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So far every single one of them has said some version of "Illinois has a spending problem not a revenue problem" and "but what if all the rich people leave"
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Passed the house 73-44-1. Going to the ballot in 2020. Now the real fun begins.
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May 27, 2019 22:35
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Did they pass the rate plan too or is that still up for debate?
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May 27, 2019 23:33
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I thought we couldn't institute a progressive tax without a constitutional amendment?
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Soonmot posted:I thought we couldn't institute a progressive tax without a constitutional amendment? That's what's up for vote, the amendment.
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All that is being talked about on Facebook is the RHA. The one thing I do not like is how these were passed. I am not a fan of Wisconsin Republican rush jobs. Yes, I k ow that they have to get them passed by May 31st to get them going fast enough, but it just irks me.
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The RHA was also as good as dead in a committee a week ago but then the house dem caucus wanted to send a national message to respond to Alabama/Missourri and the like.
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May 28, 2019 01:54
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May 28, 2019 02:12
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Last poll I read about last week said 58% of voters support it. But with almost a year and a half ahead of us for both sides to dump millions into a rhetoric and propaganda war who knows? This is Pritzker's flagship campaign promise so he's likely to pour a ton of money into it.
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Wait until the local news starts leading every segment with "the amendment could raise your taxes by 61%!”
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May 28, 2019 12:27
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:All that is being talked about on Facebook is the RHA. Nah. This is what these people were voted in to do. If there is anything the last 10 years or so of politics should have taught you it's that the only thing that matters in politics is having the political power to enact your agenda, and if you have that power you should use it because it can be gone in a moment. This of course does not apply to lame duck, gently caress the will of the voter sessions of course.
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NomChompsky posted:Last poll I read about last week said 58% of voters support it. But with almost a year and a half ahead of us for both sides to dump millions into a rhetoric and propaganda war who knows? This is Pritzker's flagship campaign promise so he's likely to pour a ton of money into it. 58% is more than enough if people are energized, this explains the variable method the Illinois constitution uses https://illinoiselectiondata.com/index.php?Title=What-Will-It-Take-To-Pass-the-Graduated-Income-Tax&p=1548  I don't know if the rates can be put on the ballot at the same time or what , or if that's even needed (I'm assuming it isn't)
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Seems like the rates aren’t needed but they want to pass the rates so that people can’t scaremonger about what the rates will be.
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mastershakeman posted:58% is more than enough if people are energized, this explains the variable method the Illinois constitution uses Also it's good timing. Presidential election year with Trump on the ballot. We can expect a good democratic turnout, and this policy is popular with democrats.
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The X-man cometh posted:Wait until the local news starts leading every segment with "the amendment could raise your taxes by 61%!” GOP tried this in 2018 in Illinois Didn't work out too well for them
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May 28, 2019 15:49
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https://capitolfax.com/2019/05/28/descend-like-vultures/ The fuckers are fuckering.
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So progressive tax on the ballot, RHA just passed... where the weed at?
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Moving through the senate. Should hit the house before the end of the week.
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How often does the Illinois legislature meet and for how long? I keep seeing stories that say the last day of the session is Friday but I can't figure out when they'd be back. I'm coming from Texas where they only meet once every two years, so if they don't get something done it's basically dead til after the next election. e: also Capitol Fax's website really slows down my computer and I can't figure out why because their website looks like trash Badger of Basra fucked around with this message at 00:25 on May 29, 2019 |
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Was slow for me today too, probably some script in an ad or something. Someone in the comments pointed out an interesting provision in the constitutional amendment vote next fall. If turnout is high enough, you only need 50% +1 instead of the 60© we'll otherwise need
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Badger of Basra posted:How often does the Illinois legislature meet and for how long? I keep seeing stories that say the last day of the session is Friday but I can't figure out when they'd be back. I'm coming from Texas where they only meet once every two years, so if they don't get something done it's basically dead til after the next election. They meet in Springfield from roughly February-May. Then they come back in the fall fit for the veto session, officially just to override any vetoes, but sometimes they rewrite a bill completely to get something new in before the end of the year. The governor can also call for a special session but I don't know much about those.
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To add onto the last post; they can also go into overtime, which is something that has been discussed this session because there's just so much huge line-item poo poo the governor wants to get through. In two days they've gotten two huge things done, one of which wasn't even going to happen until maybe fall or next winter. They still have gaming, weed, and a capital bill on the line. There were some special sessions during Summer while Rauner was in office, but because he had to keep pushing the legislature to fix problems he was causing.
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quote:Republicans on Tuesday said they will likely provide “a handful” of votes to legalize marijuana now that a new amendment to SB 7 establishes a different path to expunge the records of those convicted of cannabis-related offenses — the governor’s pardon power. Oh this is some straight loving goddamn bullshit goddamn loving worthless assholes. Live to prop up the loving middle men who are gonna have to handle this. And then if someone does something stupid after getting let out they can blame the governor for letting him out. This is so cosmically loving dumb how do you fall into this trap
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May 29, 2019 16:35
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May 29, 2019 16:39
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They're also getting rid of the home grow provision, which is complete bullshit. https://twitter.com/DriscollNPR/status/1133749397987241984?s=19
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Honestly, this change disturbs me the most: https://twitter.com/DriscollNPR/status/1133755691091537920 Previously, it was up to a class 4 felony, which meant 500 grams if it's your first pot charge or 100 if it's a later one. So that means you can't get expunged for possessing over 30 grams, that is to say, you'll still have it on your record for selling what's now a legalized quantity. Do the democrats even need Republican votes for this to pass?
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May 29, 2019 17:58
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They had to appease the prison guard and big businesses coming into the state I guess.
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May 29, 2019 21:06
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The weed bill passed the Senate committee and the floor vote is scheduled for right about now.
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Is there a particular twitter to follow to keep apprised of the floor vote? e: nm, Driscoll's twitter is doing so.
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May 29, 2019 23:39
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Flip Yr Wig posted:Do the democrats even need Republican votes for this to pass? I don't know about the senate, but they do in the house. There's a handful of suburban and collar county dems who aren't going to vote for it because that'll be the end of their tenures as reps but there's also a handful of republicans who are likely going to unless they totally hunker down and gently caress everyone over. Which isn't outside the realm of possibility. Republicans are super pissed after the events of the last couple of days with the fair tax and the RHA being jammed through.
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Bobulus posted:Assuming this passes, when would it go into effect? Jan. 2020, I'm pretty sure. they already have the infrastructure from the med dispensaries & growers, who I believe will be given preference in licensing.
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I found a livestream for the senate but I think they're on break till 6 (now): http://www.ilga.gov/senateaudvid.asp
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This self-ID'd "pro-life & libertarian" republican senator said he changed his mind after getting an email from Americans for Prosperity saying "freedom is freedom" and is now supporting the bill. Guys, I think this might be happening. 
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The bill gained 2 republican senators as co-sponsors today. It's looking good. The House will be the real challenge.
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Lori Lightfoot's reform proposals passed the Chicago City Council in a voice vote today (only Burke and one other alderman opposed). This might be the greatest day in Illinois political history.
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Lightfoot seems good. https://twitter.com/_johnbyrne/status/1133763777483034624
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