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My favorite Nintendo game used to be "Silent Service". I will always remember this documentary on PBS about sub life and this dude with glasses just said "We get bored so Touching and Stuff". Then in high school the one recruiter was normal as a recruiter can be and the other guy had a broken tooth and was fresh from a sub and sent to recruit. They had some friction I picked up on. I didn't sign up for the Navy that day. Edited to change the name of the video game. stinkypete fucked around with this message at 08:17 on May 27, 2019 |
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PROCUREMENT CHAT I think we may have finally dodged a bullet: https://news.usni.org/2019/05/28/lo...0JlUCghfA-OVhEg quote:Lockheed Martin won’t submit a bid to compete in the design of the Navy’s next-generation guided-missile (FFG(X)) frigate competition, company officials told USNI News on Tuesday.
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May 28, 2019 22:56
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I just got orders to the Blue Ridge and pretty stoked about being stationed in Japan. But someone from my current command claims that its going to be switching homeports sometime in either 2020 or 2021 to San Diego, North Island. I asked him how does he know and he just said "i know some people in the blue ridge and they said that." I'm skeptical about that because I thought the entire purpose of the Blue Ridge was just visiting ports and strengthening relationships with allies in 7th fleet. So then which ship would replace it? And what mission would the Blue Ridge have in SD, visiting Central America and South America? Anyways, do you guys think this is BS or has some truth to it?
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May 28, 2019 23:01
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Madurai posted:PROCUREMENT CHAT That loving sucks for the thousand of us up in Marinette. I suppose there's always a chance that the FMM frigate gets picked but it felt a lot better having two bids in.
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May 28, 2019 23:41
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PneumonicBook posted:That loving sucks for the thousand of us up in Marinette. It sucks for the guys working the yards in Marinette of course, but for the sailors who will be on the ship, the Freedom LCS design cannot function as an actual modern frigate, it isn't survivable in any real sense in surface combat last I heard. LCS is a ship in search of a mission tbh, which described that whole program.
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May 28, 2019 23:48
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orange juche posted:It sucks for the guys working the yards in Marinette of course, but for the sailors who will be on the ship, the Freedom LCS design cannot function as an actual modern frigate, it isn't survivable in any real sense in surface combat last I heard. LCS is a ship in search of a mission tbh, which described that whole program. It was never designed to be a frigate, and it was literally not designed to be survivable. Those were the Navys decisions. Regardless the RFI made it pretty clear what the navy wants the next gen frigates to be, and Lockheed's design would have sufficed. The whole LCS programs hosed but to act like a frigate designed by LM was going to run into the same problems is ignorant. And at the end of the day this wont matter because Congress will keep buying independence and freedom ships for the lulz. FWIW my feeling on the hulls from a mission standpoint is to take half the fleet and put them in the gulf, take the other half for counter drug ops. PneumonicBook fucked around with this message at 23:55 on May 28, 2019 |
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May 28, 2019 23:53
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PneumonicBook posted:
Did you read the article, they were literally planning to submit the Freedom LCS hull as their candidate for the bid. That is the bullet that was dodged, because if you used a rebadged LCS as a surface combatant, that thing would be sunk by the first antiship missile to hit it. LCS works in a permissive environment. In an environment where they're against a peer nation they're loving death traps. orange juche fucked around with this message at 23:59 on May 28, 2019 |
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May 28, 2019 23:57
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PneumonicBook posted:FWIW my feeling on the hulls from a mission standpoint is to take half the fleet and put them in the gulf, take the other half for counter drug ops. Bring back The Texas Navy
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May 28, 2019 23:59
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orange juche posted:Did you read the article, they were literally planning to submit the Freedom LCS hull as their candidate for the bid. They were using an uparmored hull. Have you seen the proposed LM hull design? The biggest issue with the ships from a survivability standpoint is the engineering plant, which literally cant be the same based on the RFI.
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May 28, 2019 23:59
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orange juche posted:Did you read the article, they were literally planning to submit the Freedom LCS hull as their candidate for the bid. That is the bullet that was dodged, because if you used a rebadged LCS as a surface combatant, that thing would be sunk by the first antiship missile to hit it. LCS is not designed to attack peer capability ships. Frigate would be. The hull would have changes to ensure that, and based on proposals I saw did. Like dont get me wrong here, the only design worse than the proposed LM design is Austal's. The FREMM is probably the best design as of now. PneumonicBook fucked around with this message at 00:04 on May 29, 2019 |
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May 29, 2019 00:01
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Aren't they still built out of aluminum? E: the superstructure is. Maybe I'm coming at this from a wrong angle. I can tell this is gonna get testy so I'll just drop it, I've never ridden on an LCS and I haven't seen the redesigned ship designs, so I can't really argue for or against the thing. I just don't think that even an up-armored LCS would work in a peer combat scenario, does it even have proper damage control systems since its whole thing was to not be hit? Just seems like a ground up re-design would have been a better ship and Lockmart should have designed a new hull that would have fit the bill instead of square peg in round hole poo poo. orange juche fucked around with this message at 00:13 on May 29, 2019 |
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May 29, 2019 00:02
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orange juche posted:Aren't they still built out of aluminum? The freedom LCS' have a steel hull, aluminum superstructure. Austal's indy class are all aluminum. Somewhat related, lol at the Saudis for buying 4-8 freedoms with VLS. PneumonicBook fucked around with this message at 00:09 on May 29, 2019 |
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May 29, 2019 00:05
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Al Capwn posted:I just got orders to the Blue Ridge and pretty stoked about being stationed in Japan. But someone from my current command claims that its going to be switching homeports sometime in either 2020 or 2021 to San Diego, North Island. I asked him how does he know and he just said "i know some people in the blue ridge and they said that." I'm skeptical about that because I thought the entire purpose of the Blue Ridge was just visiting ports and strengthening relationships with allies in 7th fleet. So then which ship would replace it? And what mission would the Blue Ridge have in SD, visiting Central America and South America? Anyways, do you guys think this is BS or has some truth to it? Considering BLUE RIDGE is literally the main bulk of the physical desk space for 7th Fleet and there isn't another class that can do that I'm very skeptical of this claim.
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Al Capwn posted:I just got orders to the Blue Ridge and pretty stoked about being stationed in Japan. But someone from my current command claims that its going to be switching homeports sometime in either 2020 or 2021 to San Diego, North Island. I asked him how does he know and he just said "i know some people in the blue ridge and they said that." I'm skeptical about that because I thought the entire purpose of the Blue Ridge was just visiting ports and strengthening relationships with allies in 7th fleet. So then which ship would replace it? And what mission would the Blue Ridge have in SD, visiting Central America and South America? Anyways, do you guys think this is BS or has some truth to it? ManMythLegend posted:Considering BLUE RIDGE is literally the main bulk of the physical desk space for 7th Fleet and there isn't another class that can do that I'm very skeptical of this claim. I'm with MML here. I have a friend that's about to leave the Blue Ridge in a few weeks that I can ask, and considering that they just spent a poo poo ton of money refurbishing her? I don't think the ship is conducting a home port shift any time soon. Edit: Spoke with my friend. He's not sure where the guy in your command heard that (he did note that this was a rumor a few years back, but it was unfounded), but you are safe to enjoy Japan for a few years and to experience those awesome port visits. The Valley Stared fucked around with this message at 02:28 on May 29, 2019 |
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May 29, 2019 02:20
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Could fit a lot of desks and wine casks on the Lewis B. Puller. Or a welldeckless America class. But I don't see them taking Blue Ridge out of 7th fleet unless it's for an extended yard period and probably not even then. And not soon.
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May 29, 2019 02:56
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piL posted:Could fit a lot of desks and wine casks on the Lewis B. Puller. Or a welldeckless America class. Don't they have yard services in Yokosuka? If they didn't work on it there, they could rotate it to Pearl for a bit and then move it back out to Japan when the yard time is done. There's no real reason to send it back to San Diego that couldn't be handled in Pearl.
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May 29, 2019 06:19
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orange juche posted:Don't they have yard services in Yokosuka? If they didn't work on it there, they could rotate it to Pearl for a bit and then move it back out to Japan when the yard time is done. There's no real reason to send it back to San Diego that couldn't be handled in Pearl. They are yard periods in Yoko, but sometimes availability or shipping costs is such that two trans-Pacific journies and two PCSs could be worth it. Unlikely though.
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The comment section is real great https://news.usni.org/2019/05/28/experts-navy-would-spend-billions-to-answer-trumps-call-to-return-carriers-to-steam-catapults quote:Trump fired a rocket at the admirals. Get the Ford working and out to the fleet, as in right away. I bet he’s watching the FFG(X) and Columbia as well. quote:Kudos agreed!! However it is sending a message to the public that thier tax dollars are being abused!! This is the only thing I agree with our POTUS!!
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May 29, 2019 11:43
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orange juche posted:Don't they have yard services in Yokosuka? If they didn't work on it there, they could rotate it to Pearl for a bit and then move it back out to Japan when the yard time is done. There's no real reason to send it back to San Diego that couldn't be handled in Pearl. The yards in hawaii are so bad with cost overruns and rework necessary that the navy rotates ships to San Diego now for major yard work. It's cheaper/more efficient to crew swap a DDG and change homeports for the ship itself than it is to dry dock it in Pearl. The Yoko shipyard is the best shipyard in the fleet, on the other hand.
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Given the facts that the Blue Ridge just came out of a two year plus maintenance period which ran well over 50 million and other than the Mount Whitney, there is literally no other ship left in the Navy that can fulfill that function (or seat so much staff) I highly doubt it. I was on there in 2004 and when BLR went into DSRA, they brought the Coronado over for 7th fleet to use. Now that the Coronado and LaSalle are reefs there aren't any backups either. I'm wondering if the geedunk rumor mills wires got crossed on the Wasp/America swap out.
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The Navy has turned just about any bullshit godawful ergonomic wreck of a space into desk space. I'm sure they can find something else to cause grievous repetitive strain injuries and back problems that isn't the Ridge.
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May 30, 2019 01:04
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Mentioned over in current events, but Very Stable Genius Alert: https://twitter.com/rebeccaballhaus/status/1133882529335980032
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May 30, 2019 01:11
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https://www.facebook.com/345910548831461/posts/2273213116101185/ From MCPON, PRT changes next year with situps out for a plank and rowing machine added for alt cardio. Good changes imo as the guy who does rowing for cardio anyway
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Motherfucker. I can do a billion situps but suck at planks. They run a solid chance of angering a hernia repair I had
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This just in : FTN and gently caress you if you're still in.
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Nick Soapdish posted:https://www.facebook.com/345910548831461/posts/2273213116101185/ I hate sit-ups. Always feel my backbone grinding around. Guess I better start planking.
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Madurai posted:Mentioned over in current events, but Very Stable Genius Alert: Wasn’t the ship named for his dad?
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Ron Jeremy posted:Wasn’t the ship named for his dad? Both his father and grandfather, originally, and rededicated last year to include him as well apparently.
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Madurai posted:Mentioned over in current events, but Very Stable Genius Alert: That is really horrible. And par for the course.
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Madurai posted:Mentioned over in current events, but Very Stable Genius Alert:  Does anyone have experience with or can point me toward the regs governing a spouse staying in my hotel room during an AT or TDY? I looked through the JTR but didn't see anything. I assume it would definitely be prohibited if the room rate was higher for 2 guests vs. 1, but I couldn't locate any specifics. Gray Matter fucked around with this message at 01:59 on May 30, 2019 |
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1133900762709463040
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Gray Matter posted:They gave all personnel not directly participating in the visit the day off and basically told us to stay in your home/the gently caress away from base. 4-day weekend during my AT The official answer is that your AT/TDY is for you to do Navy work, and don't let your spouse being there be an excuse to slack off. That said, it's fairly well encouraged for longer overseas ATs, especially in conjunction with space-a travel. You incur any expenses over and above your single rate, though. If the hotel charges more for two-person occupancy, then you just pay the difference out of pocket (out of your per diem).
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https://twitter.com/chinfo/status/1133918353490403329?s=19 This just keeps getting more dumb
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Nick Soapdish posted:https://www.facebook.com/345910548831461/posts/2273213116101185/ Finally a practical exercise. 
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Nick Soapdish posted:https://twitter.com/chinfo/status/1133918353490403329?s=19 This seems like a really dumb thing to try to hide since documentation is going to be everywhere.
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Gray Matter posted:They gave all personnel not directly participating in the visit the day off and basically told us to stay in your home/the gently caress away from base. 4-day weekend during my AT I've had my wife visit during AT in Washington DC, ADT in Rhode Island, and TDY in Norfolk. Nobody said anything.
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Stultus Maximus posted:I've had my wife visit during AT in Washington DC, ADT in Rhode Island, and TDY in Norfolk. Nobody said anything. I took my wife to Hawaii twice for AT. Command found out and let me off early on a Friday.
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LingcodKilla posted:This seems like a really dumb thing to try to hide since documentation is going to be everywhere. Who are you going to believe, CHINFO or your own lyin’ eyes? eta receipts: https://twitter.com/amanda_m_macias/status/1133939845968080897 ZekeNY fucked around with this message at 13:33 on May 30, 2019 |
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LingcodKilla posted:I took my wife to Hawaii twice for AT. Command found out and let me off early on a Friday. Stultus Maximus posted:I've had my wife visit during AT in Washington DC, ADT in Rhode Island, and TDY in Norfolk. Nobody said anything. How'd you handle the price differential for 1 lodger vs. 2 in DTS? (was there a difference?) Gray Matter fucked around with this message at 14:16 on May 30, 2019 |
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Gray Matter posted:How'd you handle the price differential in for 1 lodger vs. 2 in DTS? (was there a difference?) Didn’t. I just asked my command if my wife could visit me and the universal answer was either her or my girl/boyfriend they don’t care. I suppose in the future I’ll look in DTS but it didn’t occur to me at the time.
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