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sitchensis posted:No joke, e-scooters might have the potential to save us: Its still not legal to ride any personal electric vehicle on the road in Vancouver other than an E-bike. Electric skateboards, scooters etc are all illegal because the laws haven't caught up with technology. Chances of getting a ticket are pretty small but I've heard of several electric skateboard riders getting tickets for riding on the road. The provincial govt needs to get behind modes of transport that potentially get people out of their cars. It doesn't seem to be any sort of priority for them.
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Jehde posted:I agree that they are very hard, possibly even unrealistic, goals to meet. It would be great if drivers would be more supportive of alternative transportation infrastructure development in general though, so we have at least some hope of achieving a more car-less paradise. But, well, "more stuff for non-drivers, nothing more for drivers" doesn't palette well to drivers for obvious reasons. So we're back to accepting our doom of huffing on car farts as they run us over ad mortem. I'm moving to an area in Winnipeg where I'll be able to bike or walk to almost anything I'll need, but I'll still need to drive if I want to get clothes. It would be prohibitively difficult to do even that much, let alone live fully car-free, anywhere else I've lived here.
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Kraftwerk posted:Good Yeah I'm definitely not the sales guy, I'm more the crazy ideas guy. I make some gun nuts mad with my radical ideas w.r.t. proliferated firearms ownership. I do think EV incentives are a good stepping stone, and eventually self-driving will solve some of the pedestrian murder problems (or make them worse  ), but also level 4 automation seems impossible for all of Canada. An e-scooter co-op utopia would be fantastic.E: Supposedly an e-scooter share program is opening up here this summer! Can't wait to complain about them clogging up the bike lanes in a couple months. Jehde fucked around with this message at 18:05 on May 27, 2019 |
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May 27, 2019 17:40
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https://twitter.com/CBCAlerts/status/1133047029691822081 "as long as we're using fossil fuels we should be using *checks notes* the dirtiest oil on the planet"
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e-bikes are a neat idea but the problem is everyone driving them on the side walk. I almost get run down a few times a week thanks to them being quiet and not using bells or horns or anything.Pinterest Mom posted:https://twitter.com/CBCAlerts/status/1133047029691822081
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Mr. Apollo posted:Green, but not TOO green. banning fossil fuels in their entirety in 2019 might be just a teeny tiny bit of a stretch
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May 27, 2019 17:50
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Man I can't wait until someone actually ends oil imports and everyone has to pay $12 a litre for heavy oil gasoline
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Wilhelm posted:banning fossil fuels in their entirety in 2019 might be just a teeny tiny bit of a stretch I mean, we're gonna have to stretch something.
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Yeah forcing Canada to only use its own oil is totally not going to backfire and have gas be $12/L, look at our wildly successful Telcom industry or supply management system. Those Canadian industries are the backbone of Canada; Paying more is truly our national pastime.
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Meanwhile, in Alberta: https://twitter.com/NDPMikeC/status/1133016269316186113?s=20 Members of my family are telling me to stop getting my knickers in a knot over the abortion bans in the USA because "Stuff like that'll never happen in Canada". Right...
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Pinterest Mom posted:I wonder if one of JWR or JP become leader..... https://twitter.com/Gray_Mackenzie/status/1133071311813709825
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May 27, 2019 19:11
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This is possibly the weirdest thing to happen in this whole saga
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May 27, 2019 19:14
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Haha, Ford is actually going ahead and breaking The Beer Store contract. Estimated penalty costs could be up to $1 billion.
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May 27, 2019 19:15
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Efficiencies
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Pinterest Mom posted:https://twitter.com/CBCAlerts/status/1133047029691822081 The best part is that we have to make huge investments in refining capacity to adequately serve our own markets, It's so loving stupid. This loving country. Our Green Party is supporting multi-billion dollar investment into massive fossil fuel projects. And these refining projects have their lives measured in decades. And we need to decarbonize in loving years. What the gently caress Green Party. There needs to be a environmental movement willing to criticize this poo poo.
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:Haha, Ford is actually going ahead and breaking The Beer Store contract. No, but look, $60bn in debt! We've got to cut everything or our children will be bankrupt!
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May 27, 2019 19:20
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flakeloaf posted:Efficiencies Gotta spend money to make money
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*The province will actually make even less money since this will also cannibalize LCBO sales
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I just don't loving get it. It makes no sense. Why the gently caress do we build more refining capacity when it already exists elsewhere? What the gently caress is the point (in the context of a capitalist globalized economy). How the gently caress do we benefit from it? The pay-off for these projects won't be till like at least 2030. It makes no god drat sense. Like what the gently caress.
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^Saying it makes Albertans less unlikely to vote for you.infernal machines posted:*The province will actually make even less money since this will also cannibalize LCBO sales Well it's not like the guy he put in charge of the LCBO knows anything about running a liquor control board/retail empire. That job must be hard. Why not make it easier by knocking a few hundred skus off the books? e: He's definitely not paying $1Bn, he'll just legislate the contract out of existence and pay a few tens of millions in legal fees defending it, while everyone else who has a contract with the government packs up their poo poo and moves somewhere that's open for business flakeloaf fucked around with this message at 19:27 on May 27, 2019 |
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May 27, 2019 19:25
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The green party is the perfect low info feel good party for low info selfish Canadians.
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:Haha, Ford is actually going ahead and breaking The Beer Store contract. That's awesome, money well spent.
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cowofwar posted:The green party is the perfect low info feel good party for low info selfish Canadians. Congratulations to our new PM Elizabeth May.
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:Haha, Ford is actually going ahead and breaking The Beer Store contract. Oh hey the broken clock is right. Do DriveTest next. e: there's probably a better way to do this than by breaking a contract and I'm sure the dipshits are gonna screw this up but that the beer store exists in the first place is a policy failure to me. CRISPYBABY fucked around with this message at 19:57 on May 27, 2019 |
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May 27, 2019 19:55
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The beer store is dumb, and there's no good excuse for beer sales being controlled by a private monopoly, but the contract only had like 5 years left in it, so I don't understand why we have to get out of it right now, and I have little confidence this is being done so that we can usher in a new age of well-paying jobs at unionized liquor stores or anything like that.
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enki42 posted:The beer store is dumb, and there's no good excuse for beer sales being controlled by a private monopoly, but the contract only had like 5 years left in it, so I don't understand why we have to get out of it right now, and I have little confidence this is being done so that we can usher in a new age of well-paying jobs at unionized liquor stores or anything like that. How to lib 101: set up contract with massive penalties right before you lose power and take a job at the beneficiary.
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enki42 posted:The beer store is dumb, and there's no good excuse for beer sales being controlled by a private monopoly, but the contract only had like 5 years left in it, so I don't understand why we have to get out of it right now, and I have little confidence this is being done so that we can usher in a new age of well-paying jobs at unionized liquor stores or anything like that. doug ford probably has some buddies that run a convenience store (or chain) and this is going to make them a shitload of money and since its the province footing the billion dollar bill who gives a gently caress am i right guys
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May 27, 2019 20:25
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I would assume the OPC would delay fines for as long as possible through courts and hopefully pass them off to the next government
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Kindest Forums User posted:I just don't loving get it. It makes no sense. Why the gently caress do we build more refining capacity when it already exists elsewhere? What the gently caress is the point (in the context of a capitalist globalized economy). How the gently caress do we benefit from it? The pay-off for these projects won't be till like at least 2030. It makes no god drat sense. Like what the gently caress. For a prospective member of the Communist Party of Canada, you sure appear to be buying into the free trade rhetoric on this one. Shouldn't those dollars be kept at home, creating jobs for our fellow countrymen to build, maintain, and administrate this infrastructure rather than putting a few more dollars in the pockets of capital for the sake of efficiency? Should we not assure our own economic independence so that we are not held hostage by foreign interests after the revolution and subsequent nationalizations? If British Columbia is following the right path by restricting the use of land to assure provincial food security lest those uppity Albertans decide to cut off trade and drown themselves in grain silos, surely on a national level increasing refinery capacity and doing a better job at emissions recapture than refineries in third world states such as Mississippi can only be a good thing. (Also 2030 is only 10.5 years away - a blink of an eye! But I imagine the payback is actually longer or else it would likely actually be a good idea. We're simply not going to fully decarbonize that quickly.) Our banks and telecommunications companies are our beloved national treasures. Surely our refineries would join them!
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https://twitter.com/Gray_Mackenzie/status/1133074064929710089 tbh it sounds like Elizabeth May just doesn't want to be the leader of the Green Party anymore.
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If you want to get people off of petroleum, mandating the use of $12/L fuel seems rather more useful than a modest, affordable carbon tax. (This is definitely not what she's thinking)
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vyelkin posted:https://twitter.com/Gray_Mackenzie/status/1133074064929710089 There's something sad and also hilarious about E May asking anyone who gives her the time of day if they'd like to take her job.
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UnknownMercenary posted:Congratulations to our new PM Elizabeth May. She'd do electoral reform
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Reality Winter posted:She'd do electoral reform Anything to get out of her job. E: In which the Right Honourable Elizabeth May invites Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom, Canada and Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith, to lead the Green Party of Canada infernal machines fucked around with this message at 22:54 on May 27, 2019 |
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Can I just email her and tell her to give me the job? I swear I'll do better Fake edit: me or Hastings
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Had a guy come in today from Alberta that honest to god thought Jason Kenney could just call up the Saudis and put pressure on them to bring back the oil boom. Conservatives live on another loving planet these days and I honestly dont think its possible to talk them down or out of their beliefs at this point. Though I wont lie, I would love to hear the phone recording of Kenney trying to do this.
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What? Like, seriously, what? How the gently caress would that work even in the I have the understanding of a five year old when it comes to global affairs mindset?
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