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Overwatch Porn posted:i still think we shouldn't jump to a bunch of conclusions based on leaks of dubious accuracy but w/e That's boring, you're boring. Jumping to insane conclusions is a good time. My hot take: Everyone is down on warrior because they didn't get any flash in the trailer but the job is already stupidly good and getting an ae combo that generates gauge fixes the only issue I had with the job.
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Failboattootoot posted:That's boring, you're boring. Jumping to insane conclusions is a good time. Warrior doesn't even really need much, it's been like the best tank basically non-stop since it got fixed in ARR.
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May 29, 2019 03:38
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ImpAtom posted:WHM is apparantly trading Stone for Dia and SCH will still have Art of War That doesn't sound right, isn't Dia a new (dot) spell at 72 or something? Why would they lose their single target for that?
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May 29, 2019 03:41
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WHM is presumably losing stone/aero for glare/dia
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May 29, 2019 03:42
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The ability preview shows a Stone 4 replacement and an Aero 2 replacement.
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May 29, 2019 03:42
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I'm definitely switching classes since I found out that BLM is losing Flare to reduce their AOE dominance. It's cool that they're boosting the damage on Freeze as a Flare replacement, but Freeze doesn't have as good an animation as Flare did.
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May 29, 2019 03:44
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https://twitter.com/coolranchzaku/status/1133548714079993857 Goddamnit, Mord, there were about two different ways that conversation could have taken.
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It's one of those choices, like how they're making Paladin's abilities all support skills and their only damage source will be auto-attacking, that I'm not sure I'm a fan of. I get the concept behind wanting a support tank as a "leader" style class, but they should have at least kept their sword combos.
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Overwatch Porn posted:i still think we shouldn't jump to a bunch of conclusions based on leaks of dubious accuracy but w/e It's looking like Shadow Flare, Miasma, Energy Drain and Bane are getting cut from SCH based on the leaks. Those are buttons I like pressing, and also Miasma I guess. It's not looking like there will be any replacement buttons. I don't think anyone is jumping to conclusions, we're just not very excited by the content of the leaks of dubious accuracy as they pertain to Scholars. That doesn't mean we're all sure they're correct and will absolutely be jumping ship to card games and star-spangled haberdashery in July.
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FactsAreUseless posted:I'm definitely switching classes since I found out that BLM is losing Flare to reduce their AOE dominance. It's cool that they're boosting the damage on Freeze as a Flare replacement, but Freeze doesn't have as good an animation as Flare did. What? The ability preview had the BLM flare like 6 times. They also get a single target alternative to it. My biggest question about healers right now is cross role skills. We'll be down to 5. Right now we have: Surecast, Largesse, Lucid, Swiftcast, Cleric Stance, Esuna, Rescue, E4E, Break, and Protect. If we believe the leaks, Repose is a new one, and WHM get a Largesse replacement which leaves 9 in the pool. Out of those, Surecast, Swiftcast, Lucid, are top tier and I want them. Esuna isn't going away. So what are we gonna lose? Orcs and Ostriches fucked around with this message at 03:51 on May 29, 2019 |
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May 29, 2019 03:49
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Overwatch Porn posted:i still think we shouldn't jump to a bunch of conclusions based on leaks of dubious accuracy but w/e Not really conclusions, as much as nervous speculations, since nobody can really conclude anything until any of this stuff is confirmed.
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May 29, 2019 03:54
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Well we've got about 10 hours before it's probably all answered. Then all we can debate is potency numbers.
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:My biggest question about healers right now is cross role skills. Healers are keeping Surecast, Lucid, Swiftcast, Esuna, and Rescue, and are getting Repose, according to the spell ID table someoen datamined from the benchmark.
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May 29, 2019 03:57
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dreffen posted:They haven't said what Gunbreaker and Dancer start at level wise have they? 60 and they'll have job quests from 60-70.
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Vermain posted:Healers are keeping Surecast, Lucid, Swiftcast, Esuna, and Rescue, and are getting Repose, according to the spell ID table someoen datamined from the benchmark. Sounds fair. I misread and thought we were down to 5, but it looks like 6 after a re-read. But why the gently caress Repose?
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:Sounds fair. I misread and thought we were down to 5, but it looks like 6 after a re-read.
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:But why the gently caress Repose? No clue. I doubt it's because they have dreams of Burning Crusade-style CC requirements, because you would've seen something similar proliferated to another role if that were the case. It's probably there as a small aid for lower level duties and for certain niche cases, like sleeping mobs in Eureka.
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Vermain posted:No clue. I doubt it's because they have dreams of Burning Crusade-style CC requirements, because you would've seen something similar proliferated to another role if that were the case. It's probably there as a small aid for lower level duties and for certain niche cases, like sleeping mobs in Eureka. We tend to think about character balance only in dungeons and trials and raids, but solo balance is definitely important - for most players, solo content is a significant portion of the game.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:https://twitter.com/coolranchzaku/status/1133548714079993857 Rofl. That owns. Someone I know runs the FC that sprout was in so I just went over to them and gave them 500k and peaced out. That was literally the extent of our conversation. lol
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:Sounds fair. I misread and thought we were down to 5, but it looks like 6 after a re-read. They have stated that canceling spell casts is going to be a larger part of the design, which is also why those spells are now marked. Repose is going to be a CC that all three healers get for this.
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FactsAreUseless posted:It's one of those choices, like how they're making Paladin's abilities all support skills and their only damage source will be auto-attacking, that I'm not sure I'm a fan of. I get the concept behind wanting a support tank as a "leader" style class, but they should have at least kept their sword combos.
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ImpAtom posted:They have stated that canceling spell casts is going to be a larger part of the design, which is also why those spells are now marked. Repose is going to be a CC that all three healers get for this. Instant stuns and silences are one thing, but a 2.5s GCD cast interrupt on Repose isn't going to cut it, unless cast bars become huge. I think it's gotta be a levelling thing for some reason.
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God I can't wait for the embargo to lift. I'm growing progressively more excited at the prospect of dancing my way to
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It's kinda weird, because they said that tanks and ranged dps were the ones that would get skills for interrupting, so I'm not too sure about that. On the other hand, I can see why they would give healers repose since when soloing stuff against multiple foes you could just put a few to sleep and then dps the remaining guy, but the problem is that can't see that being useful for say, AST when they can just...gravity. Or lightspeed gravity, if lightspeed still exists.
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Head Hit Keyboard posted:I'm pretty sure holding Assize for a raidwide is a DPS gain over popping itimmediately and having to blow a GCD on Medica. probably, but it's still inefficient having to choose between losing one or more assize casts over a fight to use them for healing or losing one or more stones to cast medica
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Zore posted:60 and they'll have job quests from 60-70. Good to know! I was having trouble finding that bit of info anywhere.
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Cannot believe the only healer dps left is gonna be auto-attacking with a staff. And they removed strength materia just so that they can't buff up their damage for that. Seriously though, as a WHM main I have been kinda feeling this uncertainty as well. Doing some DPS was one of the things I enjoyed about this job and while I figure it's not gonna be too different overall I will miss unleashing a instant AoE while shouting that they shall fear the power of my (intentionally mispronounced) rear end-size. In conclusion: RIP Butts
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Gorelab posted:Holy losing the stun isn't surprising to me just because it was a long time of full damage + mitigation which was probably too much. This is also a non-competitive PVE game and most of the things susceptible to stuns only existed in casual content where it didn't matter if an ability was too strong. I don't know who these changes are supposed to appeal to, they don't seem to make the job anymore fun to play. It looks like YoshiP is trying to slow down the pace at which casual content can be completed.
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Holy stun is irritating if you're playing DRK.
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Greader posted:Cannot believe the only healer dps left is gonna be auto-attacking with a staff. And they removed strength materia just so that they can't buff up their damage for that. I stopped being excited about healer dps, and healers in general, when they scrapped cleric stance.
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Cleric Stance was a garbage skill that predominately added pointless busywork, and caused a bunch of wipes due to lag turning it off and immediately on again.
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There were way too many times where my Cleric Stance didn't trigger correctly either leaving me doing limp noodle DPS or having completely neutered healing at the most inopportune moments. I was glad it was done away with honestly.
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cleric stance was a blight and i'm glad it's been completely eradicated, even its vestigial form
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Yeah, I agree on Cleric Stance being gone as it was. It also meant new healers would be more hesitant to throw in some damage once in a while since they didn't know the flow of battle enough to be confident to use a skill that basically made any healing not work for a short duration. I did sorta enjoy the extra excitement of it but not enough to where I would go back to having to deal with it in every single dungeon, raid, etc. My only complaint is that the new cleric stance feels completely useless. As is, it is way more of a DPS increase as WHM when I use the skill that reduces cast time and cooldowns and using that skill for doing more damage feels a little more off since I also kinda want it around for emergencies (read: the other healer died just after I used up swiftcast to scrape a dragoon off the floor). Would be better if there was a more dedicated button to go "Alright, time to do some damage", even if it only last for a relativily short time to maybe put on some boosted DoTs or something.
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BrightWing posted:Holy stun is irritating if you're playing DRK. nah source: drk main
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FactsAreUseless posted:Thread broke. Pray return to a working thread. Time until Broke Thread turns into The Brokest Thread: ETA a few minutes after the first post-embargo stuff goes live.
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