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Flikken posted:Wtf does a kiwi need with armored steel? It's a step up from the last tank we built
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Jaguars! posted:It's a step up from the last tank we built loving god drat
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Idea: stop construction of the wall by encouraging Trump to demand more expensive features. "It needs to be painted flat black with gold leaf trim, have the name TRUMP painted on it, and laser cannons!"
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BigDave posted:Idea: stop construction of the wall by encouraging Trump to demand more expensive features. No, just tell him it'd look better in stainless. e: It's a dumb enough plan to appeal to his ego it might work.
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Hexyflexy posted:I live where Threads was filmed. Makes all the specialist steels for our nuclear reactors and various weapons (and a bunch of yours). Downside, it's on the target list, upside, I can phone up a guy down the foundry and get a couple of tons of battleship plate armour cheap. We are almost neighbours - I live at what used to be RAF Finningley which was nuked in Threads (and probably still sits on a target list due to the long runway).
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BigDave posted:
What dumbfuck made that map and didn't include Mount Weather? What, they're just assuming a notional nuclear adversary isn't going to *try* to take out the backup sites?
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Hexyflexy posted:No, just tell him it'd look better in stainless. "I'm sorry Mr. President, we can't build the wall yet." "WHY NOT?!" "It doesn't look badass enough." "...You have my attention. What do you need to make this the best wall ever?" "Holograms, Mr. President. Holograms and robots, every ten feet." "loving do it!"
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Also Raven Rock is a secondary target for some reason.
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pantslesswithwolves posted:I work within a quarter mile of the White House and a mile of USNO and Jarvanka’s residence. Vas is gonna get the canned sunshine about a half second before me. I live a few blocks from a Navy base in San Diego. Depending on who launches I'll be in ashes before all of you.
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Miami is already 2ft from the sun anyways, I don't see how cracking open a can of sunshine here can make it much hotter.
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:ill take a breast man Password?
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EBB posted:Password? Hunter42 (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Im just close enough to the state capitol that it will be fallout that gets me. The survivors will envy the dead and all that.
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BigDave posted:
WTF is in Orlando still of strategic importance to warrant nuking in at a 500 warhead level? The navy base closed like 25 years ago.
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Nystral posted:WTF is in Orlando still of strategic importance to warrant nuking in at a 500 warhead level? The navy base closed like 25 years ago. IIRC, that list was based on the 1991 update of what what we expected the Soviets to do, so that's 28 years ago.
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At least I can die happy when the nuclear fire comes, knowing that Lynchburg has been wiped off the map.
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Wait, is that supposed to be 500/2000 per site? Because that's probably well above what the soviets had if that's per site. They peaked about what, 14k nukes?
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Hremsfeld posted:IIRC, that list was based on the 1991 update of what what we expected the Soviets to do, so that's 28 years ago. Some of those targets don't make sense for 1991 either. What's that one dot at the Canadain-Washington-Idaho border? And they assigned a single warhead to Boise but couldn't think to put Mountain Home on the target list?
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Wait, is that supposed to be 500/2000 per site? Because that's probably well above what the soviets had if that's per site. They peaked about what, 14k nukes? 500/2000 total.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Wait, is that supposed to be 500/2000 per site? Because that's probably well above what the soviets had if that's per site. They peaked about what, 14k nukes? It’s total in a full strike. It’s also also a bit weird, in the 2000 warhead strike, if I was the soviet nuke commander I wouldn’t bother hitting the American silos with all those warheads at all - it’s a given they’re expended, and in WW3, effectively forever. I’d hit absolutely everything else 10 times. Because, gently caress it.
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Nystral posted:WTF is in Orlando still of strategic importance to warrant nuking in at a 500 warhead level? The navy base closed like 25 years ago. Probably guaranteed to get a least one HVT on vacation at Disney World.
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BigDave posted:What's that one dot at the Canadain-Washington-Idaho border? Best I can make out it's Boundary Dam, a major hydroelectric facility.
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Hexyflexy posted:It’s total in a full strike. It’s also also a bit weird, in the 2000 warhead strike, if I was the soviet nuke commander I wouldn’t bother hitting the American silos with all those warheads at all - it’s a given they’re expended, and in WW3, effectively forever. 2000 nuke strike is a first strike scenario, so it's trying to hit the silos before the American response starts flying. Also I should be alright (until I die of radiation poisoning probably) unless the Russkies decide to get real spiteful about national parks.
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Hexyflexy posted:It’s total in a full strike. It’s also also a bit weird, in the 2000 warhead strike, if I was the soviet nuke commander I wouldn’t bother hitting the American silos with all those warheads at all - it’s a given they’re expended, and in WW3, effectively forever. ICBMs aren’t easily retargetable, so you aim at the other guy’s missile silo in case one of them hasn’t gone off yet, then that’s one less missile coming at you. If there’s one of them left and two of us, we won, and all that.
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Nystral posted:WTF is in Orlando still of strategic importance to warrant nuking in at a 500 warhead level? The navy base closed like 25 years ago. Disney World.
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FrozenVent posted:ICBMs aren’t easily retargetable, so you aim at the other guy’s missile silo in case one of them hasn’t gone off yet, then that’s one less missile coming at you. Why is that, by the way?
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Why is that, by the way? They're hard-targeted aren't they? Youd have to change out the whole control board?
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Nystral posted:WTF is in Orlando still of strategic importance to warrant nuking in at a 500 warhead level? The navy base closed like 25 years ago. The Epcot Ball definitely isn't a ride about the history of the world, it's a huge radar installation.
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FrozenVent posted:If there’s one of them left and two of us, we won, and all that. I'd wager those closer to Antarctica would win a little too. They just get to die slower.
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Why is that, by the way? Three reasons: 1. Orbital ballistics are complex, it takes time to calculate them and it's not something that's easily done on the fly, especially with Cold War-era electronics. Better to calculate and program just a handful of targets for each missile. 2. Each missile is assigned to a target based on a pre-existing war plan. If you're in a situation where you are using an ICBM, you are not in any kind of situation where the plan can be changed. 3. The purpose of an ICBM is that they are amongst the fastest-reacting nuclear forces the nation has. Missiles like the Titan II were designed to be launched within minutes, if not seconds of a launch order being received, and that required the entire process to be as quick and as automated as possible. For the Titan II, the missile commander would have three buttons that would determine which pre-programmed target the missile would be launched at based on their orders, and that was it—there was no way of otherwise retargeting the missile, since the infrastructure wasn't designed around that being necessary. (Since it's not like Moscow is going to go anywhere).
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If for some reason you do need to glass a target not on the Big List, I'm assuming that is what the other legs of the triad are for? Bombers, or I would guess sub-launched missiles are more re-targetable?
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Why is that, by the way? spy
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EBB posted:Password? entropy9
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MRC48B posted:If for some reason you do need to glass a target not on the Big List, I'm assuming that is what the other legs of the triad are for? I'm afraid to ask because I expect the answer is going to be "nobody is going to say you idiot", can the subs retarget at will? It's been kinda hinted over the years that British boomers could i.e. famously "you hear the signal that Britain is dead playing over Radio 4 long wave from the British coast, you can now do what you want or scuttle".
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florida lan posted:At least I can die happy when the nuclear fire comes, knowing that Lynchburg has been wiped off the map. Thanks BWXT!
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Acebuckeye13 posted:(Since it's not like Moscow is going to go anywhere). Says you
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Hexyflexy posted:I'm afraid to ask because I expect the answer is going to be "nobody is going to say you idiot", can the subs retarget at will? It's been kinda hinted over the years that British boomers could i.e. famously "you hear the signal that Britain is dead playing over Radio 4 long wave from the British coast, you can now do what you want or scuttle". I imagine they'd have to be able to, since you don't know where in the world the sub is going to be when it gets a launch order, so you can't just program the missiles with a single ballistic trajectory in mind.
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RFC2324 posted:Hunter42 DENIED Fister Roboto posted:entropy9 
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BigDave posted:
Literally everywhere I've ever lived (CONUS) is in a 500 wh strike, and most in a 2k wh strike. Edit: Mt Weather is definitely under a few of those markers. I can't figure out what the Northern Idaho target is. I assume some kind of former missile launch site or nuke lab. Godholio fucked around with this message at 05:30 on May 27, 2019 |
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Do the 500-warhead targets assume they also get hit in the 2000-warhead plan? I would have thought that the larger plan would still hit everything on the smaller list, unless there's just that much difference between a first strike and a retaliation.Godholio posted:Literally everywhere I've ever lived (CONUS) is in a 500 wh strike. It figures that pretty much any military base of significance is going to get pasted. Though I'm pleased to see that Key West gets skipped, lucky bastards.
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