager really is hideous
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# ? May 27, 2019 01:12 |