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"You're done" was definitely telling the guy he was dead? I only ask because the delivery was so matter if fact, like not an ounce of sympathy in it
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No, he was just done with his 90-second shift. He was standing around like an idiot processing everything, and the commanding officer was telling him to go back down and decontaminate.
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May 29, 2019 16:51
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"You’re done" has duality in meaning considering that liquidator’s extra graphite and water contamination. Like most of the writing in this show, the line was written and delivered perfectly.
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May 29, 2019 17:00
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I highly recommend listening to his series with headphones. I've been watching on an xbox through the controller and the soundtrack provides a new layer of surreal uneasiness to the slow prodding cinematography that you don't get through the speakers or even 5.1. Also I want to believe the intro of the guys walking through the field and locating highly radiated things with the leather bound booklet was a stalker reference. (Yes, I know those were standard issue booklets but I can dream)
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May 29, 2019 17:16
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:"You're done" was definitely telling the guy he was dead? I only ask because the delivery was so matter if fact, like not an ounce of sympathy in it None of those guys died of ASR afaik. If any did it was hidden. Cancer? Absolutely.
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Anne Whateley posted:No, he was just done with his 90-second shift. Not only that, he was done with going to the roof at all. The men weren't allowed to go there twice, 90 second was all they got.
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May 29, 2019 17:49
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etalian posted:You know the recent episode was going to be good since it started with vodka case unloading and blasted shirtless guys dancing around. Dive into radioactive water to stop an explosion: 800 rubles and a glass of vodka. Shooting pets: 1000 rubles and all the vodka you can drink,
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Alhazred posted:Dive into radioactive water to stop an explosion: 800 rubles and a glass of vodka. I know this was a joke, but it was 800 rubles per year for the rest of your life if I was remembering correctly.
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CommanderApaul posted:There's a really interesting paper that postulates that the first, smaller explosion was a configuration disassembly from the core going prompt supercritical (essentially a fizzled bomb) after the insertion of the control rods, and then that disassembly blew the lid off, which then caused a larger steam/hydrogen explosion and the graphite fire. You're clearly mistaken. It's impossible, the reactor is fine. report to the infirmary.
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May 29, 2019 18:22
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For an episode about doggo murder and other horribleness that was a surprisingly funny watch.
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Fragmented posted:For an episode about doggo murder and other horribleness that was a surprisingly funny watch.
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"I don't know them gently caress them." lol
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Full disclosure i'm only halfway through the episode. If it ends up being the most disturbing episode of TV ever may my post be forever entombed here.
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May 29, 2019 18:34
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Speaking of Afghan Vets. I would LOVE for the creators of this show to team up and do a band of brothers/ the pacific style series about the Soviet Afghan War.
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May 29, 2019 18:45
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Kraftwerk posted:Speaking of Afghan Vets. I would LOVE for the creators of this show to team up and do a band of brothers/ the pacific style series about the Soviet Afghan War. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iknh6sQtDnM&t=
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luxury handset posted:as to fatalities, there were forty some odd people who died directly as an immediate cause of the accident, but the number of people who died later has to be measured on a statistical scale. and we'll never know how many casualties are a result of chernobyl, as it is an unknowable number, but probably in the tens of thousands I'm still a little surprised even for the USSR wouldn't have done some kind of record keeping for just keeping track of things. Even if in secret.
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Glah posted:Yeah that would be cool. Something in the style of this documentary: Just leave out the genocide and rape, right? If you thought the Russians went mental because of THIS show...
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Tab8715 posted:I'm still a little surprised even for the USSR wouldn't have done some kind of record keeping for just keeping track of things. Even if in secret. The USSR doesn’t exist six years after this, so I’d imagine the epidemiology gets sketchy
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Kraftwerk posted:Speaking of Afghan Vets. I would LOVE for the creators of this show to team up and do a band of brothers/ the pacific style series about the Soviet Afghan War. Might be hard when the good guys would kill people for flying kites
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theflyingexecutive posted:The USSR doesn’t exist six years after this, so I’d imagine the epidemiology gets sketchy Well, yea but wouldn’t those records then get released? I’m kind of surprised there isn’t some kind of Chernobyl Survivors Organization.
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USSR had no incentive to keep records in the first place
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There might be a lot of stuff in the old Ukrainian KGB archives, Ukraine released a bunch of it after the iron curtain fell
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Gargantuan if factual. https://twitter.com/thesun/status/1133775728535834624?s=21
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Reading Midnight in Chernobyl answered one of the questions I had regarding why in the gently caress would they tip the shutdown rod tips with graphite. Answer is because the boron rods stay close enough to the surface of the reactor there is minimal poisoning of the neutrons and power drag close to that area. The cheap rear end soviets solved this by putting graphite on the tips because why the hell not! Reading this book makes me so mad every other page. I had no idea about all the other accidents prior to Chernobyl.
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May 29, 2019 23:33
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keyframe posted:Reading Midnight in Chernobyl answered one of the questions I had regarding why in the gently caress would they tip the shutdown rod tips with graphite. Answer is because the boron rods stay close enough to the surface of the reactor there is minimal poisoning of the neutrons and power drag close to that area. The cheap rear end soviets solved this by putting graphite on the tips because why the hell not! You should check out Command and Control if you want to hate everything.
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https://news.avclub.com/memes-are-helping-people-process-the-horrors-of-hbos-ch-1835104833 I was on team night king but team chunk of graphite is undefeated
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keyframe posted:Reading Midnight in Chernobyl answered one of the questions I had regarding why in the gently caress would they tip the shutdown rod tips with graphite. Answer is because the boron rods stay close enough to the surface of the reactor there is minimal poisoning of the neutrons and power drag close to that area. The cheap rear end soviets solved this by putting graphite on the tips because why the hell not! Yeah the reactor design made lots of cost cutting measures since the Soviets lacked things like the ability to make low tolerance parts, no secondary backup shielding barrier in the design and also tended to be more cash strapped vs western nations. The secretive compartmental nature of the Soviet nuclear industry also meant lessons learned like the Leningrad near miss incident due to the void coefficient issue also never got communicated to plant operators.
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Despera posted:https://news.avclub.com/memes-are-helping-people-process-the-horrors-of-hbos-ch-1835104833 
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Not sure this is the right thread for this but: How do you get a nuclear reactor started? What I mean is, where do you get the neutrons to trigger a chain reaction between the fuel rods? Is there some particle accelerator that serves as a "Starter motor" for a nuclear reactor? Or do the fuel rods passively shed neutron radiation into other fuel rods to trigger the reaction? How do you know when a fuel rod is "spent"? Lastly when you have a fuel rod sitting on its own with the uranium pellets inside, what stops it from going critical? Is it the lack of moderator?
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My understanding is when there's enough radioactive material in proximity, criticality is just a thing that happens. Moderators help lower the amount needed to reach "critical mass" The thread in gbs is probably better when they calm down from the meltdowns they had earlier
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Despera posted:Never looking at pencils the same way again Buddy let me tell you about bananas
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Kraftwerk posted:Not sure this is the right thread for this but: The reactor is started by using a neutron source, usually some material that is unstable enough to undergo fission spontaneously. Some quick googling tells me the most common one used for new reactors is a particular isotope of californium. I believe plutonium also spontaneously fissions at a relatively high rate, and that's why you can't use plutonium in a "Little Boy"-style gun-type bomb—plutonium produces enough free neutrons to start its own chain reaction too early, before the two pieces of fissile material assemble fully, so it blows itself apart before it can produce a giant explosion. They make californium by bombarding uranium or plutonium with alpha radiation to form increasingly heavy elements.
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Zoran posted:I believe plutonium also spontaneously fissions at a relatively high rate, and that's why you can't use plutonium in a "Little Boy"-style gun-type bomb—plutonium produces enough free neutrons to start its own chain reaction too early, before the two pieces of fissile material assemble fully, so it blows itself apart before it can produce a giant explosion. This says a lot about the time scales involved. You toss one chunk of plutonium at another at 3,000 feet per second, maybe more, maybe twice that if you can put charges at both ends, and the fission reaction will still blow it all apart before the assembly is complete.
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https://twitter.com/franakviacorka/status/1131538109806600193?s=21 Russia’s not happy with HBO.
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Netflix has a show where humanity flees earth for Io. Surface of Io gets about 500 seiverts an hour
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Tab8715 posted:Well, yea but wouldn’t those records then get released? there are plenty of chernobyl survivors organizations the problem with keeping records is that the soviet union fell apart five years after chernobyl, which hosed up their ability to do government for a while. russia couldn't even keep tract of their nuclear weapons, let alone public health paperwork. also the disaster took place over three separate soviet socialist republics who then became three different independent countries, so suddenly these countries had to assume the burden of tracking chernobyl people and keeping up with their health records and pensions
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TinTower posted:https://twitter.com/franakviacorka/status/1131538109806600193?s=21 probably the amount of incompetence and lying by Russia helped to kickstart the Ukrainian independence movement. The Russians had even planned for the reactors to much closer to Kiev.
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