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RC Cola posted:I love that he went from a thug who was going to murder JoJo on the street to his best friend. 
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I love the line in Part 1 where Johnathan is fighting Bruford and it's like "I learned about these guys in history class and here they are now trying to kill me!" I think that's right around the time when Speedwagon defrost someone's arm with his abs.
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May 28, 2019 06:22
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Electric Phantasm posted:I think that's right around the time when Speedwagon defrost someone's arm with his abs. The best moment yet. Ah good ole Dio. Chopping off your head to live. gently caress you die already! Isn't there a thing where Dio comes back in part 4 or something? Something about pillar men next part? It's all very hazy. Also rip Dire  too huge for this world
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May 28, 2019 06:23
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dio comes back for a bit, don't worry. part 1 is genuinely the least loving crazy part.
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May 28, 2019 06:29
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Yeah part 2 starts off with a bang and keeps climbing until it breaks the atmosphere
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May 28, 2019 14:32
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I found out who Doppio was really talking to... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUUMChdX5fY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL39EUuS3QM
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May 28, 2019 14:49
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Zyla posted:keep posting reactions I always find it funny that people say this when part 1 has a scene where a disembodied vampire head shoots laser blood out of its eyes
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May 28, 2019 15:23
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it's jets of intensely pressurized eye fluid
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May 28, 2019 15:49
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Expect My Mom posted:it's jets of intensely pressurized eye fluid to be fair that is in no way any less bullshit than any kind of eye lasers in other superhero comics
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May 28, 2019 15:50
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it's a frickin laser beam
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May 28, 2019 15:51
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Those jet ripper stingy eyes exist in real life, some desert lizard. Anime is real.
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May 28, 2019 17:22
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Mans posted:Jojo part 5 has as a lot of kinky gay couples and i love it i forgot about it, but i kinda wish gay couples weren't always villains in anime
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May 28, 2019 21:22
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i'm probably thinking too hard about this, and there's nothing wrong with whatever kink secco and cioccolatta like, it's just you know mass murderer and all, thats mostly the bit that kinda bothers me
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May 28, 2019 21:28
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 how does secco get crystal clear 2001 cell service underground
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May 28, 2019 21:33
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Okay. Part 1 over. That was certainly a thing. Onto part 2!
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May 28, 2019 21:42
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Kuvo posted:
That’s the 2nd power of his stand.
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May 28, 2019 21:46
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He obviously doesn't since he missed two calls.
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May 28, 2019 21:50
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Kurtofan posted:i'm probably thinking too hard about this, and there's nothing wrong with whatever kink secco and cioccolatta like, it's just you know mass murderer and all, thats mostly the bit that kinda bothers me Giorno/Mista and Bruno/Abbacchio are right there
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May 28, 2019 21:55
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Kurtofan posted:i'm probably thinking too hard about this, and there's nothing wrong with whatever kink secco and cioccolatta like, it's just you know mass murderer and all, thats mostly the bit that kinda bothers me yeah it sucks that japan has a lot of weird cultural baggage about homosexuality and that distills into a lack of overt and explicit positive representation in their media but on the silver lining to that cloud is that this marvelous cornucopia of barely sublimated homoeroticism that is jojos bizarre adventure is perhaps a direct consequence of that kind of repression
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May 28, 2019 22:00
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RC Cola posted:Okay. Part 1 over. That was certainly a thing. Onto part 2! It only gets better. Part 1 is good but Part 2 is wonderful. I was going to say great but that one's reserved for Part 4.
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May 28, 2019 22:01
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Mr. Lobe posted:yeah it sucks that japan has a lot of weird cultural baggage about homosexuality and that distills into a lack of overt and explicit positive representation in their media but on the silver lining to that cloud is that this marvelous cornucopia of barely sublimated homoeroticism that is jojos bizarre adventure is perhaps a direct consequence of that kind of repression oh yeah don't get me wrong, i sure love how gay the show is in general
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May 28, 2019 22:08
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I think it's totally fine in a series as gay as JoJo to have gay bad guys. There are tons and tons of positive male relationships, some more overt than others. Things like Jonathan and Speedwagon, Joseph and Caesar, Josuke and Okuyasu are able to considered mlm for me, regardless of them saying I Love You to each other. Hell, Part 1 is a twisted tale of years of romance and desire between two men. So it's okay for there to be gay weirdo bad guys when you also have Bruno and Abbachio staring at each other in the rain that was purely added for the anime. being pure isn't fun at all, let the gay couples murder too i say. hell, the bad guy of the last part was A Straight Guy
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May 28, 2019 22:15
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Is 4 the one with Jotaro(is that part 3 JoJo?) hanging out with his Japanese brother or something? I have a very very loose memory of the series E: for sure JoJo and Dio were struggling with their feelings for each other. But also I think every make in part 1 was into JoJo.
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May 28, 2019 22:16
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Expect My Mom posted:I think it's totally fine in a series as gay as JoJo to have gay bad guys. There are tons and tons of positive male relationships, some more overt than others. Things like Jonathan and Speedwagon, Joseph and Caesar, Josuke and Okuyasu are able to considered mlm for me, regardless of them saying I Love You to each other. Hell, Part 1 is a twisted tale of years of romance and desire between two men. So it's okay for there to be gay weirdo bad guys when you also have Bruno and Abbachio staring at each other in the rain that was purely added for the anime. The bad guy of this part, as mentioned earlier, is also a straight guy who tried so hard to hide that fact that he ended up in a relationship with himself.
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May 28, 2019 22:19
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yeah Part 4 featured Josuke, Jotaro's uncle, who was ten years older than him.
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May 28, 2019 22:22
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Expect My Mom posted:yeah Part 4 featured Josuke, Jotaro's uncle, who was ten years older than him. I remember Jotaro is the tough guy kid delinquent. His dad is a jokester. I don't remember much about Josuke. I think part 4 has ghosts maybe? gently caress my memory is bad.
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May 28, 2019 22:27
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May 28, 2019 22:30
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josuke is a nice and friendly guy who has a temper and is also capable of being a scoundrel when it comes to money, harder to distill into a tidy archetype than his forebears
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May 28, 2019 22:32
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Expect My Mom posted:I think it's totally fine in a series as gay as JoJo to have gay bad guys. There are tons and tons of positive male relationships, some more overt than others. Things like Jonathan and Speedwagon, Joseph and Caesar, Josuke and Okuyasu are able to considered mlm for me, regardless of them saying I Love You to each other. Hell, Part 1 is a twisted tale of years of romance and desire between two men. So it's okay for there to be gay weirdo bad guys when you also have Bruno and Abbachio staring at each other in the rain that was purely added for the anime. I'm not saying it is bad to have gay villains, but it does kinda suck that for the protagonists the gay poo poo has to be subtextual (even if that subtext is often bold, underlined, and 48 pt.) rather than overt like with the assassin couples
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It's weird with JoJo because I feel like the villains getting involved with Gay poo poo makes them more fully realized and interesting just because of the context and story they're in. Like with Dio, he isn't weirdly sexual with Jonathan and only starts to feel some kind of way about him after they both go through all this poo poo fighting each other. After every terrible and awful thing that he has ever done to Jonathan up to that point, Dio showing up at his most vulnerable, explaining what he's going to do, and being really sincere about why he wants to do this, is way more interesting than how most other people write Gay Villains. That he is not only the most sincere that he's ever been, which is something that Dio normally never is, but that Jonathan accepts those feelings with grace, even though Dio's interpretation of those feelings are pretty hosed up, that's just really good writing. I think it helps too that even with the bit part villains, being gay isn't why they died, and with Sorbet and Gelato you still feel bad that they were murdered like that. The anime makes it really loving tragic especially. We barely knew them and now we're at their funeral. And with Cioccolatta and Secco, being weird kinksters are their only vaguely normal traits. It's a weird quirk. That's not the part about Ciolatta that makes him creepy and bad. It isn't woke by any means, but it's still better writing even for characters who aren't the main bad guys. In conclusion, JoJo's is a land of contrasts.
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How the gently caress did giornos va do that mudamuda and wryyyyy That sounded like a long take and jesus
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May 29, 2019 00:37
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super vague super mild spoilers about gay couples in jojo's: Araki did try to have a gay couple as protagonists but got over-ruled 
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Kurtofan posted:i'm probably thinking too hard about this, and there's nothing wrong with whatever kink secco and cioccolatta like, it's just you know mass murderer and all, thats mostly the bit that kinda bothers me It's actually pretty wild because apparently they have a really good, loving relationship with each other. They're both just horrific monsters. Find u a man who will let u yosh him and u'll know true bliss
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comedyblissoption posted:super vague super mild spoilers about gay couples in jojo's: If you're talking about what I think you're talking about about Annasui originally being a girl, who knew if they would've had the same personality
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Digamma-F-Wau posted:If you're talking about what I think you're talking about it's also a big Araki Says with no actual source afaik
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Grapplejack posted:It's actually pretty wild because apparently they have a really good, loving relationship with each other. They're both just horrific monsters. Yeah they're so cute together when you forget that they're super evil 
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May 29, 2019 03:15
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comedyblissoption posted:super vague super mild spoilers about gay couples in jojo's: Was there ever any evidence he got overruled on Annasui? I think it's just a fan rumor. It's entirely possible he didn't know what to do with him when he first drew him lounging on a piano and not doing or saying anything
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May 29, 2019 03:20
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Mr. Lobe posted:yeah it sucks that japan has a lot of weird cultural baggage about homosexuality and that distills into a lack of overt and explicit positive representation in their media but on the silver lining to that cloud is that this marvelous cornucopia of barely sublimated homoeroticism that is jojos bizarre adventure is perhaps a direct consequence of that kind of repression Golden Kamuy is similar, except less aestheticized and more consciously testing out what a seinen manga can get away with in such a social climate.
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My Brother's Husband ran in a seinen mag, there's probably less 'cultural resistance' to gay stuff in manga than there is western comics just due to the amount produced and manga being more than just mostly superheroes plus some indies.
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