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Eifert Posting posted:So is there nowhere to just buy access to this series? This is the only HBO series I want access to. I doubt it, but HBO streaming is like $15/mo so just sign up and then cancel.
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You could get HBO Now for 1 month, I think it's like $15. edit: beaten like Shcherbinina's telephone.
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May 29, 2019 00:33
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While we're on the subject how long will it take for the blu-ray release? Idk what HBO's timing is like and the only other TV I buy on disc is the Venture Bros.
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May 29, 2019 00:35
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Sign up for HBO through Amazon and you get a free week so you can watch it and then cancel.
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May 29, 2019 00:47
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FBS posted:While we're on the subject how long will it take for the blu-ray release? Idk what HBO's timing is like and the only other TV I buy on disc is the Venture Bros. Blu-Ray will likely be available after the show is done next week. HBO generally offers their shows for purchase after they have completed their run!
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Zoran posted:He was the man responsible for figuring out how to make those bad outcomes not happen, and he did. And more generally, he—and in real life, all the scientists dealing with Chernobyl—were facing a situation no one ever expected or anticipated; they all thought it was impossible until it happened. He frequently overestimates because he's being forced to apply theoretical concepts to an ongoing catastrophe. It's only natural that he would plan and pitch for the worst case scenario.
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My brother has been working on rendering and texturing Chernobyl’s interior structures in Blender for a handful of months, now. He’s been working with a Polish videogame developer for a Stalker-esque game that has to do with the disaster. He just sent this over to me, figured this thread would like it. He’s using as many reference photos as he can for the best accuracy. He’s excited because it’s the first game he’s ever worked on. http://imgur.com/a/bYdfNbg
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May 29, 2019 01:47
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Just want to say everybody needs to read midnight in Chernobyl if you like this show.
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May 29, 2019 02:12
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Also Midnight in Chernobyl and Chernobyl 1:23:40 have pretty much the same information about the accident itself, with the exception that Midnight is more detailed and thorough, properly sourced and written by a journalist. 1:23:40 is largely unsourced, written by a redditor who's not very good at writing, and the half of it that isn't directly lifted from Midnight or Voices (not word-for-word copied, just restated and not credited) is the author's account of his guided tour through the zone during which nothing of note happens. It's no wonder he had to self publish
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May 29, 2019 02:32
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Also if you were wondering why they kept asking if the Americans had anything to clear the roof, the United States has a long history being the capitalist pig that saves their bacon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Famine_Relief_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease#US_deliveries_to_the_Soviet_Union
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May 29, 2019 02:34
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Eifert Posting posted:So is there nowhere to just buy access to this series? This is the only HBO series I want access to. If you wait till next week, you can do a 7 day free trial through amazon prime if you have that. Then binge it.
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CainFortea posted:Well, sure. I just would be walking around with my breath mask all the time and not burning things. Probably made of asbestos.
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counterfeitsaint posted:So now that we're almost done with the cleanup part and politics seems to be the main focus of the last episode, there's something I don't understand. I'm kind of confused too, it's a little weird that Legasov puts this into such shocking terms yet the "official" outcome is relatively benign? It's nothing more than the original sixty odd plant workers and firemen? Did the all of the civilians, miners and "biorobots" actually survive? That doesn't make sense... As for the event itself, if there's a reactor meltdown what stops it melting? Would it ever theoretically just melt through the entire Earth's core if they hadn't poured tons of sand? Then what would happen outside of things like the groundwater being contaminated...
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May 29, 2019 04:16
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What you’re referring to is China syndrome. The biggest thing that prevents it is that eventually the corium spreads out as it melts through concrete through gravity and cools down as a result. Groundwater contamination is a risk, but it won’t melt a hole through the crust.
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counterfeitsaint posted:So now that we're almost done with the cleanup part and politics seems to be the main focus of the last episode, there's something I don't understand. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster#Human_impact quote:Of all 66,000 Belarusian emergency workers, by the mid-1990s only 150 (roughly 0.2%) were reported by their government as having died. In contrast, 5,722 casualties were reported among Ukrainian clean-up workers up to the year 1995, by the National Committee for Radiation Protection of the Ukrainian Population.[107][150]
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Gonz posted:My brother has been working on rendering and texturing Chernobyl’s interior structures in Blender for a handful of months, now. He’s been working with a Polish videogame developer for a Stalker-esque game that has to do with the disaster. The game in question wouldn't happen to be "Chernobylite", would it? Because I've been looking forward to that for quite a bit.
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Tab8715 posted:I'm kind of confused too, it's a little weird that Legasov puts this into such shocking terms yet the "official" outcome is relatively benign? It's nothing more than the original sixty odd plant workers and firemen? Did the all of the civilians, miners and "biorobots" actually survive? That doesn't make sense... A poo poo-ton of people got cancer and died within a few years of these events, including Shcherbina - he died 4 years after Chernobyl. Legasov estimated needing +/- 750,000 men over a period of many years, which is exactly the type of estimate you give your boss when you need a shitload of men and you have no way of knowing the full extent of the damage. You don't estimate 50,000, wait, now we need 60,000, no hold on, 70,000... Of those men, a lot of them died of cancer, but unless it's certain types of cancer it's hard to tell the exact cause, and their death certificate is unlikely to say "Cause of Death: Dyatlov". Plus, with the confusion of the entire governmental system breaking down just a few years later, any numbers you see for deaths are probably going to be on the low end. Do you include the men who drank themselves to death? Or committed suicide a few years later, because they had cancer?
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Duzzy Funlop posted:The game in question wouldn't happen to be "Chernobylite", would it? Because I've been looking forward to that for quite a bit. That’s the one!
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May 29, 2019 06:43
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Was it living in tenements full of asbestos, smoking 4 packs of unfiltered cigarettes a day, or cleaning up radioactive debris that gave me cancer?
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canyoneer posted:Was it living in tenements full of asbestos, smoking 4 packs of unfiltered cigarettes a day, or cleaning up radioactive debris that gave me cancer? perestroika of the lungs
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May 29, 2019 07:48
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canyoneer posted:Was it living in tenements full of asbestos, smoking 4 packs of unfiltered cigarettes a day, or cleaning up radioactive debris that gave me cancer? Some of the gas mask units also included asbestos in the filters. (The prevalent GP-5 masks)
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Does anyone know who the soldier at the beginning (the one who shot the cow) is? He looks crazy familiar, but he's not on the IMDB page.CrazyLoon posted:It's Pyp from Game of Thrones. Edit: Dead on, thanks. AFewBricksShy fucked around with this message at 13:04 on May 29, 2019 |
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May 29, 2019 12:13
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AFewBricksShy posted:Does anyone know who the soldier at the beginning (the one who shot the cow) is? He looks crazy familiar, but he's not on the IMDB page. It's Pyp from Game of Thrones.
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May 29, 2019 12:39
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There have been like five Game of Thrones actors in this show.
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So since we seem to have folks that know a good amount about this topic here’s a question. The Russian ex-pat that got the ole’ polonium milkshake from Putin. With just being exposed to ingested alpha particles, do you still get the skin melting and all that, or is it just internal damage?
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A related question, about the guy on the roof who tore his shoe. In theory if you got a fuckload of radiation to your foot only, could that kill you? Could it only damage your foot? Could quick amputation prevent it spreading?
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TinTower posted:What you’re referring to is China syndrome. Speaking of... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY8fJ0ldRnE
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clown shoes posted:There have been like five Game of Thrones actors in this show. HBO uses a lot of the same actors in their shows.
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kaesarsosei posted:A related question, about the guy on the roof who tore his shoe. In theory if you got a fuckload of radiation to your foot only, could that kill you? Could it only damage your foot? Could quick amputation prevent it spreading? I think you'd probably be screwed because radioactive blood is going to go elsewhere very quickly.
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kaesarsosei posted:A related question, about the guy on the roof who tore his shoe. In theory if you got a fuckload of radiation to your foot only, could that kill you? Could it only damage your foot? Could quick amputation prevent it spreading? The tissue damage wouldn't spread, so amputation wouldn't save you--but might prove necessary if the localized damage was severe. Changes in blood chemistry is going to be all through your body in short order anyway, so amputation isn't really a help there, either. Cancer is, well, cancer. The larger issues for torn-shoe guy are contamination--which might be washed off before the dose gets problematic, and the whole-body dose he got before leaving the roof, since that lead foil they were wearing wasn't going to do poo poo against a 12KR/hr dose rate.
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The Chad Georgian was amazing well cast.
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Falling down multiple times was probably worse since radiation follows the inverse-square law and so getting even a couple of feet closer substantially ups the dose.
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Bulky Bartokomous posted:So since we seem to have folks that know a good amount about this topic here’s a question. The Russian ex-pat that got the ole’ polonium milkshake from Putin. With just being exposed to ingested alpha particles, do you still get the skin melting and all that, or is it just internal damage? Internal mostly from Alpha. Keep in mind alpha particles are really big, just air alone is enough to stop them. Beta is significantly smaller, but a few layers of clothing can stop it. It's the ionization that makes these two bad. If the particles can get close enough it's ionization that fucks with you. Gamma, being a wave, just passes through everything but super dense material and that is what fucks with you the most most of the time. Alpha = O Beta = . gamma = gently caress you I penetrate everything
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SocketWrench posted:Internal mostly from Alpha. 
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:In addition, a few hundred to a few thousand people died just from the evacuation of Fukushima: God only knows how many died in the Soviet evacuation... I've never heard this before. Edit: I found it, it's estimating lifespan shortening from the stress of relocation unrelated to radiation and arguing that the evacuation caused far more problems than the reactor event. Bip Roberts fucked around with this message at 15:06 on May 29, 2019 |
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You know the recent episode was going to be good since it started with vodka case unloading and blasted shirtless guys dancing around.
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May 29, 2019 15:19
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Eifert Posting posted:Learn how to pronounce: "ничего не поделаешь" ето нормально, где водка?
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Tab8715 posted:I'm kind of confused too, it's a little weird that Legasov puts this into such shocking terms yet the "official" outcome is relatively benign? It's nothing more than the original sixty odd plant workers and firemen? Did the all of the civilians, miners and "biorobots" actually survive? That doesn't make sense... remember that legasov is speaking of possibilities in the context of the event currently happening, not detailing what did actually end up happening due to his efforts to mitigate the disaster, along with the efforts of hundreds of thousands of other people chernobyl was the first time a nuclear reactor went kablooie in such an extreme way so really everything is on the table as to fatalities, there were forty some odd people who died directly as an immediate cause of the accident, but the number of people who died later has to be measured on a statistical scale. and we'll never know how many casualties are a result of chernobyl, as it is an unknowable number, but probably in the tens of thousands AFewBricksShy posted:Does anyone know who the soldier at the beginning (the one who shot the cow) is? He looks crazy familiar, but he's not on the IMDB page. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfhXfawkeOc
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I'm glad that the series had the Human Society seal of approval at the end of the credits. Don't worry the doggie mass grave was actually fake dogs.
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etalian posted:You know the recent episode was going to be good since it started with vodka case unloading and blasted shirtless guys dancing around. Welcome to Russian celebrations of any stripe
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