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Shrimp or Shrimps posted:Just reboot both Frasier and Boss into each other. I'm down for a Frasier/Metal Gear Solid crossover.
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FilthyImp posted:Also Kelsey Grammar shouldn't have any drat say in the reboot direction because he thought his solo show should be about a paraplegic media magnate that directed his empire from his bed and his sassy latina maid would teach him the finer things of the working class world (sounds like the perfect recipe for a show cancelled just shy of mid-season after a reworking). I heard about this offhand and it raises many questions. So was the first idea a Kelsey Grammer vehicle about the bedridden billionaire? Did it star Grammer specifically? And then after they realized that's Cancelled After One Episode territory, they were just like, uh we'll just do a Cheers spinoff? Again, was Frasier the primary consideration for that?
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:I heard about this offhand and it raises many questions. Basically Grammer saw the end of Cheers approaching but also felt that he could handle a show based around him given how well his character integrated with the cast. He thought Spin Off would be too difficult to work (it would become an excuse to bring back Cheers members regularly), so he began looking at ideas for vehicles that would slot in easily and something about that premise appealed to him. When it was shut down, the producers went to work on how to make a Frasier spin off show work (move him out of Boston, pair him with family members). They got lucky with their first choices for Niles and Martin (the network said, if you can get them they're approved and we'll have contracts asap). They kept the sassy maid idea and were going after Rosie Perez but Jane Leeves auditioned and everyone loved what she brought. In yet another example of having terrible instincts, Kelsey felt the english maid would be too close to an older comedy (The Professor And the Whatever) and threatened to just axe the part. They had him do a closed door read with Leeves and he stormed out afterwards basically going "Yeah ok do it" FilthyImp fucked around with this message at 00:42 on May 28, 2019 |
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Sunswipe posted:I'm down for a Frasier/Metal Gear Solid crossover. Snake accidentally calls into Frasier's show with his codec. I bet this could be an edit.
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May 28, 2019 00:51
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FilthyImp posted:
My favorite stories itt are the ones about Kelsey Grammer being even more of an insufferable prat than Frasier Crane was.
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May 28, 2019 00:53
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I want a new series where it turns out Frasier was just something imagined by a bloated old conservative ham of an actor who falls off a stage in the moment he hits the ground.
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May 28, 2019 01:35
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flesh is burning dananananana
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May 28, 2019 01:44
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I hope they don't gently caress up the reboot as badly as they hosed up OG Frasier with the awful Niles and Daphne nonsense. My idea was to have Niles get together with Poppy who was the "insufferable airhorn" around everybody except Niles, the idea being she would be her usual "QUACKQUACKQUACK" when he was out of earshot but demure and near silent when she was with him so he never saw it, meanwhile Frasier was driven batshit insane from being in her company. I feel that could have had some mileage.
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supernatural blonde posted:I hope they don't gently caress up the reboot as badly as they hosed up OG Frasier with the awful Niles and Daphne nonsense. And then frasier tries to record her so Niles can hear it and instead ends up taping something that devastates Niles or just makes Frasier look terrible.
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May 28, 2019 02:27
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A Frasier reboot where he is a YouTube personality that unintentionally gets branded Alt-Right and he has to go out of his way to denounce Nazis and Incels and debate Peter Jordanson and Shep Benpiro
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May 28, 2019 04:01
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Bust Rodd posted:A Frasier reboot where he is a YouTube personality that unintentionally gets branded Alt-Right and he has to go out of his way to denounce Nazis and Incels and debate Peter Jordanson and Shep Benpiro "Frasier Gets Cancelled"
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:I want a new series where it turns out Frasier was just something imagined by a bloated old conservative ham of an actor who falls off a stage in the moment he hits the ground. I tried to find clips of his attempt at a right-wing TV network on Youtube, but they seem to have disappeared. Does anyone know the actual story of that? This was a few years ago, and I definitely didn't imagine "Right to Laugh" and the really awful "Health care? No thanks, Obama. My dental plan is to chew on the side that doesn't hurt" joke.
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May 28, 2019 16:01
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with very few exceptions daphne and niles together were really fine and the suggestion to 'fix' that with more poppy is so staggering that i'm assuming it must be a master-level troll
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May 28, 2019 16:02
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reboot is frasier in college where he starts a pirate radio station, and its also a undeclared reboot with the entire frasier cast
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datajugend posted:reboot is frasier in college where he starts a pirate radio station, and its also a undeclared reboot with the entire frasier cast Does that mean we'll get another episode with everyone fawning over Adam Sandler?
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May 29, 2019 01:45
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reboot is frasier lives in a computer world and must defend mainframe from intrusive & destructive video games
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May 29, 2019 01:56
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lol but posted:reboot is frasier lives in a computer world and must defend mainframe from intrusive & destructive video games 
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May 29, 2019 02:31
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Fools! It's been in front of us all along: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwstgNMbOA
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Bust Rodd posted:A Frasier reboot where he is a YouTube personality that unintentionally gets branded Alt-Right and he has to go out of his way to denounce Nazis and Incels and debate Peter Jordanson and Shep Benpiro Yikes. Too close to the especially bad episode of the unwanted New WKRP in Cincinnati where they had a parody right-wing radio guy named... Ready... Lash Rambo. That's some good writing there.
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May 29, 2019 04:44
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You've all been spelling Frajer wrong for a long time. He should know. He's Frajer.
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May 29, 2019 06:09
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What's the accepted cyrillic spelling of Crane. Because we all know the Cranes descend from russian thieves. Or would it be Crané like that time Maris was ashamed that she would be lumped in with Fraj.
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May 29, 2019 08:05
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The Russian was the grandmother, right? She married Noah Crane if memory serves
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May 29, 2019 22:58
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i like that late episode with all of frasier's exes and his mom because it's like the only time frasier acknowledges the ~~zany~~ level of gun violence around that season of cheers iirc it's something like sam gets a gun pulled on him (i think possibly twice in a single episode, also i think he shoots his self in he butt lol), hester pulls a gun on diane, and then the season premiere of the next season has fras pulling a heater on sam again so to see hester trying to be like "none of you could live up to how cool i was" and diane shout YOU PULLED A GUN ON ME THE FIRST TIME WE MET! was pretty cathartic lol
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May 29, 2019 23:23
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"Фрейзер Крэйн" (Freijzer Krejn if im transliterating correctly) is how his name is spelled in Russian translations of Frasier apparently.
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Martin saying Lillith was worse than Maris is pretty weird considering everything we later learn about Maris. But then again, Maris at least seems to try to be pleasant in social occasions, and most of her issues seem to stem from a LOT of mental issues that she legitimately can't help, while Lillith is deliberately cold and rude despite knowing better and being perfectly capable of at least trying to be pleasant. (and funnily enough tends to end up failing as badly as Frasier)
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Martin saying Lillith was worse than Maris is pretty weird considering everything we later learn about Maris. But then again, Maris at least seems to try to be pleasant in social occasions, and most of her issues seem to stem from a LOT of mental issues that she legitimately can't help, while Lillith is deliberately cold and rude despite knowing better and being perfectly capable of at least trying to be pleasant. (and funnily enough tends to end up failing as badly as Frasier) Lilith is a goddamn smokeshow and legitimately funny when verbally sparring with Frasier.
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i think the actress played herself in a cameo on some other sitcom and said of lillith "that bitch nets me a new beamer every couple of years" CLASSIC meta
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The Saucer Hovers posted:i think the actress played herself in a cameo on some other sitcom and said of lillith "that bitch nets me a new beamer every couple of years" CLASSIC meta I specifically remember that happening on Will & Grace. Jack and Karen ran into her randomly somewhere, and just gushed over her, calling her Lilith.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Martin saying Lillith was worse than Maris is pretty weird considering everything we later learn about Maris. Lilith is a loving beast. Brilliant, uptight, doesn't give a gently caress and with the wit to make what she says sting -- (she holds on to the language in Niles and Maris' wedding vows for years so she can throw back their cloying prose mockingly). Lady is fierce and fiercely independent and doesn't have any patience if she's not in the mood. Apparently this is terrifying when voiced by a woman because a lot of her quirks made it over to Sheldon in the Big Bang Theory and he's just oh so "loveable" despite being worse in every way. FilthyImp fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Jun 5, 2019 |
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please don't use "sheldon" and "lovable" in the same sentence in this, a thread about Frasier, an actually good show Lilith is great because she is an socially terrible cold jerk from her introduction in Cheers and seems to just refine how classy and witty of a cold jerk she is with age.
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FilthyImp posted:Apparently this is terrifying when voiced by a woman because a lot of her quirks made it over to Sheldon in the Big Bang Theory and he's just oh so "loveable" despite being worse in every way. ...wait, people find Sheldon charming? 
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Ugh please stop, I'm begging you all, this is one of my safe spaces from that horror of a gently caress poo poo show.
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The Saucer Hovers posted:love to see her sing and dance those gams
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Martin saying Lillith was worse than Maris is pretty weird considering everything we later learn about Maris. But then again, Maris at least seems to try to be pleasant in social occasions, and most of her issues seem to stem from a LOT of mental issues that she legitimately can't help, while Lillith is deliberately cold and rude despite knowing better and being perfectly capable of at least trying to be pleasant. (and funnily enough tends to end up failing as badly as Frasier) How much of that is just that Martin has spent more time around Lillith? He has to talk to Lillith when she appears with his grandson. Is there even anything that suggests Martin has seen Maris since her wedding day with Niles? I'd find the woman who insults me in my home more annoying that the weird woman I only ever hear about second-hand.
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Sunswipe posted:How much of that is just that Martin has spent more time around Lillith? He has to talk to Lillith when she appears with his grandson. Is there even anything that suggests Martin has seen Maris since her wedding day with Niles? I'd find the woman who insults me in my home more annoying that the weird woman I only ever hear about second-hand. they all run into her on the cruise and in a few other episodes, just because the audience doesn't see her doesn't mean martin doesn't
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They do make a point about how Maris avoids Crane family functions, so he probably doesn't see her that much.
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He does see her more than Lilith though, at least early on. A bunch of the running gags in the show about her are him or Fraiser incredulously saying something insane about her and Niles being like 'oh its normal that she literally blows away in the breeze, happens all the time'
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